The Moment: Rnd 7, 2024 vs Fremantle

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

The moment, the best, most courageous moment that caught your eye in tonight's game against Fremantle. Was it the moment that told you 'we've got this' or 'we lost this one right here'? Or was it the moment that you went 'wow....that is crazy courage'

Or was it a collection of moments that you thought 'oh dear that's sure to produce a flood of WOOF melts on par with GG's post GF loss..

[bulldogtragic]

Bont.

[bulldogtragic]

Bont.

VDM late too.

Just too many to choose from.

[chef]

Khamis getting picked.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Bont.

Belief shattering...

[josie]

Yep, Bont?s miss in Q3.

[MrMahatma]

Bont’s miss.

Englishes misses.

[JanLorMill]

Letting Serong, Fyfe and brayshaw dominate early and not being able to cool them.

[angelopetraglia]

The Bont miss was bad. But we kicked the next goal didn't we? Darcy?

It was bad but not the moment. We were within a goal with about five minutes to play. Lots of 50/50 moments in that last 10 minutes when the game was in the balance.

The VDM kicking it long to Lobb and Naughton where Lobb gave away the free kick? He had West short. Doc getting the ball smothered and them taking it down the other end? Aish outmarking both Enlgish and Naughton?

[Sedat]

VDM late too.

Just too many to choose from.
Poor VDM. He did absolutely everything right and was probably having his best AFL game, but unfortunately reverted to type in a critical moment when the game was in the balance.

Bont miss is just unforgivable from 10m out. He has to wear that. That's the key moment of the match.

[Grantysghost]

Aish out marking English and Naughton when the game was on the line.
All down hill after that.

[comrade]

Aish out marking English and Naughton when the game was on the line.
All down hill after that.

Yeah, that was it.

[bornadog]

For me it was miss, after miss in the third, then Bont marks and I thought this is it we can't miss again.

[Sedat]

The Aish mark just had to come to ground. Naughton got worked under the ball by Pearce and English as the spare had to impact that marking contest so our smalls could get to work. Allowing defenders to outmark in an aerial contest is one of my biggest pet hates - it should never happen.

[merantau]

Bont's miss was so bad but it was a crowded field with many putting their hands up. That's why we lost.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Aish out marking English and Naughton when the game was on the line.
All down hill after that.

Yeah i think the game was lost even before this only because games like this have a loss written all over it for our side.

But a mid outmarking your 2 tallest markers just typifies why we lose games like these.

[Sedat]

I watched the 4th qtr replay again (I know, sucker for punishment). We were just really poor in the moments that mattered. Doc took an eternity to get the ball into F50 when we were 4 points down and really challenging - result was a smother and the ball being deep in Freo territory. VDM missed the simple West spot-up and went top of the square to our tall targets - free kick against. And of course the Aish mark.

When was the last time we nailed the critical moments in a game to get over the line? We are something like 0-8 in the last 12 months for close games (0-9 if you count last night, which was in the balance with 3 mins to go). We are the anti-Collingwood in our ability to capitulate when the moments really matter (in front or behind, doesn't really matter).

Just on the VDM kick to the top of the square - we were doing this all night, so it must be a non-negotiable in our game plan to go long and quick deep to our tall targets. It makes us really predictable and easy to defend against. It was really jarring early last week against the Saints to see Garcia do the clever angled short kick to spot up the free target inside 50 - normally we just do the long bomb to snake, which is what we did all night last night. That's not an out for VDM - he really should have seen West free and taken the better option. But if we are being taught to automatically go in long and direct to the tall timber, we are about 20 years too late with our game plan (even if Darcy made it look good a few times last night).

[Pleather Sole]

Bont's miss was so bad but it was a crowded field with many putting their hands up. That's why we lost.

Bont's miss was bad. It was telling. First time in ages that I've seen him show fatigue and he looked defeated. Sick and tired of always mopping up for many others. The team covered the loss of Libba last week well. Last night it was all over the shop. If we didn't have Bont we'd be bottom four. I had quite a few drinks watching the game and my memory is that we only had about 10 players on the ground.

[Pleather Sole]

�� Exactly, our gameplan is stale, inefficient and static. There's no flexibility for situations when the usual structure isn't working. Its robbing players of their game smarts and sense. Was anyone free to play on instinct? Having watched Geelong put on a show directly before our match I was thinking "why do we not execute like that?" the contrast is staggering.

[The bulldog tragician]

Bont’s miss. Imagine the meltdown if this was VDM.

It really was just inexcusable, and yet when he lined up, I knew it was only too possible that it could happen.

[Raels_d]

For me it was miss, after miss in the third, then Bont marks and I thought this is it we can't miss again.

I actually said to my husband he?ll probably miss!
It was this and all the other behinds kicked in the 3rd - 2 goals 9 for the quarter WTF

[chef]

I actually said to my husband he?ll probably miss!
It was this and all the other behinds kicked in the 3rd - 2 goals 9 for the quarter WTF

Yeah I said the same thing to my wife, you could just tell he was going to miss it.

[Mofra]

Bont's miss for sure - our best player, captain, $1m marquee man missing from 5m out.

[jeemak]

Bont's miss. And to be honest I'm sick of the sympathy card that gets wheeled out for him time and again when this type of thing happens.

Yep, we depend on him and we need him to stand up ALL the time, just like every team needs of their best player and captain. Can't keep making excuses for him.

The Duryea smother a close second.

[Sedat]

Bont's miss. And to be honest I'm sick of the sympathy card that gets wheeled out for him time and again when this type of thing happens.

Yep, we depend on him and we need him to stand up ALL the time, just like every team needs of their best player and captain. Can't keep making excuses for him.
We had other misses that should have been converted - English twice, Darcy, Treloar twice. But none of these were from 8 metres out on a slight angle. It is ridiculous that Bont is getting an out because "he carries the team on his back and does so much". It was an inexcusably poor miss at a critical time in the game.

[azabob]

Who is giving Bontempelli an out for missing the goal?

[Sedat]

Who is giving Bontempelli an out for missing the goal?
There has been a bit of chatter about it (not necessarily here) - I'd be annoyed if he missed a set shot from 40m but that's not inexcusable. Missing from basically the goal square is.

[Grantysghost]

There has been a bit of chatter about it (not necessarily here) - I'd be annoyed if he missed a set shot from 40m but that's not inexcusable. Missing from basically the goal square is.

My memory is he has been going around the corner on the right from that kind of spot in the past? What changed?

He really has a lazy routine I think, completely leant back on that one and he always misses left.

[Happy Days]

It was Bont’s miss. I’m in a group chat with a couple of mates who are usually pretty merciless about the Dogs because I’m the easiest person to bait in the entire world, but the only message I got when Bont missed was “I’m so sorry man”.

[GVGjr]

There has been a bit of chatter about it (not necessarily here) - I'd be annoyed if he missed a set shot from 40m but that's not inexcusable. Missing from basically the goal square is.

For an otherwise great midfielder he isnt a lethal goal kicker and it's been my biggest knock on him. Just misses too many gettable goals that other greats probably make just a bit more frequently..

[azabob]

For an otherwise great midfielder he isnt a lethal goal kicker and it's been my biggest knock on him. Just misses too many gettable goals that other greats probably make just a bit more frequently..

It was an inexcusable miss. No doubt about it.

I think most would agree his goal kicking is his weakness.

Looking at a pure career average he isn't too far off the top liners in today's game.

Bontempelli over his career averages 0.9 goals per game V 2024 1.4 goals per game.
Dangerfield averages 1.0
Petracca the same 1.0
Cripps averages 0.5
Pendlebury averages 0.5

Gary Ablett jnr is way ahead with 1.2 goals per game. But maybe skewed as he did spend his early career forward.

Not sure how you objectively measure gettable goals compared to the other greats but overall, his goal kicking has improved this year.