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Scraggers
08-05-2024, 04:51 PM
All members have just received a letter from Kylie addressing the on field situation.

I like that she is getting on the front foot but this could have happened at the beginning of the year after the review.

ledge
08-05-2024, 04:55 PM
Going through the motions .

bornadog
08-05-2024, 05:08 PM
this could have happened at the beginning of the year after the review.

I don't understand that comment? She sent through letters at the start of the year explaining what the review was about and also the results of the review.

Not sure why supporters want to Pot her. I think she is doing a very good job, and she is a very passionate Doggies fan.

GVGjr
08-05-2024, 05:18 PM
I don't understand that comment? She sent through letters at the start of the year explaining what the review was about and also the results of the review.

Not sure why supporters want to Pot her. I think she is doing a very good job, and she is a very passionate Doggies fan.

The club is in a strong position and both Kylie and Ameet have certainly built on what they inherited from Peter Gordon.
When you consider we have a potential 7m lawsuit sitting over our heads and yet we are in a strong enough financial where it isn't jeopardizing the club in anyway is a testament to the job our leadership team is doing.

I would love to see Kylie working the media a bit more but that's a minor issue in the scheme of things.

Can Bar
08-05-2024, 05:20 PM
People who are half glass empty, are half glass empty. Or if you are looking for something negative. You will find it. Just hope the people who are running our club are half glass full. Or looking for the positives, as they will find them.

whythelongface
08-05-2024, 05:24 PM
Going through the motions .

Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.

Obviously our President senses the frustration and hence determines that it is important to convey a message to members. If she doesn’t front up people criticise for being MIA. Yet conveying a message of hope is seen to be a negative. Not sure what else she is meant to do (apart from the extreme of sacking the coach)

Scraggers
08-05-2024, 05:26 PM
I don't understand that comment? She sent through letters at the start of the year explaining what the review was about and also the results of the review.

Not sure why supporters want to Pot her. I think she is doing a very good job, and she is a very passionate Doggies fan.

Definitely not potting her. She is doing the job well. Her communication could be more frequent and specific. I get that she can’t name names.

My comment relates to her skirting around the issues and painting a rosy image of the review. I wanted warts and all. Not an abridged version or “The Old Mr Grace” from Are You Being Served.

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 06:07 PM
I really like KWW, not sure why there's so much hate from some quarters.

angelopetraglia
08-05-2024, 06:22 PM
I really like KWW, not sure why there's so much hate from some quarters.

I think most of it comes from that she writes, talks and presents like she is running a large corporate enterprise. She isn't. She is running a footy club with strong roots to the working class people of the Western Suburbs. Footy isn't a business. People want to hear some authentic passion and knowledge. They want her to communicate more consistely in a way that reasonates with the everyday member. I don't believe she does that.

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 06:30 PM
I think most of it comes from that she writes, talks and presents like she is running a large corporate enterprise. She isn't. She is running a footy club with strong roots to the working class people of the Western Suburbs. Footy isn't a business. People want to hear some authentic passion and knowledge. They want her to communicate more consistely in a way that reasonates with the everyday member. I don't believe she does that.
Name another president who does this. The game and running the club are business like these days that's not her fault.

bornadog
08-05-2024, 06:32 PM
I think most of it comes from that she writes, talks and presents like she is running a large corporate enterprise. She isn't. She is running a footy club with strong roots to the working class people of the Western Suburbs. Footy isn't a business. People want to hear some authentic passion and knowledge. They want her to communicate more consistely in a way that reasonates with the everyday member. I don't believe she does that.

I don't agree. She is not the CEO


Name another president who does this. The game and running the club are business like these days that's not her fault.

Yes, you never hear from presidents anymore

JanLorMill
08-05-2024, 07:27 PM
Hard to see this crisis we are in lasting this long if we were under President Gordon.

ledge
08-05-2024, 07:30 PM
Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.

Obviously our President senses the frustration and hence determines that it is important to convey a message to members. If she doesn’t front up people criticise for being MIA. Yet conveying a message of hope is seen to be a negative. Not sure what else she is meant to do (apart from the extreme of sacking the coach)

Don’t get me wrong i am not potting her but we all expected something from her and of course it’s going to be about the club being united.
Every time any club gets in a position like this the president makes a statement, it was our presidents turn.
I did like Egans chat on SEN gave us a bit of info and I hope what he says is the case.
I hope this is a Geelong moment where Thompson was in trouble and turned it around for a few flags .

ledge
08-05-2024, 07:33 PM
Hard to see this crisis we are in lasting this long if we were under President Gordon.

I am not sure it is a crisis as such.
Poor old Peter was fighting to keep the club going as well.
Now that’s a crisis.

whythelongface
08-05-2024, 07:51 PM
I am not sure it is a crisis as such.
Poor old Peter was fighting to keep the club going as well.
Now that’s a crisis.

Agree. Not a crisis. A crisis is more 2014 when your Captain walks out and there is no coach. We are going through a hard time but definitely not a crisis.

JanLorMill
08-05-2024, 08:23 PM
It’s a crisis lose to bottom team when you suppose to be top 8. Same as last year.

JanLorMill
08-05-2024, 08:24 PM
Agree. Not a crisis. A crisis is more 2014 when your Captain walks out and there is no coach. We are going through a hard time but definitely not a crisis.
In hindsight that’s just what we needed not a crisis. It was corrected in a few weeks. This current crisis is been on since late last year.

jeemak
08-05-2024, 09:11 PM
Hard to see this crisis we are in lasting this long if we were under President Gordon.

Who was president in 2017-2020?

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 09:21 PM
Who was president in 2017-2020?
Trump

EasternWest
08-05-2024, 09:26 PM
Trump

Many people are saying he still is. So many people, good people. You wouldn't believe how many people.

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 09:35 PM
Many people are saying he still is. So many people, good people. You wouldn't believe how many people.
https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNWY5eHlqNTM2M2g3Mmw3MGZsc20xbTlia2Y4dnI1M 3E0dTY0dWFuNiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/7ziO8WTeXJCGZlq4mm/giphy.gif

bornadog
08-05-2024, 09:45 PM
Many people are saying he still is. So many people, good people. You wouldn't believe how many people.

Not good people

Uninformed
08-05-2024, 10:01 PM
Many people are saying he still is. So many people, good people. You wouldn't believe how many people.


And still winning. So much winning. There has never been anything like it before.

jeemak
08-05-2024, 10:16 PM
Not good people

There's good people on both sides.

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 10:23 PM
There's good people on both sides.
Absolutely. Crazy and blinkered to think otherwise. Loads of intelligent caring folks support T-rump as an alternative to where am I Biden.

Both completely lost in my opinion.

Hotdog60
08-05-2024, 10:27 PM
The Americans need to stop voting in old farts that have lived their lives and get someone who has to live with what they do.

EasternWest
08-05-2024, 10:30 PM
Not good people

We're gonna build a skinfold machine and BAD's gonna pay for it.

jeemak
08-05-2024, 10:31 PM
Absolutely. Crazy and blinkered to think otherwise. Loads of intelligent caring folks support T-rump as an alternative to where am I Biden.

Both completely lost in my opinion.

It's a play on when Trump said there were very fine people on both sides, seemingly defending Nazis/ white supremacists.

FrediKanoute
08-05-2024, 10:35 PM
Absolutely. Crazy and blinkered to think otherwise. Loads of intelligent caring folks support T-rump as an alternative to where am I Biden.

Both completely lost in my opinion.

You do know that Biden and Trump are practically the same age...

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 10:41 PM
You do know that Biden and Trump are practically the same age...
Both terrible. Biden more palatable clearly for me however you can't say Trump voters are bad people. Some are sure.

We should change topic i sense the moderator...!

Grantysghost
08-05-2024, 10:45 PM
The Americans need to stop voting in old farts that have lived their lives and get someone who has to live with what they do.

Surely they have candidates in their 60s?!

https://youtu.be/TkRXA0c4ahs?si=sc58QajV57dRfx1f

Uninformed
08-05-2024, 11:10 PM
The club is in a strong position and both Kylie and Ameet have certainly built on what they inherited from Peter Gordon.
When you consider we have a potential 7m lawsuit sitting over our heads and yet we are in a strong enough financial where it isn't jeopardizing the club in anyway is a testament to the job our leadership team is doing.

I would love to see Kylie working the media a bit more but that's a minor issue in the scheme of things.

Good to hear a positive perspective from our Pres. She is the most capable President I have seen at Footscray by a significant margin.

Realistically it is hard not to be positive. We have the best constructed list I have seen, the best coach, seemingly good assistants with some fresh faces, good fitness and medical, good administration, our largest membership, good sponsors, a thorough review implemented, brilliant facilities, a great surface at W. O. to train on. We have even got some true supporters amongst that membership. Aside from the media rubbish and fractious fans (who seem not able to support the team we have) the club has never been in better shape.

The whining about losing a couple is sad. Fortunately you can get professional help for emotional breakdowns. No more waking in the middle of the night screaming 'sack the coach!' It is a journey from self-indulgent opinionatedness to being a real supporter of the team, but gotta start somewhere if we want to make things better.

Every year we, and every other team, lose to someone we think we should have been able to beat (Hawthorn.) Every year winning is a week to week proposition, to the point that 2016 seemed like a fairy tale at the time and a miracle afterwards.

There are enough good parts of games to see we can compete and continue to improve this year. We just need to get behind the effort to do that and be positive. It is a great time to be a Western Bulldogs supporter!

mjp
08-05-2024, 11:20 PM
Good to hear a positive perspective from our Pres. She is the most capable President I have seen at Footscray by a significant margin.


I wish you'd done a video presentation of this...that way you could have added a few over the top winks to emphasise some of the more prescient points you have made.

Uninformed
08-05-2024, 11:22 PM
I wish you'd done a video presentation of this...that way you could have added a few over the top winks to emphasise some of the more prescient points you have made.

Where was that emoji when you need it?

hujsh
08-05-2024, 11:25 PM
Absolutely. Crazy and blinkered to think otherwise. Loads of intelligent caring folks support T-rump as an alternative to where am I Biden.

Both completely lost in my opinion.
The real ones support neither and vote uncommitted

bornadog
08-05-2024, 11:27 PM
We're gonna build a skinfold machine and BAD's gonna pay for it.

AFL have said no need for skin folds anymore

D Mitchell
08-05-2024, 11:32 PM
An email from the phantom Club President, on 8 May, advising that everything is going well. Why ? Am I missing something ?

bornadog
08-05-2024, 11:37 PM
An email from the phantom Club President, on 8 May, advising that everything is going well. Why ? Am I missing something ?

The barrage of disrespect towards our coach by media and supporters after the loss - the club came out fighting. See also article from Footy manager interview. Click here (https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?24257-Dogs-footy-boss-backs-incredible-coach-Beveridge-amid-aggressive-media-attacks)

SonofScray
08-05-2024, 11:41 PM
Damned if you do. Damned if you don?t.

Obviously our President senses the frustration and hence determines that it is important to convey a message to members. If she doesn?t front up people criticise for being MIA. Yet conveying a message of hope is seen to be a negative. Not sure what else she is meant to do (apart from the extreme of sacking the coach)

Sacking a coach is not extreme.

Uninformed
08-05-2024, 11:48 PM
Not extreme. Just dumb!

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 12:08 AM
The real ones support neither and vote uncommitted
I've seen peeps that take down murderers for a living and bring amazing relief to victims vote T-rump so not sure about that.
I despise the guy. But peeps with half a brain for some reason vote for him.

D Mitchell
09-05-2024, 12:14 AM
The barrage of disrespect towards our coach by media and supporters after the loss - the club came out fighting. See also article from Footy manager interview. Click here (https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?24257-Dogs-footy-boss-backs-incredible-coach-Beveridge-amid-aggressive-media-attacks)

Is that an "I reckon" or do you know something ? Ah, the club takes seriously headline-seeking journos and the uninformed on footy fori. Better ignored.

kruder
09-05-2024, 12:15 AM
Great to see some support for Bevo but lets be honest, if we are beaten by Richmond the tribe has spoken

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 12:19 AM
Great to see some support for Bevo but lets be honest, if we are beaten by Richmond the tribe has spoken

No. It's just part of the evolution baby

D Mitchell
09-05-2024, 12:19 AM
Great to see some support for Bevo but lets be honest, if we are beaten by Richmond the tribe has spoken

The tribe should speak quietly. Leave it to the elected / qualified.

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 12:22 AM
The tribe should speak quietly. Leave it to the elected / qualified.
You haven't evolved

hujsh
09-05-2024, 12:35 AM
I've seen peeps that take down murderers for a living and bring amazing relief to victims vote T-rump so not sure about that.
I despise the guy. But peeps with half a brain for some reason vote for him.

Yeah cops love him

D Mitchell
09-05-2024, 12:41 AM
You haven't evolved
Nor am I INvolved.

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 12:43 AM
Yeah cops love him
My idea is : lets give less ****s about the US.

EasternWest
09-05-2024, 09:33 AM
I've seen peeps that take down murderers for a living and bring amazing relief to victims vote T-rump so not sure about that.
I despise the guy. But peeps with half a brain for some reason vote for him.

It's because he empowers them to say the quiet parts out loud.


My idea is : lets give less ****s about the US.

Aren't you the one that keeps bringing it up :)?

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 10:31 AM
It's because he empowers them to say the quiet parts out loud.



Aren't you the one that keeps bringing it up :)?

He does - he's horrid. Yes it is me haha. Projecting my fear of Trump v 2.

/Trump soz G back on track.

I think the timing of KWW message was good.

jazzadogs
09-05-2024, 02:59 PM
If you've got an issue with KWW corporate speak then you really have an issue with the AFL industry as a whole.

Peter Gordon was part of a dying breed - Eddie, Kennett, Brayshaw - of presidents who would truly speak their mind. Kochie is the last one standing.

A quiet president who keeps the club thriving off field is a good president. I've been happy with the updates and what I've heard from her. We are not humming on field, and I am very ready for Bevo to go, but I am happy for them to make an objective rather than emotional decision.

hujsh
09-05-2024, 03:01 PM
If you've got an issue with KWW corporate speak then you really have an issue with the AFL industry as a whole.

Peter Gordon was part of a dying breed - Eddie, Kennett, Brayshaw - of presidents who would truly speak their mind. Kochie is the last one standing.

A quiet president who keeps the club thriving off field is a good president. I've been happy with the updates and what I've heard from her. We are not humming on field, and I am very ready for Bevo to go, but I am happy for them to make an objective rather than emotional decision.

Fair points. Also worth remembering that KWW isn't some usurper who came in and stole the club from Gordo but his hand picked successor. So to some extent if you have a problem with her and her style some blame has to go to Peter as well.

Grantysghost
09-05-2024, 03:36 PM
If you've got an issue with KWW corporate speak then you really have an issue with the AFL industry as a whole.

Peter Gordon was part of a dying breed - Eddie, Kennett, Brayshaw - of presidents who would truly speak their mind. Kochie is the last one standing.

A quiet president who keeps the club thriving off field is a good president. I've been happy with the updates and what I've heard from her. We are not humming on field, and I am very ready for Bevo to go, but I am happy for them to make an objective rather than emotional decision.
Wise words

EasternWest
09-05-2024, 04:51 PM
If you've got an issue with KWW corporate speak then you really have an issue with the AFL industry as a whole.

Well, duh.

D Mitchell
09-05-2024, 05:34 PM
If you've got an issue with KWW corporate speak then you really have an issue with the AFL industry as a whole.

Peter Gordon was part of a dying breed - Eddie, Kennett, Brayshaw - of presidents who would truly speak their mind. Kochie is the last one standing.

A quiet president who keeps the club thriving off field is a good president. I've been happy with the updates and what I've heard from her. We are not humming on field, and I am very ready for Bevo to go, but I am happy for them to make an objective rather than emotional decision.
Bolded bit. Hear, hear. The first version of Gordon, post fightback heroics, alienating head office. Smorgo righted the ship. Gordon's second stint was mature and the Club prospered. I've heard that Watson-Wheeler is well regarded at Headquarters - something to do with quiet, behind the scenes work on Marvel naming rights.

JanLorMill
09-05-2024, 05:38 PM
Who was president in 2017-2020?
How are you in crisis when you won the premiership the year before(2017).
We made finals in 19 and 20 too.