Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn - Community Series 2/03/24

[GVGjr]

While we are playing the Hawks again, I expect the intensity of this game to be increased from last week:

It will be interesting to see which players we send to Tasmania as it might be an strong indicator of who we take into the round 1 encounter with Melbourne.
I'd say O'Donnell won't travel and this might open the door for Khamis.
I also doubt that Dale will make the trip and I can't see Gardner playing at all.
Macrae should make the trip, how we will best use his talents is not so clear.
Duryea seems to more of a 2nds player at the moment and I wonder if this opens to door for Bramble to be given another chance?
The two biggest questions are how we might use both Darcy and Daniel. I think we will try and keep our forward line set-up with Naughton, Marra and Lobb so perhaps Darcy shares the workload with English in the ruck.

Sanders also gets his chance to play in front of his home town.

Who do you think might be part of our planning for this game? What would you like to see us trial?

[bornadog]

AFL Community Series Matches will take on the following format:


Four quarters of 20 mins plus time on (as per AFL Premiership Season)
Squad of 30 players, eight interchange and four Emergencies. Minimum of four players on the Interchange Bench during the match at any time.
No interchange Cap.
Full panel of umpires appointed by the AFL.

[Mantis]

I'd say O'Donnell won't travel and this might open the door for Khamis.

Are you suggesting we play Khamis as our 2nd KPD alongside Jones... surely not?

Would think that Gardner comes in for JOD with Khamis battling with Coffield and Richards as the ''3rd tall''.


Macrae should make the trip, how we will best use his talents is not so clear.

Given he won't be in our main midfield rotation he will either be used off the bench or at HF and then roll up to the midfield.... not keen on the HF option, and I probably prefer Sanders as the 4th mid... assuming that Bont, Treloar & Libba are the main rotation.


Duryea seems to more of a 2nds player at the moment and I wonder if this opens to door for Bramble to be given another chance?

If Dale misses as suggested then Bramble is the next in line in that role.


The two biggest questions are how we might use both Darcy and Daniel. I think we will try and keep our forward line set-up with Naughton, Marra and Lobb so perhaps Darcy shares the workload with English in the ruck.

I'm certainly keen to play all 3 of Lobb, Darcy & English... especially now that Darcy is capable of playing some effective minutes in the ruck.

Our POD could be the fact that we have dominant talls.. might as well play to that strength.

As with you I have no idea how or where we will use Daniel... how we get both Macrae & Daniel to fit into our team and be consistent contributors is one of Bevo's greatest challenges this year.

[Grantysghost]

Where's Keath? Injured?

[bornadog]

I think a few of the young guys will get a run given we can pick 30 players.

Buku, Cleary, Clarke, Poulter, Baker, Bramble will all get a go at some stage throughout the game.

Darcy, Lobb, JUH and Naughton all in but maybe changing at half time so they are not all in at the same time.

As mentioned in above posts, will be interesting to see where Macrae and Daniel are played.

[GVGjr]

Where's Keath? Injured?

I think he will travel to Tas, not sure if he will play though

[GVGjr]

Are you suggesting we play Khamis as our 2nd KPD alongside Jones... surely not?

Would think that Gardner comes in for JOD with Khamis battling with Coffield and Richards as the ''3rd tall''.



When JOD was injured early in the game Gardner was his replacement but I doubt that is an option now with Gardner on very restricted duties this week. It could be Busslinger or Keath who comes in but we might test Khamis and Coffields ability to play on taller players.




Given he won't be in our main midfield rotation he will either be used off the bench or at HF and then roll up to the midfield.... not keen on the HF option, and I probably prefer Sanders as the 4th mid... assuming that Bont, Treloar & Libba are the main rotation.



Tend to agree about Macrae





I'm certainly keen to play all 3 of Lobb, Darcy & English... especially now that Darcy is capable of playing some effective minutes in the ruck.

Our POD could be the fact that we have dominant talls.. might as well play to that strength.

As with you I have no idea how or where we will use Daniel... how we get both Macrae & Daniel to fit into our team and be consistent contributors is one of Bevo's greatest challenges this year.


Massive challenge for the coaches this year.

[doggies ftw]

Are you suggesting we play Khamis as our 2nd KPD alongside Jones... surely not?

Would think that Gardner comes in for JOD with Khamis battling with Coffield and Richards as the ''3rd tall''.



Given he won't be in our main midfield rotation he will either be used off the bench or at HF and then roll up to the midfield.... not keen on the HF option, and I probably prefer Sanders as the 4th mid... assuming that Bont, Treloar & Libba are the main rotation.



If Dale misses as suggested then Bramble is the next in line in that role.



I'm certainly keen to play all 3 of Lobb, Darcy & English... especially now that Darcy is capable of playing some effective minutes in the ruck.

Our POD could be the fact that we have dominant talls.. might as well play to that strength.

As with you I have no idea how or where we will use Daniel... how we get both Macrae & Daniel to fit into our team and be consistent contributors is one of Bevo's greatest challenges this year.

Hopefully Keath gets a game if JOD misses, seems fit now.

I wouldn?t have Bramble as Dales replacement, more JJ or Richard?s if they were to miss IMO - if you?re replacing Dales key distributor role it would have to be Cleary I reckon, Bramble just does not have the foot skills to be one of our main designated kickers.

[josie]

Hopefully Keath gets a game if JOD misses, seems fit now.

I wouldn?t have Bramble as Dales replacement, more JJ or Richard?s if they were to miss IMO - if you?re replacing Dales key distributor role it would have to be Cleary I reckon, Bramble just does not have the foot skills to be one of our main designated kickers.
I?d like to see Cleary given a go. He was pretty good last week.

[GVGjr]

I?d like to see Cleary given a go. He was pretty good last week.

It certainly surprised me how well he performed. He can play on a range of opponents as well.

[Axe Man]

Is it not as simple as Daniel playing in his most familiar backline role if Dale doesn't play?

[Critter]

I reckon we should approach this as a practice match - that is, try a few options. As they once said about the Northern Territory, you'll never never know if you never never go.

B: JJ Jones Coffield
HB: Richards Busslinger Cleary
C: Poulter Libba Baker
HF: Sanders Naughton West
F: Lobb JUH Weightman

R: English Bont Treloar

I/C: Macrae Daniel Williams Harmes Darcy Scott Khamis Clarke

Emerg: Bramble VDM Gallagher McNeil

Now is a good chance to confirm whether or not Cleary & Khamis have improved and whether Busslinger is near AFL standard. Also, is it possible to manage a four-headed monster in a four quarter game?

[doggies ftw]

Is it not as simple as Daniel playing in his most familiar backline role if Dale doesn't play?
Yeah fair that?s probably the solution for a real game, for a praccy though I?d probably rather put the minutes into seeing what Cleary can do in a key role. If Dale was to miss round 1 though definitely Daniel

[lemmon]

I'll be there - the forecast looks like it'll be a perfect night for footy.

[bornadog]

I reckon we should approach this as a practice match - that is, try a few options.

It is a practice match

[Grantysghost]

It is a practice match
Post of the year, no way this will be matched.

[Axe Man]

It is a practice match

To be fair Bevo has often treated the final practice match as a dress rehearsal for round 1 with a close to full strength side and often not fully utilising the extended interchange. It will be interesting to see what approach we take on Saturday.

[GVGjr]

I'm just guessing but we could trial Busslinger and one other but still take close to our best available 23.
How we use, Darcy, Daniel and Macrae will be interesting.

[Critter]

To be fair Bevo has often treated the final practice match as a dress rehearsal for round 1 with a close to full strength side and often not fully utilising the extended interchange. It will be interesting to see what approach we take on Saturday.

Exactly

[Grantysghost]

To be fair Bevo has often treated the final practice match as a dress rehearsal for round 1 with a close to full strength side and often not fully utilising the extended interchange. It will be interesting to see what approach we take on Saturday.
BADs point is pretty undeniable.

[Axe Man]

BADs point is pretty undeniable.

True. He deserves a new title.

https://i.postimg.cc/J7FTkwLS/obvious.gif (https://postimg.cc/7bg1FWbN)

[bornadog]

To be fair Bevo has often treated the final practice match as a dress rehearsal for round 1 with a close to full strength side and often not fully utilising the extended interchange. It will be interesting to see what approach we take on Saturday.

I would like to try something different this year and give more players a go, and use up the full bench

[Mantis]

To be fair Bevo has often treated the final practice match as a dress rehearsal for round 1 with a close to full strength side and often not fully utilising the extended interchange. It will be interesting to see what approach we take on Saturday.

Given we will be playing Melbourne in Rd 1, who will have already had the benefit of playing in Opening round, and Bevo spruiked this will be our most prepared team for Rd 1 in his tenure we have no option than to treat this game very seriously.... last week was for trialing/experimenting, this week should be a rehearsal as stated.

[Grantysghost]

True. He deserves a new title.

https://i.postimg.cc/J7FTkwLS/obvious.gif (https://postimg.cc/7bg1FWbN)

hahaaaaaa second best post of the year.

[Grantysghost]

Given we will be playing Melbourne in Rd 1, who will have already had the benefit of playing in Opening round, and Bevo spruiked this will be our most prepared team for Rd 1 in his tenure we have no option than to treat this game very seriously.... last week was for trialing/experimenting, this week should be a rehearsal as stated.

This make a lot of sense. Melbourne last night were pretty bloody serious. Although they played Schache. He played forward/second ruck. Did his usual not much.

Windsor looks an absolute jet.

[JanLorMill]

Macrae at Footscray not Tassy

[jeemak]

BAD I think some people need to be reminded of The Nets.

[bornadog]

BAD I think some people need to be reminded of The Nets.

Line them up you think :D

[jeemak]

Line them up you think :D

You're experienced enough to handle things.

[bornadog]

What time are the teams out?

[Axe Man]

AFL practice match teams: Western Bulldogs star Caleb Daniel under selection pressure (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-collingwood-star-scott-pendlebury-to-miss-final-preseason-match/news-story/3934025a121e1839a45660599ee3c508)

Could Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge make another shock call at selection ahead of round 1? There was some surprise news out of Whitten Oval this week, reports Sam Landsberger.

Western Bulldogs premiership star and All-Australian Caleb Daniel is understood to have come under shock selection pressure on the verge of the season.

There was a belief this week that the much-loved utility would be axed from the round 1 dress rehearsal against Hawthorn in Tasmania on Saturday night.

But sources have since confirmed that Daniel would travel to Launceston and be named in the squad to take on the Hawks in the pre-season match.

The Bulldogs will announce their team at 5pm on Friday.

Daniel has played some match simulations in the seconds this pre-season, but that is understood to be in part due to the Dogs’ strong core of midfielders.

Daniel, 27, has been a stalwart at Whitten Oval ever since he was drafted in 2014.

The link man with an incredible football IQ has played 85 out of the past 90 games and he has long been one of the club’s most consistent performers.

In 2020 Daniel won the Charles Sutton Medal as the club’s best-and-fairest in the same year he was named in the All-Australian team.

Last year, Daniel placed fourth in the best-and-fairest.

Daniel – who is contracted for a further three seasons – has placed inside the top seven in each of the past eight seasons.

If Daniel started the season on the fringe of selection it would come as a major shock to both supporters as well as some of his teammates.

Daniel’s place in the line-up now looms as a watch entering the home-and-away season.

Coach Luke Beveridge has a history of giving new recruits extended opportunities to make an instant impression.

It is expected both Melbourne recruit James Harmes and pre-season signing Lachie Bramble will be in the team to take on the Hawks in the pre-season clash.

Last year, Rory Lobb played 20 games despite his indifferent form while Jackson Trengove featured in 38 games across his first two seasons at Whitten Oval.

Trengove was secured as a high-priced free agent but was never able to transform the Dogs’ fortunes.

Jack Macrae has been left out of the pre-season squad, but that is purely to manage his minutes when playing for Footscray in a VFL scratch match as the three-time All-Australian recovers from a hamstring injury.

[bornadog]

I still think Daniel's best spot is a back pocket

[Curly5]

He could be axed but he’s gone to Tassie in the squad…

Is this just a beat up? I can’t imagine CD not being in the team. We need his level head and clever decision making. Also in the leadership group.

[ledge]

So the article starts off Daniel in doubt then the next paragraph he is playing.
Then brings up Trengove ?
I’m sorry but this article makes no sense whatsoever , it is also a practice game , if you’re not playing two or three players who are on the fringe or new recruits you arent doing your job.
I have no idea what this article is trying to say.

[Happy Days]

Remember when Bevo didn’t pick Caleb for Round 1 that year we got destroyed by GWS so he could pick Gowers and Honeychurch instead?

Doesn’t strictly apply here but wow that sucked.

[Axe Man]

Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs
Saturday 2 March 2024 • 6:10 PM (AEDT)
University of Tasmania Stadium, Launceston • Palawa
Broadcast: Fox Footy/Kayo

B: Lachie Bramble, Liam Jones, Nick Coffield
HB: Ed Richards, Buku Khamis, Jason Johannisen
C: Bailey Williams, Tom Liberatore, Harvey Gallagher
HF: Lachie McNeil, Rory Lobb, Cody Weightman
F: Rhylee West, Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
FOLL: Tim English, Marcus Bontempelli, Adam Treloar
INT: Taylor Duryea, Laitham Vandermeer, James Harmes, Ryley Sanders, Caleb Daniel, Luke Cleary, Sam Darcy, Oskar Baker

EMG: Caleb Poulter, Anthony Scott, Charlie Clarke, Arty Jones

[GVGjr]

Good to Gallagher on a wing and Bramble in a BP. Khamis gets a chance to show his value being picked at CHB.
Cleary on the bench and I wonder how we will use Darcy and Daniel?

[Grantysghost]

Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs
Saturday 2 March 2024 • 6:10 PM (AEDT)
University of Tasmania Stadium, Launceston • Palawa
Broadcast: Fox Footy/Kayo

B: Lachie Bramble, Liam Jones, Nick Coffield
HB: Ed Richards, Buku Khamis, Jason Johannisen
C: Bailey Williams, Tom Liberatore, Harvey Gallagher
HF: Lachie McNeil, Rory Lobb, Cody Weightman
F: Rhylee West, Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
FOLL: Tim English, Marcus Bontempelli, Adam Treloar
INT: Taylor Duryea, Laitham Vandermeer, James Harmes, Ryley Sanders, Caleb Daniel, Luke Cleary, Sam Darcy, Oskar Baker

EMG: Caleb Poulter, Anthony Scott, Charlie Clarke, Arty Jones

Wonder if that's our Wings for rd 1. Williams and Gallagher? Interesting Poulter didn't make the cut.

Gardner isn't even in the emergencies with JOD injured? Buku as the 2nd tall defender very interesting.

I'm not surprised by the Daniel talk really, if he's not in the backline I don't know if he's got a spot. I'd be swapping him with Bramble.

[GVGjr]

He could be axed but he’s gone to Tassie in the squad…

Is this just a beat up? I can’t imagine CD not being in the team. We need his level head and clever decision making. Also in the leadership group.

It really depends on how much time he gets to determine where he is in the minds of the selectors.

[GVGjr]

Wonder if that's our Wings for rd 1. Williams and Gallagher? Interesting Poulter didn't make the cut.

Gardner isn't even in the emergencies with JOD injured? Buku as the 2nd tall defender very interesting.

I'm not surprised by the Daniel talk really, if he's not in the backline I don't know if he's got a spot. I'd be swapping him with Bramble.

Gards hasn't trained this week GG. He won't play tomorrow either.

[meenies]

Agree with the squad bar Duryea. Would of preferred Charlie in there.
Always seemed to be close between Williams, Baker, and Poulter. Maybe Williams diversity won the spot.

[GVGjr]

Agree with the squad bar Duryea. Would of preferred Charlie in there.
Always seemed to be close between Williams, Baker, and Poulter. Maybe Williams diversity won the spot.

Probably with some doubts on Dale we had to roll the dice with Duryea and Bramble with Cleary as a back up.

[Grantysghost]

Gards hasn't trained this week GG. He won't play tomorrow either.
Ah thanks i wondered what was going on..! What's he done?

[GVGjr]

Ah thanks i wondered what was going on..! What's he done?

I really don't know, he walked laps on Monday with JOD, rode the bike a bit on Wednesday and didn't do much today.

[ledge]

I know this is nothing to do with this game , but I just heard one of the commentators at the Geelong v bombers game call Shannon Neale “scratcher” that bought back memories but they are nothing alike, the original scratcher he was a short, hard at it ranga , quite the opposite of Shannon.
Anyway back to where we were .

[ledge]

I really don't know, he walked laps on Monday with JOD, rode the bike a bit on Wednesday and didn't do much today.

A normal pre season for Gards

[PR0408]

Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs
Saturday 2 March 2024 • 6:10 PM (AEDT)
University of Tasmania Stadium, Launceston • Palawa
Broadcast: Fox Footy/Kayo

B: Lachie Bramble, Liam Jones, Nick Coffield
HB: Ed Richards, Buku Khamis, Jason Johannisen
C: Bailey Williams, Tom Liberatore, Harvey Gallagher
HF: Lachie McNeil, Rory Lobb, Cody Weightman
F: Rhylee West, Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
FOLL: Tim English, Marcus Bontempelli, Adam Treloar
INT: Taylor Duryea, Laitham Vandermeer, James Harmes, Ryley Sanders, Caleb Daniel, Luke Cleary, Sam Darcy, Oskar Baker

EMG: Caleb Poulter, Anthony Scott, Charlie Clarke, Arty Jones

Will all 30 travel over or some left behind for reserves?
Hopefully they all go very keen to see Clarke in the seniors.

[GVGjr]

Will all 30 travel over or some left behind for reserves?
Hopefully they all go very keen to see Clarke in the seniors.

All 30 have to go.

[PR0408]

All 30 have to go.

Ok that?s great!!

[doggies ftw]

All 30 have to go.

Really? Surely we don?t need 4 travelling emgs and a 26 man squad! Would rather they get game time at VFL level

[GVGjr]

Really? Surely we don?t need 4 travelling emgs and a 26 man squad! Would rather they get game time at VFL level

This from the 2nd post in the thread



AFL Community Series Matches will take on the following format:


Four quarters of 20 mins plus time on (as per AFL Premiership Season)
Squad of 30 players, eight interchange and four Emergencies. Minimum of four players on the Interchange Bench during the match at any time. No interchange Cap. Full panel of umpires appointed by the AFL.

Not sure if there is any flexibility in that.

[GVGjr]

Anyone going to the Footscray game tomorrow at midday at the WO?

The light towers were being spruced up today with the mission logo along with some red, white and blue paint.
They were also doing a bit of work on the lawn area behind the goals and the stand was getting the cladding done and might be about 35% completed. It should be all completed by the end of the month inside and out.

[kruder]

Interesting we are down KPD's and Busslinger can't even crack the emergency list. Only early but he looked a long way off it last year and I'm still seriously concerned with his athletic traits which is surprising for a top 10 pick.

Great to see Gags on a wing, he is one I'm not concerned about will be a player.

[bornadog]

I'd say O'Donnell won't travel and this might open the door for Khamis.?

Spot on

[GVGjr]

Interesting we are down KPD's and Busslinger can't even crack the emergency list. Only early but he looked a long way off it last year and I'm still seriously concerned with his athletic traits which is surprising for a top 10 pick.

Great to see Gags on a wing, he is one I'm not concerned about will be a player.

So I suppose the question is if playing a full game at Footscray is better than say half a game in Tas?
I thought we might roll the dice and bank a good news story but so far we are pretty much going with the best performed players.

[GVGjr]

Spot on

I wonder if he gets a highly supervised run against the Hawks in the VFL?

[jeemak]

Remember when Bevo didn?t pick Caleb for Round 1 that year we got destroyed by GWS so he could pick Gowers and Honeychurch instead?

Doesn?t strictly apply here but wow that sucked.

Callum Daniels isn't tall enough to play football.

[bornadog]

I wonder if he gets a highly supervised run against the Hawks in the VFL?
He will need it.

[jeemak]

Interested in seeing how Khamis goes tomorrow. Not sure I trust him to put in the huge minutes usually required from our key defenders.

If he can't it may open up the door for Darcy to get some time at CHB which is where I had him in my round one side. Something about Lade saying "who knows where he'll end up" after last week's game makes me think it's a possibility.

What Lade said:

“Darce has been training as a ruck the whole pre-season. He can obviously play forward too, but we’re just excited that he’s gotten through a full pre-season. Who knows where he will end up.”

With all of Lobb, Naughton and JUH playing forward, and English named as ruck I struggle to see how Darcy gets decent game time playing through that forward/ ruck rotation.

[FrediKanoute]

Interesting we are down KPD's and Busslinger can't even crack the emergency list. Only early but he looked a long way off it last year and I'm still seriously concerned with his athletic traits which is surprising for a top 10 pick.

Great to see Gags on a wing, he is one I'm not concerned about will be a player.

I am concerned. Smells a lot like Dad.....

[Bulldog Joe]

I know this is nothing to do with this game , but I just heard one of the commentators at the Geelong v bombers game call Shannon Neale ?scratcher? that bought back memories but they are nothing alike, the original scratcher he was a short, hard at it ranga , quite the opposite of Shannon.
Anyway back to where we were .

An affront to all the Tasmanian Spud Farmers.

Robert "Scratcher" Neal was from Wynyard and his family were a long line of spud farmers.

His Cousin John "Scratcher" Neal was part of the 1967 Tasmanian Goal Post State Final at Burnie's West Park.

As a further distraction John was a rover forward pocket seen by some locals as the model for what Kevin Bartlett became at Richmond.

When Kevin Bartlett once acknowledged that he made the mistake of handballing near goal, it was said that John "Scratcher" Neal never made such a mistake.

[mjp]

An affront to all the Tasmanian Spud Farmers.

Robert "Scratcher" Neal was from Wynyard and his family were a long line of spud farmers.

His Cousin John "Scratcher" Neal was part of the 1967 Tasmanian Goal Post State Final at Burnie's West Park.

As a further distraction John was a rover forward pocket seen by some locals as the model for what Kevin Bartlett became at Richmond.

When Kevin Bartlett once acknowledged that he made the mistake of handballing near goal, it was said that John "Scratcher" Neal never made such a mistake.

Umm - Shannon Neale grew up two streets around from me.

Lovely family. NOT a farmer.

[doggies ftw]

This from the 2nd post in the thread



AFL Community Series Matches will take on the following format:


Four quarters of 20 mins plus time on (as per AFL Premiership Season)
Squad of 30 players, eight interchange and four Emergencies. Minimum of four players on the Interchange Bench during the match at any time. No interchange Cap. Full panel of umpires appointed by the AFL.

Not sure if there is any flexibility in that.

Thanks, so if it?s minimum of 4 on the bench, ie you don?t need more than that hopefully it means we don?t take any emgs and if you lose one pregame you just go to ie 7 on the bench. Anyway doesn?t matter just would like those guys to get VFL game time.

Can?t make it down today unfortunately but keen to hear any reports if anyone makes the trek!!

[Bulldog Joe]

Umm - Shannon Neale grew up two streets around from me.

Lovely family. NOT a farmer.

Which just shows he should not usurp the "Scratcher" nickname.

[ledge]

Which just shows he should not usurp the "Scratcher" nickname.

Watching the old Geelong version of “scratcher” I always thought it was because he wasn’t a gifted footballer but scratched his way to making it.

[Bulldog Joe]

Watching the old Geelong version of “scratcher” I always thought it was because he wasn’t a gifted footballer but scratched his way to making it.

Robert Neal was always a talent. Played senior NWFU (local league that also produced Baldock) from about 15.

Scratcher was always the family nickname.

[ledge]

Robert Neal was always a talent. Played senior NWFU (local league that also produced Baldock) from about 15.

Scratcher was always the family nickname.

Don’t get me wrong I always thought he was a good player .
More a hard working player than a naturally gifted.
We have those players that seem to do it so easy like the Abletts then you have the players like Schmmelbusch who did everything to make it.
He always came across as a Schimmelbusch type.

[Grantysghost]

Bevo before game:

Sanders most ready draftee hes seen at dogs
Some names we are used to might miss
Darcy needs to strengthen.

[Grantysghost]

Cam McKenzie : suffer Aints

Vandermeer urgh

[Mofra]

Gaggs on a wing. Interesting to see

[G-Mo77]

Wasn't Darcy named in the starting 22?

[Testekill]

Bevo before game:

Sanders most ready draftee hes seen at dogs
Some names we are used to might miss
Darcy needs to strengthen.

This is genuinely Darcy's first full preseason so not shocked that we are preferring Lobb as the third tall, Darcy is only going to get better from playing full games in the VFL as the main man.

[Mofra]

Marra looks very very different this year. In a good way

[chef]

Marra looks very very different this year. In a good way

Hes going to have a huge year.

[Mofra]

Handball club is dead. We are moving it far more direct.

[Grantysghost]

McNeil's goal

[Testekill]

Handball club is dead. We are moving it far more direct.

Thank god, opponents were so happy to sit off of us and let us do circlework with handballs.

[jazzadogs]

Are the umpires whistles echoing or is it an issue with my stream?

[Testekill]

Harmes putting on a good bit of pressure out there.

[Grantysghost]

Going super quick and direct

[Mofra]

Coffield is such a good pick up for us. Had some really good one on one wins already

[Grantysghost]

Is LVDM in the backline

[Testekill]

Need to work on our efficiency inside 50 but you can really tell the changes to our gameplan by how we're not time wasting.

[jazzadogs]

Good to see the commentators still refuse to call it when a horrible free kick gets paid

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Coffield and Harmes look like being very good pickups

Still concerned about our ability to convert and how we then cough up score, but we do look sharp early

[bornadog]

Missing some easy goals

[Testekill]

Good to see the commentators still refuse to call it when a horrible free kick gets paid

The free kick was there but we'd have heard everyone whinging about it if a Bulldog put as much mayo on it as Lewis did.

[jazzadogs]

Missing some easy goals

#DawgsFooty

[ratsmac]

How bad is our goal kicking right now. Cmon boys.

[G-Mo77]

I hope Brad Johnson is watching this goal kicking closely. The way they held the ball on those set shots was awful. I knew both were going to miss just by looking at the way it was held.

[Grantysghost]

Naughton kicks for goal like a defender.

[bornadog]

If Buku wants a game in the firsts, you do/t defend like that with a shit pass

[angelopetraglia]

Some good signs in ground set up and game plan, but a very similar result.

Dominating play, equal goals.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Just undoes all your good play if you can't convert. It's a big issue for us.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Khamis looking good

[G-Mo77]

If Buku wants a game in the firsts, you do/t defend like that with a shit pass

Done everything right up until that point.

[Grantysghost]

Pressure has been very very good.

Conversion poor but expect that early.

I think Lobb has been lively.

[G-Mo77]

Happy with that. If you just don't look at the scores and goal kicking everything looks good. Tackling and pressure looks quite good, dropped off a little but it's there and it looks to have improved. Defence all over the ground is solid which is making out back 6's jobs a lot easier. They're good signs. The goal kicking is an issue and we've got to fix it. It's deflating that all that work is not getting on the scoreboard.

[ledge]

Sanders , JUH and Lobb been impressive

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Not too worried about the skill error by Khamis, that's what he typically does well. Impressed by his positioning and competitiveness so far after a good outing last week too.

[ledge]

And Jones has been pretty awesome

[JanLorMill]

To me Trealor looks disinterested. Coffield jones and khamis look good but the hawks tall forward probably iffy. Kicking for goal is poor.

[chef]

Mcneil needs to nail those.

[JanLorMill]

McNeil thats the worst miss so far

[GVGjr]

Mcneil needs to nail those.
That's the biggest knock on him. Just misses too many easy goals.

[Grantysghost]

Is Weightman playing?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

We do seem to lack some killer instinct. But it is a practice match.

[Grantysghost]

Mcneil needs to nail those.
It was a goal for 90 percent of the way.

[Testekill]

Duryea is looking old out there.

[Grantysghost]

Urgh Libba! He usually nails those.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Is Weightman playing?

Yep. He is

[GVGjr]

Weightman further up the ground than normal

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Khamis has absolutely owned Chol up until this point.

[Testekill]

Khamis has absolutely owned Chol up until this point.

Really shows that a player like Chol really only needs a player that can stop him getting a free run up, Khamis is giving up a significant amount of height to him.

[Grantysghost]

Looks like Libba forward and Weightman in the guts.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Very swirly out there apparently

[The Underdog]

That's the biggest knock on him. Just misses too many easy goals.

That was a goal at Marvel.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

That was a goal at Marvel.

There's a wind blowing left to right and it screwed him. That last shot he tried to adjust and the wind wasn't there.

[bulldogtragic]

McNeil…

4 shots to 12.

FMD

[jeemak]

I'm sick of this bullshit already. A complete arsehole goal kicking effort.

[Topdog]

Where can we watch the game? (Please dont say only Kayo)

[Grantysghost]

Lets get this shit kicking out of the way now :cool:

[jeemak]

How we can be down in this game is ****ing amazing. Unbelievable.

[GVGjr]

I hope the commentators take Brad Johnson to task. We have missed way too many

[bulldogtragic]

5 to 12 and we are behind!

[The Bulldogs Bite]

It's not good enough.

2.10 is pathetic, preseason or not

[bulldogsthru&thru]

The space in the opposing 50 is still a worry.

[Grantysghost]

Gee our defence X(

[ratsmac]

Typical dogs game atm. We have 12 goes at it for 2 goals. Hawks 5 shots for 4 goals.

[JanLorMill]

Has anything changed?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Those two efforts on goal are exactly why I don't want McNeil anywhere near the 22.

[Mofra]

There's a wind blowing left to right and it screwed him. That last shot he tried to adjust and the wind wasn't there.
Ditto Bont. The wind is inconsistent. We still haven't adjusted by keeping the ball a little lower though

[jeemak]

I hope the commentators take Brad Johnson to task. We have missed way too many

I would love the players to be held accountable, rather than a part time goal kicking coach.

[ledge]

Typical dogs game atm. We have 12 goes at it for 2 goals. Hawks 5 shots for 4 goals.

Same old same old against the hawks in Tassie

[lemmon]

From the ground - Weightman is spending a lot of time on-ball this quarter. Feels like they want to get the ball in his hands. Sanders is very much playing the Bazz role as the high half-forward that pushes up to the contest. I don't think there's a huge change in how we go inside 50 this year, it's very much 'get it in long and let the big men fly'.

[Grantysghost]

Those two efforts on goal are exactly why I don't want McNeil anywhere near the 22.
Maaaate. Everyone has missed you pick out one guy.

[jazzadogs]

McNeil thats the worst miss so far

Thought it was actually a really nice set shot by his standards. Drifted really late with the wind.

[hujsh]

Has anything changed?

McNeil is getting more shots at goal.

[The Underdog]

Good to see the game day thread in mid season form already.

[bulldogtragic]

So 2023 all over again?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

The difference being this is what McNeil does every time. Wastes the few opportunities he gets GG

Shouldn't be on a list.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Good to see the game day thread in mid season form already.

Yeah I don't care today. But I get the frustration given what we're seeing is the same problems rearing their ugly head.

[Topdog]

Lots of blaming the wind but 1 team is 5 goals 2 and the other is 2 goals 10. Are they playing at different grounds?

[LostDog]

Yep another long year

[lemmon]

The difference being this is what McNeil does every time. Wastes the few opportunities he gets GG

Shouldn't be on a list.

I reckon he's been our best small forward on the day, to be fair

[JanLorMill]

Chol beating English in ruck contests

[ledge]

And they open us up so easily on the rebound . 2023 in repeat

[Grantysghost]

The difference being this is what McNeil does every time. Wastes the few opportunities he gets GG

Shouldn't be on a list.
He nearly wasnt :cool:

Fair enough i think a bit harsh.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Lots of blaming the wind but 1 team is 5 goals 2 and the other is 2 goals 10. Are they playing at different grounds?

No excuses. But we have to accept the fact our players just suck at goal kicking.

[lemmon]

That was all class from Marra. Not sure how he even spotted Bailey Williams there

[hujsh]

Chol beating English in ruck contests

What % of his hit outs are to advantage though?

[bulldogtragic]

Williams now?

[jeemak]

Why should we pay to watch these pricks again? This genuinely turns me off the game.

[chef]

2 11. Seems not much has changed.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Oh God Williams that one is unacceptable.

[hujsh]

Can't really blame that Williams miss on the wind can we?

[bulldogtragic]

How long did Bevo take to apologise and bring in a new game plan last year, two weeks. Maybe start now.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Hawthorn are towelling us up on the run.

It's the exact same as it has been the last few years with our inability to defend on spread.

[JanLorMill]

Our forward line? Is it personal, system or execution?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

What Ginnivan is doing to us is concerning. Our defence is vulnerable to lethal forwards.

[Grantysghost]

Watson seems like a little douche bag.

Postives : coffield isnt injured.

[LostDog]

Nothings changed, don't care if it's a community series.

[Topdog]

No excuses. But we have to accept the fact our players just suck at goal kicking.

You may accept it, I certainly do not.

[ratsmac]

The best way to stop the Hawks run of goals right now is to just kick straight

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Hawthorn are towelling us up on the run.

It's the exact same as it has been the last few years with our inability to defend on spread.

Yeah this right here is the biggest worry.

[hujsh]

Hey Khamis nice grab. And if Vanders can do that more often then welcome to the best 22

[Grantysghost]

Vanders has good intent.

[ledge]

We need to approach the AFL about points being worth 3

[LostDog]

Kellie Underwoods commentating is making this so much worse,

[Topdog]

The best way to stop the Hawks run of goals right now is to just kick straight

we are only 10 scoring shots behind

[hujsh]

Kellie Underwoods commentating is making this so much worse,

As opposed to all those other great commentators we have?

[lemmon]

Hawthorn are towelling us up on the run.

It's the exact same as it has been the last few years with our inability to defend on spread.

Spot on. We press right up to our forward 50, they'll get it through the back of the zone and it's off to the races.

The wind is also pretty minimal at ground level to be honest. It's not Marvel, but it's not much more than a breeze

[Mofra]

Lazy kick by Bont

[bulldogsthru&thru]

No doubt we're struggling to respond to the hawks effort. We seem a bit rattled and have lost our structure.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

As opposed to all those other great commentators we have?

It's easier to target the female ones.

[JanLorMill]

What % of his hit outs are to advantage though?
The one I saw was in our forwards then a chain to them for shot

[ledge]

No doubt we're struggling to respond to the hawks effort. We seem a bit rattled and have lost our structure.

We have a structure ?

[LostDog]

Nope she's crap, straight up

[bulldogsthru&thru]

We have a structure ?

We did. We started well. This 2nd quarter has been diabolical.

[ledge]

Our structure is go forward then let the hawks run out and kick goals.

[G-Mo77]

This is so disappointing. We've dropped off everywhere. Looks like same old Dogs to me.

Johnno under pressure already? Lol

[bulldogtragic]

What is VDM doing on a list?

[jeemak]

This is so sickening. They still haven't had as many scoring shots as us and are up by 17 points.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Nope she's crap, straight up

The point was they're all crap.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

This is everything I didn't want to see. Everything.

[LostDog]

It's easier to target the female ones.

Need a flag mate want to start marching

[bulldogtragic]

Gold Coast thinking about our first rounder right now.

[GVGjr]

That was all class from Marra. Not sure how he even spotted Bailey Williams there

Great instincts

[jeemak]

What a load of shit.

[bulldogtragic]

What a load of shit.

Like nothing has changed…

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Oof we're still frustrating to watch.

[JanLorMill]

That last trealor shot summed up that quarter. Horrible

[Grantysghost]

That's ****ing abhorrent

Bloody Skinner reserve

[jazzadogs]

That last kick from Treloar summarised the quarter.

[angelopetraglia]

Deja vu

[Topdog]

oh boy im glad im not watching

[Testekill]

3 goals down but that is an insurmountable lead with how badly we're doing in the forward 50.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Not pretty at all. Like nothing has changed.

[Mofra]

The mental demons are still there.

Going to need to adjust significantly for the second half.

[bornadog]

That's ****ing abhorrent

Bloody Skinner reserve


GG back :D

[chef]

We dont look very fit.

[jazzadogs]

At least we're lowering our expectations before round one. It will make the dees spanking us hurt less.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I'd hate to see this joint if it was round 1.

[bornadog]

Did we practise a new gameplan from when we reach the F50? We move the ball quickly from the backline, but when we get close to 50, we do the same old thing and just bang it high in the air, expecting the big blokes to mark it

[bornadog]

We dont look very fit.

Practice matches, always look like that to me.

[Bullies]

What is VDM doing on a list? He is as bad as ever. He is undisciplined and basically has no idea. I have no idea as to how he gets a game.

[josie]

Deja vu

Let?s see what adjustments are made after half time. Johnno must be wondering if his coaching is making much difference. Marra has only missed by a smidge so hopefully longer term it makes us more accurate.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Well it's exactly everything that we hate about this team.

Unacceptable missed goals, which sparks the opposition who start converting, which ignites dropped heads and decreased effort, translating into opposition walking the ball from their D50 to F50. We suddenly look slow, outnumbered, disorganised, and then to make it worse whenever we win the ball we start giving it straight back with poor ball use.

It's preseason but FFS that's horrifically bad.

[angelopetraglia]

Dominante inside 50s, shots and general play. Miss multiple easy shots. Start to make the easy look difficult. The opposition get a sniff, they lift and kick goals from the boundary to rub our noses in it for missing sitters.

Our confidence drops. Opposition start to run harder and spread. Now we are on the back foot trying to get back into the game.

Where have we seen this before?

[angelopetraglia]

Mitchel. ?We should have been well behind at quarter time, they didn?t take their chances?

As he smiles, knowing it?s our DNA.

[ledge]

Well I do not see any change from last year at all.
I will say JUH is the only one presenting up forward but he has 4 blokes on him why aren’t we kicking to the other forwards if this is the case ?
I’m disgusted in how easy they run out so easily.
This is the same as it’s always been in Tassie .
We do all the hard work then they run off to easy open goals.

[The Underdog]

I'd hate to see this joint if it was round 1.

Only 15 days to wait.

[ratsmac]

How do you microwave a digital membership?

Nah I'd never do that but gee we can look good and bad both at the same time. This is a very 2023 type Bulldogs game so far. Thank goodness it's only a practice match

[Scorlibo]

Feels almost blasphemous to say but I've been pretty unimpressed with the Bont! Lots of fumbles, falling over, has had about five looks at the goals for two behinds.

Jamarra has been brilliant, have liked Khamis' game so far and I like that McNeil has been getting involved.

First quarter setup behind the ball proved effective, hope we can get back to denying them exits from our forward half. Some better kicking at goal might help to provide motivation!

[bulldogtragic]

He is as bad as ever. He is undisciplined and basically has no idea. I have no idea as to how he gets a game.

Two seasons ahead of us. He?s a bloody liability.

[Bullies]

We still get opened up when sides run forward in numbers. We have no idea how to fill the gaps. We don't man up and look very slow.

[jazzadogs]

We dont look very fit.

Like we're running in mud.

[MrMahatma]

We’ll be the best prepared round 1 team in years.
Not the best prepare preseason match team in years.

It’s fine.

It’s all fine.

Stop the match now. No injuries. Move on.

[Mavericks]

Mitchell is a very good coach in the box. He made adjustments for the 2nd quarter, moved the ball quickly and reep the benefits.

does anyone know who is in the box and who is on the ground. Was hoping Bevo was going to be a Hinkley this year and let someone else in the box.

Hopefully we make adjustment and get back on top. Yes we dominated the first and kicked poorly but they easily won the quarter.

That second quarter was a big red flag.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

We’ll be the best prepared round 1 team in years.
Not the best prepare preseason match team in years.

It’s fine.

It’s all fine.

Stop the match now. No injuries. Move on.

They could be haunting comments if Melbourne touch us up again.

[Rocket Science]

Same as it ever was ...

https://i.ibb.co/9H02wRs/Screen-Shot-2024-03-02-at-7-23-57-pm.png (https://ibb.co/Swg0QqR)

[Mofra]

Feels almost blasphemous to say but I've been pretty unimpressed with the Bont! Lots of fumbles, falling over, has had about five looks at the goals for two behinds.

Jamarra has been brilliant, have liked Khamis' game so far and I like that McNeil has been getting involved.

First quarter setup behind the ball proved effective, hope we can get back to denying them exits from our forward half. Some better kicking at goal might help to provide motivation!
I agree - Bont had some poor kicks that quarter.
Libba gives his all.
English drops his head when beaten.
McNeill and West give it all
Buku has done well, ditto Coffield.

I want us to rotate through the centre harder. Let more players take CBAs.

[Grantysghost]

Same as it ever was ...

https://i.ibb.co/9H02wRs/Screen-Shot-2024-03-02-at-7-23-57-pm.png (https://ibb.co/Swg0QqR)
Ahahahaaaa

[Grantysghost]

Like we're running in mud.
I think we are a slow side in general and the game has has gone quick with stand etc.

[Testekill]

Bont and English have been pretty poor today, English very timid and Bont very fumbly.

Lobb hasn't offered very much, Naughton has two guys on him at all times when we kick it to him. Jamarra is the only forward that looks dangerous but finishing is poor.

Harmes has looked good as has Coffield. Richards and Jones are holding down defence as per usual and Khamis has won his matchup against Chol. West is showing effort but it's not working out for him today.

Vandermeer has shown intent but has been bad. Bramble unsighted, Gallagher not done much. McNeil has been getting into good positions but can't finish it although the shot from 40 out looked like a certain goal until the wind caught it. Weightman not done much either, Treloar looks a little rusty but he's not getting the chance to run.


Would replace Duryea with Cleary and bring on Daniel for VDM probably.

[angelopetraglia]

I think we are a slow side in general and the game has has gone quick with stand etc.

Yes. That?s why we persist with Vanda.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

With respect to Doc who I've been a fan of, in no way should he be in consideration for round one and I'm a little annoyed we didn't back Cleary in today in front of him.

[G-Mo77]

We already know this but when you look at a guy like Ginivan in front of goal he nails them, might have a small amount of touches but is damaging. No shot on McNeil as I think he's been quite good in the preseason but we're just throwing him there hoping he can do something similar. It's been a problem for as long as I want to remember and will continue that way.

[Testekill]

With respect to Doc who I've been a fan of, in no way should he be in consideration for round one and I'm a little annoyed we didn't back Cleary in today in front of him.

Yeah Doc has been a great servant at the club but last year it was pretty clear that he had gone on a year too long and he's looking older today. We really should have had Cleary start and then bring Duryea on later if there was an injury or Cleary wasn't playing well.

[DOG GOD]

I?ve watched the first half and turned it off. Gunna be a LONG year.

[Mofra]

We already know this but when you look at a guy like Ginivan in front of goal he nails them, might have a small amount of touches but is damaging. No shot on McNeil as I think he's been quite good in the preseason but we're just throwing him there hoping he can do something similar. It's been a problem for as long as I want to remember and will continue that way.
Even Ginnivan went 1.2 from set shots that quarter

[G-Mo77]

Even Ginnivan went 1.2 from set shots that quarter

Has as many goals as our entire club.

[Grantysghost]

Cant miss from the goal square!

[lemmon]

Gallagher having a few nice moments to start this term. Great 1 on 1 wing on the wing

[Twodogs]

Does anyone know why we played Hawthorn twice in the preseason?

[Grantysghost]

Does anyone know why we played Hawthorn twice in the preseason?
Apparently everyone else was taken.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

As bad as Marras shot was then, McNeil was in a better position as a right footer and gave it away. Dumb

[JanLorMill]

Khamis is ok but not the type of player our backline needs

[Mofra]

English having a mare.
Richards working into the game nicely.

[lemmon]

That hit from Caleb to Libba is something we've been missing all night. Opened up the ground

[Mofra]

Marra 3 goals 2 behinds (and one miss), although one behind was a long shot that only just missed.
Play the kid deep! He's our only goal threat.

[G-Mo77]

That was Caleb Daniel's goal right there.

[bornadog]

I really am not worried about the scoreboard, but rather the gameplan and how we execute it.

[Grantysghost]

McNeil bog.

[bulldogtragic]

That was quick.

[bornadog]

The attack for the West goal, is what we want to see. Move the ball quickly and not have a congested forward 50 like in the past.

[Grantysghost]

That's the go run from defence! Nice from Bramble.

[Mofra]

The small doubt about West being in the Round 1 team has just been put to bed. Well done Rhylee

[G-Mo77]

What was the free to Williams for?

[Testekill]

The attack for the West goal, is what we want to see. Move the ball quickly and not have a congested forward 50 like in the past.

Also have the small forwards not getting sucked into the contest.