View Full Version : Pre Season Prediction : 2024 Best and Fairest Top 10
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 01:01 PM
Ok it's the off season. So nothing like putting your creds on the line at this time of year right?
I reckon I can pick the top 10 of the best and fairest, I've collated all the data, I've consulted all the experts, I've had lengthy discussions with Microsoft Co-Pilot, Chat GPT, Google Bard and my dog and (insert montage here) spent many long nights formulating who I think will be the best 10 players for the Dogs in 2024 according to the coaches!
So I'll show you mine, you show me yours WOOFERS....! Pick it apart, who would you remove/include?
So...without further ado.
#1 - Ed Richards. It's time, he polls well and I reckon he will thrive under Pratt. He's reaching peak age and just seems to be improving exponentially each season. His toughness, clean skills, speed and penetrating kicking are eye catching and such as huge asset for us. Press RED FOR ED in 24.
#2 - Marcus Bontempelli. If he doesn't win it he comes second he's just that good and if he isn't up here in the top 2 then he's injured so I can't think about that!
#3 - Liam Jones. Looks primed for a big season and I'd say without the injury last season he's top 2. Again think Pratt will be a re-energising factor and if we have 2 out of our top 3 places being defenders I think we finish top 4.
#4 - Aaron Naughton. I get the feeling Naughty is going to explode one year, and this just might be it. I'm thinking 50+ goals and a ton of other work in the forward half and a really high finish in the b and f.
#5 - Jack Macrae. Jack's back. Well that's what we will be saying in October right? He plays where he is meant to and this guy just gets the job done. He will consistently rack them up and do his job so I expect a big return to form for Jacko.
#6 - Tom Liberatore. Bit low you say? Not sure Tom can continue on forever at the amazing pace he has set, plus with Harmes and maybe Sanders doing a bit more of the inside work I can see Tom, whilst still being insanely brilliant, maybe shouldering less of the load this season just dropping him back a little in the accumulation of votes. He will still be up in the rarefied air though.
#7 - Tim English. Same spot as 2023. I think if the AA year gets 7th, then he may not be a big b and f vote getter. Super important though and if he can repeat his form of 23 we will be right up there in the mix.
#8 - Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Tenth in 2023, I think his improvement has been pretty linear and I expect that to continue in 24. Hopefully a renewed focus on goal-kicking will assist him to rise up the b and f rankings and there would be no surprise to me if he was able to finish top 5.
#9 - Riley Sanders - Yep, I'm getting sucked in to the hype. He looks all class, I think with Baz out he plays most games and if the pre-season match sims are anything to go by he is an eye catching type that will attract votes. It's probably my most outlandish prediction, and means someone very experienced has to miss but I'm going with it!
#10 - Bailey Dale - Another defender! It was between Treloar, Daniel and Dale for the last spot and I've gone Dale due to his ability to slice teams open and create scoring opportunities. With our poor rebound 50 game last season I think it will be a real emphasis for us and this guy is one of the main men in this regard. So he gets the nod for tenth.
Give me your thoughts!
Jasper
05-02-2024, 02:19 PM
#1 Bontempelli
#2 English
#3 Ugle-Hagan
#4 Liberatore
#5 L.Jones
#6 Richards
#7 Treloar
#8 Weightman
#9 Naughton
10# Daniel
Happy Days
05-02-2024, 03:03 PM
It’s Bont and if you pick anyone else you’re lying to yourself.
The Underdog
05-02-2024, 03:05 PM
Ok it's the off season. So nothing like putting your creds on the line at this time of year right?
I reckon I can pick the top 10 of the best and fairest, I've collated all the data, I've consulted all the experts, I've had lengthy discussions with Microsoft Co-Pilot, Chat GPT, Google Bard and my dog and (insert montage here) spent many long nights formulating who I think will be the best 10 players for the Dogs in 2024 according to the coaches!
So I'll show you mine, you show me yours WOOFERS....! Pick it apart, who would you remove/include?
So...without further ado.
#1 - Ed Richards. It's time, he polls well and I reckon he will thrive under Pratt. He's reaching peak age and just seems to be improving exponentially each season. His toughness, clean skills, speed and penetrating kicking are eye catching and such as huge asset for us. Press RED FOR ED in 24.
#2 - Marcus Bontempelli. If he doesn't win it he comes second he's just that good and if he isn't up here in the top 2 then he's injured so I can't think about that!
#3 - Liam Jones. Looks primed for a big season and I'd say without the injury last season he's top 2. Again think Pratt will be a re-energising factor and if we have 2 out of our top 3 places being defenders I think we finish top 4.
#4 - Aaron Naughton. I get the feeling Naughty is going to explode one year, and this just might be it. I'm thinking 50+ goals and a ton of other work in the forward half and a really high finish in the b and f.
#5 - Jack Macrae. Jack's back. Well that's what we will be saying in October right? He plays where he is meant to and this guy just gets the job done. He will consistently rack them up and do his job so I expect a big return to form for Jacko.
#6 - Tom Liberatore. Bit low you say? Not sure Tom can continue on forever at the amazing pace he has set, plus with Harmes and maybe Sanders doing a bit more of the inside work I can see Tom, whilst still being insanely brilliant, maybe shouldering less of the load this season just dropping him back a little in the accumulation of votes. He will still be up in the rarefied air though.
#7 - Tim English. Same spot as 2023. I think if the AA year gets 7th, then he may not be a big b and f vote getter. Super important though and if he can repeat his form of 23 we will be right up there in the mix.
#8 - Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Tenth in 2023, I think his improvement has been pretty linear and I expect that to continue in 24. Hopefully a renewed focus on goal-kicking will assist him to rise up the b and f rankings and there would be no surprise to me if he was able to finish top 5.
#9 - Riley Sanders - Yep, I'm getting sucked in to the hype. He looks all class, I think with Baz out he plays most games and if the pre-season match sims are anything to go by he is an eye catching type that will attract votes. It's probably my most outlandish prediction, and means someone very experienced has to miss but I'm going with it!
#10 - Bailey Dale - Another defender! It was between Treloar, Daniel and Dale for the last spot and I've gone Dale due to his ability to slice teams open and create scoring opportunities. With our poor rebound 50 game last season I think it will be a real emphasis for us and this guy is one of the main men in this regard. So he gets the nod for tenth.
Give me your thoughts!
I was just going to say Ed Richards from 1-10, but yours is probably better.
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 04:23 PM
#1 Bontempelli
#2 English
#3 Ugle-Hagan
#4 Liberatore
#5 L.Jones
#6 Richards
#7 Treloar
#8 Weightman
#9 Naughton
10# Daniel
No Dale - very interesting. Bont can't win it every year can he!!? :)
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 04:24 PM
It’s Bont and if you pick anyone else you’re lying to yourself.
Haha - he's second that means Ed has been sooooo good that he pips Bont by 1 vote due to already having tied up a top 4 spot and Marcus being managed.
EasternWest
05-02-2024, 04:34 PM
It’s Bont and if you pick anyone else you’re lying to yourself.
It's Bont then it's daylight then anyone else.
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 05:25 PM
Ok for the sake of discussion - let's just say who is going to come 2-10 considering Marcus has it already !
Jasper
05-02-2024, 05:28 PM
No Dale - very interesting. Bont can't win it every year can he!!? :)
I've re-looked this over and and to me it's Richards not Dale for the top 10 in terms of defenders. Perhaps Dale for Daniel makes more sense.
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 05:34 PM
I've re-looked this over and and to me it's Richards not Dale for the top 10 in terms of defenders. Perhaps Dale for Daniel makes more sense.
I think your original is fine, Dale wasn't in the greatest form at times last year so it's certainly a possibility.
PR0408
05-02-2024, 09:14 PM
Libba
Bont
Marra(60 goals)
English
Richards
Cody (40 plus goals)
Naughts
Jones
Harmes
JJ
Grantysghost
05-02-2024, 10:37 PM
Libba
Bont
Marra(60 goals)
English
Richards
Cody (40 plus goals)
Naughts
Jones
Harmes
JJ
Marra 60 goals nice!
Cody that's not a bad inclusion, he's primed.
kllay4
06-02-2024, 11:08 AM
1. Bontempelli - wins by a fair margin and Brownlow fancy
2. English
3. Liberatore
4. Richards
5. Sanders
6. Ugle-Hagan
7. Macrae
8. Weightman
9. Naughton
10. Jones
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 12:31 PM
1. Bontempelli - wins by a fair margin and Brownlow fancy
2. English
3. Liberatore
4. Richards
5. Sanders
6. Ugle-Hagan
7. Macrae
8. Weightman
9. Naughton
10. Jones
Like it k4, Sanders in 5th now that would be some first season. He'd be a lock for the rising star. Nice to see Weightman getting a few nominations.
bornadog
06-02-2024, 02:05 PM
1. Bont
2. Richards
3. Libba
4. Naughton
5. Williams
6. Macrae
7. JJ
8. O'Donnell
9. L Jones
10. Daniel
Sedat
06-02-2024, 02:09 PM
Sanders in 5th now that would be some first season.
Naughton finished 4th in his first season as a bottom ager......playing CHB
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 02:32 PM
1. Bont
2. Richards
3. Libba
4. Naughton
5. Williams
6. Macrae
7. JJ
8. O'Donnell
9. L Jones
10. Daniel
Williams that's the first time his name has appeared. I'd love him to get top 5, really want him to realise his potential and play with a real edge.
Go_Dogs
06-02-2024, 04:32 PM
Bont - it’s him
Richards - the general of defence. AA selection
Treloar - an injury free season where his run helps lift us massively
English - backs up with another strong year
Naughton - how did he finish 5th coming second in the Coleman?
Daniel - played everywhere and was in everything
JJ - injury free the running machine shone
Weightman - moved into a forward-midfielder role with aplomb and kicked 35 goals
Libba - slowed down a little, however his inside and defensive work saw him in the votes most weeks
Poulter - emerged as a genuine wing option with his marking, kicking and run forcing him into top 10
Pleather Sole
06-02-2024, 05:08 PM
1. Historic 3 way tie! Bont, Libba, Ed
2. Liam Jones
3. Jamarra
4. Weightman
5. Sanders
6. English
7. Harmes
8. Dale
9. JOD
10. Sir Galahad
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 05:15 PM
1. Historic 3 way tie! Bont, Libba, Ed
2. Liam Jones
3. Jamarra
4. Weightman
5. Sanders
6. English
7. Harmes
8. Dale
9. JOD
10. Sir Galahad
Ah like it! It means you can fit more in xD
Harmes in 7th nice. If Harmes and Sanders do that well it would really improve the team you would think.
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 05:16 PM
Naughton finished 4th in his first season as a bottom ager......playing CHB
Pretty amazing hey.
CHB you say?
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 05:17 PM
Bont - it’s him
Richards - the general of defence. AA selection
Treloar - an injury free season where his run helps lift us massively
English - backs up with another strong year
Naughton - how did he finish 5th coming second in the Coleman?
Daniel - played everywhere and was in everything
JJ - injury free the running machine shone
Weightman - moved into a forward-midfielder role with aplomb and kicked 35 goals
Libba - slowed down a little, however his inside and defensive work saw him in the votes most weeks
Poulter - emerged as a genuine wing option with his marking, kicking and run forcing him into top 10
Poulter makes an appearance not bad GD. He's got some ability.
Treloar third would be some season. He's definitely capable a very eye catching player in full flight. Do you think he will get as many games in the guts this season?
DadBod
06-02-2024, 05:49 PM
1. Bont
2. Naughts
3. Timmy
4. Richards
5. Libba
6. Jones
7. Marra
8. Sanders
9. Daniel
10. Harmes
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 05:58 PM
1. Bont
2. Naughts
3. Timmy
4. Richards
5. Libba
6. Jones
7. Marra
8. Sanders
9. Daniel
10. Harmes
Naughts second that's a massive year from the big man. Sanders and Harmes up there that's great lots of woofers thinking they're going to add a lot which is very exciting. Like it.
Go_Dogs
06-02-2024, 08:02 PM
Poulter makes an appearance not bad GD. He's got some ability.
Treloar third would be some season. He's definitely capable a very eye catching player in full flight. Do you think he will get as many games in the guts this season?
I hope so. Treloar is underrated I feel, hugely important especially with Smith going down. If he has a year good enough to finish that high it means we’ve got some wheels consistently getting it done through the midfield and I see that as one of our biggest weaknesses.
DadBod
06-02-2024, 11:00 PM
Naughts has it in him, busts his arse every game. I think the coaches also like to reward young pups and newbies if the play their role and contribute.
GVGjr
06-02-2024, 11:07 PM
Naughts has it in him, busts his arse every game. I think the coaches also like to reward young pups and newbies if the play their role and contribute.
He has a sensational work ethic and is very dedicated too this training and preparation. If he fixes his set shot goal kicking he will shake the competition around and silence the talk of him being moved to the back line.
FrediKanoute
06-02-2024, 11:12 PM
My top 10;
1) Marcus Bontempeli
2) Ed Richards
3) Tim English
4) Tom Liberatore
5) A Naughton
6) Harmes (can't remember his firstname)
7) L Jones
8) JUH
9) C Daniel
10) R West
Grantysghost
06-02-2024, 11:48 PM
He has a sensational work ethic and is very dedicated too this training and preparation. If he fixes his set shot goal kicking he will shake the competition around and silence the talk of him being moved to the back line.
My top 10;
1) Marcus Bontempeli
2) Ed Richards
3) Tim English
4) Tom Liberatore
5) A Naughton
6) Harmes (can't remember his firstname)
7) L Jones
8) JUH
9) C Daniel
10) R West
West! Love it.
James Harmes xD
Nice. Seems like Harmes might be the hard body people have been after.
FrediKanoute
08-02-2024, 12:44 AM
West! Love it.
James Harmes xD
Nice. Seems like Harmes might be the hard body people have been after.
I think both West and Harmes are guys who if they play enough football will catch the eye. We know what West can do and Harmes has been a role playing performer in a high achieving team.
SquirrelGrip
08-02-2024, 09:07 AM
1. Bont
2. Tim
3. Ed
4. Kernel
5./6. Tie Naughty/Marra
7. Libba
8. Jones
9. Daniel
10. Treloar
Grantysghost
08-02-2024, 09:26 AM
Sanders 4th! Wowee. That would be something. Hearing Bailey Dale gush over him the other day I'm super glad he's at our club.
Prince Imperial
08-02-2024, 10:11 AM
1. Richards
2. Bontempelli
3. Daniel
4. Naughton
5. Weightman
6. Liberatore
7. Treloar
8. Dale
9. Ugle-Hagan
10. English
Grantysghost
08-02-2024, 10:19 AM
1. Richards
2. Bontempelli
3. Daniel
4. Naughton
5. Weightman
6. Liberatore
7. Treloar
8. Dale
9. Ugle-Hagan
10. English
That's a pretty decent stab at it I reckon PI.
SquirrelGrip
08-02-2024, 10:24 AM
For point of comparison, here is the last decade.
2023
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (342
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Tom Liberatore (278)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Ed Richards (193)
4th Caleb Daniel (190)
5th Liam Jones (172)
6th Adam Treloar (165)
7th Tim English (160)
8th Bailey Dale (152)
9th Aaron Naughton (141)
10th Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (128)
2022
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Josh Dunkley (231)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Tom Liberatore (211)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Aaron Naughton (180)
4th Marcus Bontempelli (174)
5th Jackson Macrae (170)
6th Caleb Daniel (158)
7th Ryan Gardner (151)
8th Adam Treloar (150)
9th Bailey Dale (146)
10th Ed Richards (144)
2021
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (353)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Jack Macrae (296)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Tom Liberatore (291)
4th Bailey Dale (251)
5th Caleb Daniel (250)
6th Alex Keath (241)
7th Bailey Smith (216)
8th Aaron Naughton (211)
9th Taylor Duryea (198)
10th Bailey Williams (171)
2020
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Caleb Daniel (205)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (195)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Tom Liberatore (160)
4th Jack Macrae (154)
5th Bailey Williams (121)
6th Alex Keath (118)
7th Bailey Smith (105)
8th Tim English (89)
9th Lachie Hunter (84)
10th Mitch Wallis (83)
2019
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (299)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Josh Dunkley (270)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Jack Macrae (268)
4th Jason Johannisen (174)
5th Caleb Daniel (164)
6th Lachie Hunter (161)
7th Easton Wood (160)
8th Aaron Naughton (154)
9th Sam Lloyd (153)
10th Hayden Crozier (141)
2018
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Lachie Hunter (191)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Jack Macrae (190)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (154)
4th Aaron Naughton (120)
5th Josh Dunkley (110) TIE 5th
5th Caleb Daniel (110) TIE 5th
7th Jason Johannisen (109)
8th Hayden Crozier (98)
9th Toby McLean (91)
10th Bailey Williams (86)
2017
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (185)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Jason Johannisen (184)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Jack Macrae (155)
4th Easton Wood (138)
5th Caleb Daniel (134)
6th Lachie Hunter (125)
7th Matt Suckling (119) TIE 7
7th Zaine Cordy (119) TIE 7
9th Shane Biggs (95)
10th Liam Picken (85)
2016
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (319)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Dale Morris(248
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Lachie Hunter (246)
4th Tom Liberatore (218)
5th Liam Picken (214)
6th Luke Dahlhaus (201)
7th Jackson Macrae (185) TIE 7th
8th Caleb Daniel (185) TIE 7th
9th Matthew Boyd (184)
10th Jason Johannisen (165)
2015
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Easton Wood (268)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Robert Murphy(229)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Marcus Bontempelli (226)
4th Luke Dahlhaus (223)
5th Matthew Boyd (217)
6th Jason Johannisen (198)
7th Jake Stringer (193)
8th Jack Macrae (192)
9th Mitch Wallis (189)
10th Liam Picken (182)
2014
1st (Charlie Sutton Medal) Tom Liberatore (235)
2nd (Doug Hawkins Medal) Jack Macrae (168)
3rd (Gary Dempsey Medal) Ryan Griffen (154)
4th Luke Dahlhaus (138)
5th Robert Murphy (133)
6th Dale Morris (124)
7th Matthew Boyd (118)
8th Stewart Crameri (117)
9th Liam Picken (112)
10th Mitch Wallis (99)
Grantysghost
08-02-2024, 10:46 AM
So many podiums for Jacko.
2018 they should rigged it so it was a tie.
SquirrelGrip
08-02-2024, 10:50 AM
So many podiums for Jacko.
2018 they should rigged it so it was a tie.
What struck me the most is that Caleb Daniel has not missed the Top 10 since his 2nd year. I know he's been All Australian and has won the B&F but he does travel under the radar compared to others.
EasternWest
08-02-2024, 04:21 PM
What struck me the most is that Caleb Daniel has not missed the Top 10 since his 2nd year. I know he's been All Australian and has won the B&F but he does travel under the radar compared to others.
Super footballer and an inspired pick.
Axe Man
08-02-2024, 04:44 PM
What struck me the most is that Caleb Daniel has not missed the Top 10 since his 2nd year. I know he's been All Australian and has won the B&F but he does travel under the radar compared to others.
Like the F-18s in Top Gun 2 he avoids detection so close to the ground.
Grantysghost
08-02-2024, 05:07 PM
Super footballer and an inspired pick.
Pick 46 is criminal really.
Maybe that is why he got the prison tatts.
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