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Grantysghost
15-03-2024, 07:25 PM
The key question for me on Macrae is would he have been in this predicatment if had an injury free preperation. I can see why they would want to ease him back when the last part of this preparation has been interrupted with a leg injury which impacts his ability to cover the ground which they probably already have a question mark over.

Is that the only reason or were they thinking like this before he was injured?
The cynic in me thinks the injury may have helped avoid this being purely a decision on his place in the side being made redundant by Sanders and Harmes.

jDogs
15-03-2024, 07:35 PM
A couple of questions for all WOOFers

Does Macrae's non selection sit well you?
What about if Daniel is named as the sub?


Doesn't sit well with me at all. I am also of the thinking that not being ready because of his hamstring is just convenient timing.
Being dropped from the leadership group should have set off alarm bells. I hope he can prove them wrong and find his way in sooner rather than later.

bornadog
15-03-2024, 08:28 PM
A couple of questions for all WOOFers

Does Macrae's non selection sit well you?
What about if Daniel is named as the sub?

I'll be interested in your thoughts

Bevo said we will be the fittest we have ever been going into round one. That means no under done players, so I am happy with Macrea out, and I think Daniel will play most of the game.

The Bulldogs Bite
15-03-2024, 08:56 PM
A couple of questions for all WOOFers

Does Macrae's non selection sit well you?
What about if Daniel is named as the sub?

I'll be interested in your thoughts

Not really.

Macrae has been ordinary, in my opinion, for the better part of 2 years. Signing him to 5 years was dumb at the time and it looks worse now. Hope he can turn it around but the reality is he's very one dimensional and his defensive appetite has dropped right away, paving the way for others to overtake him.

Daniel surprises me a little, but has he really been THAT great? I've thought his form hasn't been as strong as it was in 2021 either. I do think we probably need to settle him in a position, but where that is, I dont know.

I don't like the idea of playing both VDM and McNeil. Neither hit the scoreboard often, neither create chances for others often. They're obviously there for pressure but I'm unconvinced on their consistency in this area too.

Grantysghost
15-03-2024, 08:58 PM
Bevo said we will be the fittest we have ever been going into round one. That means no under done players, so I am happy with Macrea out, and I think Daniel will play most of the game.
They both played full games in the vfl? Isnt that fit?

jeemak
15-03-2024, 09:01 PM
A couple of questions for all WOOFers

Does Macrae's non selection sit well you?
What about if Daniel is named as the sub?

I'll be interested in your thoughts

I'm OK with Macrae missing if it's due to injury and a need to build him up after interrupting the pointy end of preseason. Otherwise I think he's too classy to not play and it's up to the coaching department to use his attributes. At the same time Jack needs to be accountable for his year last year inasmuch as he didn't work hard enough at times. He'll be back in the side soon enough.

Daniel is too good not to be playing and unless he's been taking the piss over preseason I don't see how we're radically shaking things up to the extent that our fourth highest vote getter in the Sutton Medal for 2024 is now suddenly irrelevant.

For what it's worth I think VDM will be named as the sub.

GVGjr
15-03-2024, 09:27 PM
I'm OK with Macrae missing if it's due to injury and a need to build him up after interrupting the pointy end of preseason. Otherwise I think he's too classy to not play and it's up to the coaching department to use his attributes. At the same time Jack needs to be accountable for his year last year inasmuch as he didn't work hard enough at times. He'll be back in the side soon enough.

Daniel is too good not to be playing and unless he's been taking the piss over preseason I don't see how we're radically shaking things up to the extent that our fourth highest vote getter in the Sutton Medal for 2024 is now suddenly irrelevant.

For what it's worth I think VDM will be named as the sub.

That's the interesting part, he got through the North game okay even with the heat aspect and the Hawks one before that so he should be fit enough. He's also got a lot of the footy.
You would have to think that he is more than fit enough to play particularly if it was from off the bench.

Nuggety Back Pocket
15-03-2024, 10:52 PM
A couple of questions for all WOOFers

Does Macrae's non selection sit well you?
What about if Daniel is named as the sub?

I'll be interested in your thoughts

Very strange selections to leave out two champions of the Club in Macrae and Daniel
Apart from Sanders and Harmes and possibly
Coffield, neither Bramble and Gallagher have shown enough to justify selection.

Mavericks
15-03-2024, 10:53 PM
I have concerns. There is some history with senior players finding it tougher than other less valuable and effective players In getting games. Wallis and ROughie we prime examples. Looks like Roughy preferred BMac and gives him a lot of credit for the flag.

VDM is the one for me. I love his endeavour and his agression but his turnovers costs us games. I cannot understand how he gets gifted games without banging down the wall. Yes he has pace but has limited spacious awareness, is a poor decision maker and undisciplined.

I would prefer Macrae any day of the week and feel he has enough credits in the bank to at least be the sub.

Grantysghost
15-03-2024, 10:55 PM
Very strange selections to leave out two champions of the Club in Macrae and Daniel
Apart from Sanders and Harmes and possibly
Coffield, neither Bramble and Gallagher have shown enough to justify selection.
I think one word sums up the thinking. Speed.

The game is so fast now, Jacko and Caleb are being made redundant.

westbulldog
15-03-2024, 11:31 PM
I can't believe Jack Macrae, a three time All-Australian, being overlooked for list cloggers imo Vandermeer and McNeill, Bramble too although he a is a backman and unproven. Unless Macrae is injured / not fully fit his non-selection is absurd.

MrMahatma
15-03-2024, 11:46 PM
I can't believe Jack Macrae, a three time All-Australian, being overlooked for list cloggers imo Vandermeer and McNeill, Bramble too although he a is a backman and unproven. Unless Macrae is injured / not fully fit his non-selection is absurd.

Which one of VDM, McNeil or Bramble are playing inside mid this week? Which is where Jack played his AA seasons.

doggies ftw
16-03-2024, 08:50 AM
Did I read somewhere there?s a VFL praccy on this weekend?

Grantysghost
16-03-2024, 10:08 AM
Did I read somewhere there?s a VFL praccy on this weekend?
I believe we play Werribee at Whitten today at 1pm

Critter
16-03-2024, 10:30 AM
Happily, it's only 2:32pm!

Probably too obtuse. 4:59 was 1 minute before final teams were announced at 5:00, when the exact structure of our backline became apparent

Danjul
16-03-2024, 11:43 AM
I think one word sums up the thinking. Speed.

The game is so fast now, Jacko and Caleb are being made redundant.
In round 20 last season we played GWS who soon after got beaten in the preliminary final by 1 point by the eventual premiers.

Macrae, Libba, Treloar all had over 30 possessions. At half time we had 16 scoring shots to less than half that.

In the end we lost because Greene kicked 5 goals and our forwards supplied very little- Naughton 1, Weightman 1, West 1. Most of our goals came from the midfielders and backline.

The end result wasn?t due to a lack of speed, just a lack of smarts. And not in the middle. Actually a hundred metres from there. That?s what I am hoping to see has been addressed tomorrow.

westbulldog
16-03-2024, 03:01 PM
Which one of VDM, McNeil or Bramble are playing inside mid this week? Which is where Jack played his AA seasons.

So you and the "likes" prefer VDM and McNeill to Macrae, so be it, that's your opinion, not shared in a million light years by me :). And in answer to your question I have no idea "Which one of VDM, McNeil or Bramble are playing inside mid this week? " Do you ? :)

chef
16-03-2024, 03:06 PM
Lets give them a chance this season before getting upset they have 'earned' a game through their efforts over the preseason.

Bullies
16-03-2024, 04:15 PM
I have concerns. There is some history with senior players finding it tougher than other less valuable and effective players In getting games. Wallis and ROughie we prime examples. Looks like Roughy preferred BMac and gives him a lot of credit for the flag.

VDM is the one for me. I love his endeavour and his agression but his turnovers costs us games. I cannot understand how he gets gifted games without banging down the wall. Yes he has pace but has limited spacious awareness, is a poor decision maker and undisciplined.

I would prefer Macrae any day of the week and feel he has enough credits in the bank to at least be the sub. A comment was made on a show the other day that your days are numbered with Bevo once he prefers his "project" players over his proven players. Macrae played with injured ribs the majority of last year. He makes up for his lack of pace with his ability of knowing where the ball is going to go. He is also elite with his skills. Still have no idea what they see in Bramble, he looked ordinary at the Hawks game.

bornadog
16-03-2024, 04:51 PM
Cleary will replace JOD as emergency

Mofra
17-03-2024, 09:19 AM
A comment was made on a show the other day that your days are numbered with Bevo once he prefers his "project" players over his proven players. Macrae played with injured ribs the majority of last year. He makes up for his lack of pace with his ability of knowing where the ball is going to go. He is also elite with his skills. Still have no idea what they see in Bramble, he looked ordinary at the Hawks game.
Why are we constantly comparing the selection of players who play in different positions?

If anything, it's Sanders and Harmes who would need to be dropped for Macrae. Both have had outstanding pre-seasons.

AshMac
17-03-2024, 12:04 PM
In round 20 last season we played GWS who soon after got beaten in the preliminary final by 1 point by the eventual premiers.

Macrae, Libba, Treloar all had over 30 possessions. At half time we had 16 scoring shots to less than half that.

In the end we lost because Greene kicked 5 goals and our forwards supplied very little- Naughton 1, Weightman 1, West 1. Most of our goals came from the midfielders and backline.

The end result wasn?t due to a lack of speed, just a lack of smarts. And not in the middle. Actually a hundred metres from there. That?s what I am hoping to see has been addressed tomorrow.

Watching sydney lower their eyes every time they went forward and going short or sideways waiting for a target to hit up was the blueprint to how I want to see us play.

If we can?t address that composure and run through the middle then effective delivery into our forward line we?ll have addressed nothing IMO