AFL Game Day - R22

[GVGjr]

Lets keep all the non Bulldog discussions for the round to this thread.
Some fantastic games that will really shape the ladder and the finals positioning.


Friday
Sydney vs Collingwood

Saturday
Brisbane vs GWS
North Melbourne vs West Coast
Fremantle vs Geelong
Essendon vs Gold Coast
Melbourne vs Port Adelaide

Sunday
Carlton vs Hawthorn
Richmond vs St Kilda

[bornadog]

Will be interesting to see if Sydney bounce back tonight

Some vital games that will shape the 8

[hujsh]

Lets keep all the non Bulldog discussions for the round to this thread.
Some fantastic games that will really shape the ladder and the finals positioning.


Friday
Sydney vs Collingwood

Saturday
Brisbane vs GWS
North Melbourne vs West Coast
Fremantle vs Geelong
Essendon vs Gold Coast
Melbourne vs Port Adelaide

Sunday
Carlton vs Hawthorn
Richmond vs St Kilda

Do we generally like the bolded teams winning?

I think we're too far back from Sydney and Brisbane so better for them to knock back a team aspiring for the 8 and another just ahead of us in GWS who we can overtake if we keep winning.

Freo/Geelong is a bit of a win/win but it might be the only chance we get to overtake Geelong. They have 2 games they should win comfortably coming up

Hawks would be nice if they drop away but I have them missing the 8 even if they beat Carlton so pegging Carlton back off our tail would be helpful

[Bulldog Joe]

Do we generally like the bolded teams winning?

I think we're too far back from Sydney and Brisbane so better for them to knock back a team aspiring for the 8 and another just ahead of us in GWS who we can overtake if we keep winning.

Freo/Geelong is a bit of a win/win but it might be the only chance we get to overtake Geelong. They have 2 games they should win comfortably coming up

Hawks would be nice if they drop away but I have them missing the 8 even if they beat Carlton so pegging Carlton back off our tail would be helpful

We have our destiny almost totally in our hands.

Freo over Geelong helps for top 4.
Sydney lose all 3 remaining and we can overtake them
Collingwood are no threat if we keep winning
GWS are taken care of by us if we keep winning.
Carlton and Hawthorn are no threat to our position if we keep winning.

Pleasure in a Carlton loss would be tempered by Hawthorn being potentially more of a finals threat.

Essendon no threat to us but losing to Gold Coast would cement them to 20 years without a finals win, but leave them with a chance of another finals loss.

[Grantysghost]

Will be interesting to see if Sydney bounce back tonight

Some vital games that will shape the 8
Cooked!

[Grantysghost]

We have our destiny almost totally in our hands.

Freo over Geelong helps for top 4.
Sydney lose all 3 remaining and we can overtake them
Collingwood are no threat if we keep winning
GWS are taken care of by us if we keep winning.
Carlton and Hawthorn are no threat to our position if we keep winning.

Pleasure in a Carlton loss would be tempered by Hawthorn being potentially more of a finals threat.

Essendon no threat to us but losing to Gold Coast would cement them to 20 years without a finals win, but leave them with a chance of another finals loss.
Yes I'd prefer Blues to Hawks

[ledge]

Sydney have lost everything , backline is stuffing up everything and the mids have no connection with the forwards.
Amazing turnaround to lose all the team work they had going.
Let’s see if the first 15 min is all they had but you can’t get much worse.

[merantau]

Sydney are gone. It's only quater time but Pies have dominated after the first ten minutes.

[azabob]

Quanyor is following the Stinger diet.

[ledge]

Did I see Leon Cameron on the Sydney bench and McCartney on the pies bench ?

[Mofra]

Did I see Leon Cameron on the Sydney bench and McCartney on the pies bench ?
Leon is the "Executive General Manager of Football" at the swans.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Swans look shot.

This is some capitulation. But I called this. Their model was so unsustainable.

[ledge]

Whatever that music is after the swans kick a goal is horrid.

[NoseBleed]

Not sure if this shows that the Swans aren’t done, or that the Pies are gettable, no matter what.

[bornadog]

Collingwood choking

[bornadog]

Amazing comeback. Collingwood gone for 2024

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Credit to the Swans because they looked dead, but WTF was that from Collingwood at stoppage to concede 4 goals in the last qtr!?

[whythelongface]

Collingwood choking

Yep. Swans did a Collingwood against Collingwood.

Probably puts the Pies out of the race. Good in that regard.

[chef]

Great stuff Swannies.

[Mofra]

Amazing finish

[Grantysghost]

How was that not 50 in the last play. He ran ten metres over the mark.

Pies will be livid.

That didn't give me any confidence the Swans have turned the corner.

They did get a big lift from Warner and Heeney late they are critical.

[ledge]

I am amazed what the pies gave away for Shultz. Got to be the biggest **** up of all time.
Had Richard as a sub and didn’t swap them over ? I would have don’t it at qtr time .

[Sedat]

How was that not 50 in the last play. He ran ten metres over the mark.

Pies will be livid.
Karma for the missed 50 against North.

Filth can shove it up their arse.

[bornadog]

Karma for the missed 50 against North.

Filth can shove it up their arse.

I am actually sick and tired of the bullshit 50m umps have been giving, so glad it wasn't paid.

[comrade]

If we squeeze into 4th, I?d much rather play Sydney than any other side so good result.

[Bulldog Joe]

If we squeeze into 4th, I?d much rather play Sydney than any other side so good result.

Can't disagree with that except Swans no certainty to retain top spot.
They don't win that without the dominant quarter from Heeney.
They were poor for most of the game.

[Mofra]

Can't disagree with that except Swans no certainty to retain top spot.
They don't win that without the dominant quarter from Heeney.
They were poor for most of the game.
They surely win against Adelaide at home in the final round.
Essendon next week is 50/50 at Marvel

[Bulldog Joe]

They surely win against Adelaide at home in the final round.
Essendon next week is 50/50 at Marvel

They couldn't defend against a Collingwood side that had very little from Nic Daicos.
Ground level they were really poor.

Essendon likely to score heavily against them and Adelaide have ground level forwards that could feast on them if they don't have dramatic improvement from what they showed against Collingwood.

[Grantysghost]

I am actually sick and tired of the bullshit 50m umps have been giving, so glad it wasn't paid.
There needs to be a 25 for lesser things like the protected area.

[Bulldog Joe]

There needs to be a 25 for lesser things like the protected area.

Let's not give them another option to be completely inconsistent.

We need consistency

[hujsh]

Let's not give them another option to be completely inconsistent.

We need consistency

Surely it would not be arbitrary what is 50 vs 25. If you bring in a 25m penalty you standardise which infractions they apply to.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Collingwood fans melting down about the missed 50?

Macrae inadvertently admitting that his team gets an advantage when playing at the MCG (you know, the ground they play 18 games at AND where the GF is hosted)?

*Chef's kiss*

[Grantysghost]

Let's not give them another option to be completely inconsistent.

We need consistency
It would be clear which are 25 id hope if it went that way.
Its such a massive penalty.

[bornadog]

It would be clear which are 25 id hope if it went that way.
Its such a massive penalty.

That's why last night, all the ump has to do is call the player back on the mark - there was no time wasting, Mcartin was running fast and went over the mark for a second.

The original 50m rule was introduced for time wasting and holding up play.

50m Penalty:


50-metre penalties are primarily used to deal with time wasting or unsportsmanlike conduct after a mark or free kick is awarded. Specific infractions which can result in a 50-metre penalty include:



Arguing with, disputing the decision of, or using abusive language towards an umpire.
Scragging the player who has taken a mark; that is, to tackle the player or impede him from taking the kick as quickly as he would like.
Failing to return the ball quickly and on the full to a player who has been awarded a free kick.
Wasting time, deliberately or inadvertently, by kicking the ball forward after one's team has conceded a free kick.
Using unnecessary roughness against a player who has already taken a mark.
Running over the mark; the man standing on the mark cannot move forward, and must respond if called to recede by the umpire.
Running through the mark; other defensive players who are not standing on the mark may not run across the imaginary line between the man standing the mark and the man taking the kick, unless following his direct opponent.
Entering the protected zone; defensive players may not impede an opponent by entering or remaining within the corridor of space extending ten metres either side of the imaginary line between the man standing the mark and the man taking the kick, and extending backwards, unless following his direct opponent.
Impeding a player while he is advancing the ball as part of measuring out a previous 50-metre penalty.

[Grantysghost]

That's why last night, all the ump has to do is call the player back on the mark - there was no time wasting, Mcartin was running fast and went over the mark for a second.

The original 50m rule was introduced for time wasting and holding up play.

50m Penalty:

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I thought he was very late and went too far over the mark.
However reading the rules there's he did comply once asked to go back so it seems like the correct call.

[merantau]

Sydney kicked three goals in 4 minutes when Cox went in to the ruck. In that time he lost 4 ruck contests. One went straight to the Swans, the kick went to Logan McDonald who goaled. Right at the very death Cox, with 28 seconds left contested the throw in and double fisted it straight to Blakey who cleared the ball.
Game over.

[bornadog]

Sydney kicked three goals in 4 minutes when Cox went in to the ruck. In that time he lost 4 ruck contests. One went straight to the Swans, the kick went to Logan McDonald who goaled. Right at the very death Cox, with 28 seconds left contested the throw in and double fisted it straight to Blakey who cleared the ball.
Game over.

Not sure why he didn't grab the ball out of the ruck and had a ping. He is not the brightest spark

[bornadog]

Should McRae be sanctioned for calling the umpiring a Circus. Let's see if the AFL have balls.

[mighty_west]

Brissy Lions doing a Bulldogs today, poor kicking for goal and should have put the Giants away earlier in the game, Giants do look hot when the game is on their terms, can go either way this game.

[mighty_west]

Giants running all over the Lions at the Gabba, we are going to have to be at our best the final game of the season against this mob, Lions choking.

[merantau]

GWS dominated the last quarter. We are going to have to beat them in Ballarat. What's more it was their young players like Jones and Cadman who were pivotal. Lions inaccuracy was costly. Pay attention Bulldogs.

[The Underdog]

3 games, 3 big comeback wins.
Be on guard Dogs.

[comrade]

Good result, keeps us on the edge knowing we need to win every game to secure top 4.

[Bulldog Joe]

Surely it would not be arbitrary what is 50 vs 25. If you bring in a 25m penalty you standardise which infractions they apply to.

and you believe the umpires interpret it correctly?

[whythelongface]

What’s better a Freo win or Cats win? Freo win keeps us closer to top 4 (if we win)

[ledge]

Cats are up and about early,
Freo doing Freo things.

[josie]

What a crazy season. And pretty please dockers beat the cats.

[merantau]

Freo looked to have settled now. A Geelong win would NOT be good for us.

[Pleather Sole]

Freo looked to have settled now. A Geelong win would NOT be good for us.

What if its a draw?

[merantau]

Geelong have brought their own team of umpires over from GMHBA Stadium.

[merantau]

What if its a draw?

Provided we win, we'd jump over Freo but be two points behind Geelong

[chef]

Huge wins from the Cats and Giants today.

[The bulldog tragician]

I only saw the last quarter but regrettably it’s clear Geelong’s defence are still very strong. Freo just couldn’t get past them in a longish period where there was only a goal in it. They set up so well.There is something flakey about Freo, evident last week vs Bombres too.

[merantau]

Geelong were very impressive in that last quarter. Freo were bbeaten badly around the ball and in the air although their forwards were not helped by some very poor delivery inside 50.

[hujsh]

and you believe the umpires interpret it correctly?

It wouldn't be a matter of interpretation. Stepping over the mark/stand rule would be 25. Hitting someone in the head would be 50. etc.

[jeemak]

It wouldn't be a matter of interpretation. Stepping over the mark/stand rule would be 25. Hitting someone in the head would be 50. etc.

A 25m penalty would be easily installed and interpreted after the transgression was called.

[hujsh]

A 25m penalty would be easily installed and interpreted after the transgression was called.

I legit don't understand this sentence sorry.

[Grantysghost]

Demons doing well so far. I fear the power might walk over them late if their defence breaks.

Oliver is a sad sight at the moment I'd almost sub him.

[Happy Days]

This Suns Dons game is PUTRID. They should just lock the doors and leave both teams inside for the rest of the year.

[jeemak]

I legit don't understand this sentence sorry.

After an outside five, protected area or over the mark transgression was committed then the interpretation is what it is, and if you decide a transgression was committed it would be easy to say it's 25m instead of 50m.

Changing it from 50m to 25m is a simple directive that doesn't rely on an interpretation. I'm saying what you're saying.

But if you want trouble I can easily just agree with Bulldog Joe and start picking on you.

[kruder]

Ahh the seagulls are back at the G, giving me nightmares of that night against Richmond. Anything the MCC can do? Its so distracting looks awful on TV too.

[jeemak]

This Suns Dons game is PUTRID. They should just lock the doors and leave both teams inside for the rest of the year.

It's pretty ordinary and a really good example of why if you're finishing tenth you shouldn't be in a wildcard round to fluke a finals position.

[hujsh]

After an outside five, protected area or over the mark transgression was committed then the interpretation is what it is, and if you decide a transgression was committed it would be easy to say it's 25m instead of 50m.

Changing it from 50m to 25m is a simple directive that doesn't rely on an interpretation. I'm saying what you're saying.

But if you want trouble I can easily just agree with Bulldog Joe and start picking on you.

Nah I'm just a tad tired

[chef]

Couple of scrappers but the Ess/Suns game has been pretty entertaining.

[comrade]

Well it?s been a putrid day of rooting.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Well it?s been a putrid day of rooting.

Hasn't it just.

One thing I would say is a team outside the 4 could win it this year. None of the top 4 are formidable.

[chef]

What a game. That was awesome.

[angelopetraglia]

I love mac andrew!!!!!!!!!

[The Underdog]

Holy ****. Awesome work Mac Andrew but that’s a travesty. The Suns were a mess in that last quarter.

[angelopetraglia]

Port have now won five games in a row this season decided by less than six points.

Crazy!!!!!! Makes such a difference.

Demons 1
Saints 2
Hawks 1
Cats 6
Freo 3

[bornadog]

I love mac andrew!!!!!!!!!

Great stuff - at lest the Bombers lost

[angelopetraglia]

I really, really love Mac Andrew!!!!!!!

[comrade]

Port have now won five games in a row this season decided by less than six points.

Crazy!!!!!! Makes such a difference.

Demons 1
Saints 2
Hawks 1
Cats 6
Freo 3

Wins under a goal are basically a coin toss. I?d happily face them in a final.

[Eastdog]

How close is this season.

It is so wide open.

No standout team.

Someone from outside the top 4 can win it. We have done it before so have a history.

[bornadog]

The whole round has been close so far

[The bulldog tragician]

Bombres :) totally masterminded their own downfall.
Blitz will be hilarious tonight.

[bornadog]

Amazing Brisbane were sitting 2nd and are now 5th

[Prince Imperial]

Port have now won five games in a row this season decided by less than six points.

Crazy!!!!!! Makes such a difference.

Demons 1
Saints 2
Hawks 1
Cats 6
Freo 3

Yep and they went 4-1 in such matches last season.

[jeemak]

Sam Collins was epic in that last thirty seconds. Amazing contested loose ball win and had the sense to actually get the footy central and fifteen to twenty out instead of dicking around with it.

Mac Andrew was a genuine thoroughbred colt tonight, all over the place but raw talent on show.

[Mofra]

Essendon kicked 1 goal 9 behinds in the last quarter

*sniffle* I'm just so happy...

[josie]

How close is this season.

It is so wide open.

No standout team.

Someone from outside the top 4 can win it. We have done it before so have a history.

Yep-let?s make history a second time winning from outside top 4. Still worried about our remaining H&A matches though. Reckon GWS game will be gladiator like.

[comrade]

Top 4 going to be pretty difficult, just have to keep winning.

[bornadog]

Yep-let?s make history a second time winning from outside top 4. Still worried about our remaining H&A matches though. Reckon GWS game will be gladiator like.

Freo play Port at home and will need to win to make finals. If Freo win and we win all three, we can make top 4 on percentage

[hujsh]

Mac Andrew wins a game as Melbourne narrowly lose. I'd be fuming the AFL changed the rules for like 2 years if I was a Melbourne supporter.

[Mofra]

My God it's beautiful

11 out of the last 12 scoring shots of the game. 1.11 to 1.0

[Bulldog Joe]

Mac Andrew wins a game as Melbourne narrowly lose. I'd be fuming the AFL changed the rules for like 2 years if I was a Melbourne supporter.

But Mac Andrew would be so grateful he avoided that scrap heap that is Melbourne

[bornadog]

Mac Andrew wins a game as Melbourne narrowly lose. I'd be fuming the AFL changed the rules for like 2 years if I was a Melbourne supporter.

I know I would be livid. AFL have got to be the most unprofessional , Professional code ever. No thought goes into any rule changes.

[jeemak]

Essendon kicked 1 goal 9 behinds in the last quarter

*sniffle* I'm just so happy...

Tears of happiness.

[angelopetraglia]

With the Bombers losing.

One more win should get us in the finals unless the Bombers can knock off both the Swans at Marcel and the Lions at the Gabba.

Three wins and we make top four if Port, Lions or Cats drop a game.

Port gave Crows in the Showdown and Freo in Perth.

Lions have Pies at MCG and Bombers at GABBA.

Cats have Saints at Marvel and Eagles ar Kardinia.

[bornadog]

With the Bombers losing.

One more win should get us in the finals unless the Bombers can knock off both the Swans at Marcel and the Lions at the Gabba.

Three wins and we make top four if Port, Lions or Cats drop a game.

Port gave Crows in the Showdown and Freo in Perth.

Lions have Pies at MCG and Bombers at GABBA.

Cats have Saints at Marvel and Eagles ar Kardinia.

We must win all three

[jeemak]

With the Bombers losing.

One more win should get us in the finals unless the Bombers can knock off both the Swans at Marcel and the Lions at the Gabba.

Three wins and we make top four if Port, Lions or Cats drop a game.

Port gave Crows in the Showdown and Freo in Perth.

Lions have Pies at MCG and Bombers at GABBA.

Cats have Saints at Marvel and Eagles ar Kardinia.

I'm hoping Adelaide are saving themselves for the Showdown and then beat the living suitcase out of Port, for a Port loss in the last round.

If we win all three it's a fifteen win season and already a massive improvement on last year after substantial change at the club. With that sort of form and momentum that comes from a new vibe we enter the finals with a great formline.

[ledge]

Being realistic and looking at all the other games if we win all 3 we probably will end up 5th unless there is an upset or two

[Mofra]

Amazing that Collingwood cough up the last 5 goals of the game and still not have the biggest choke of the weekend

[jeemak]

Amazing that Collingwood cough up the last 5 goals of the game and still not have the biggest choke of the weekend

Looking forward to the narrative that Collingwood are still amazing in close ones, even if two weeks in a row they've been mown down for only one win.

[josie]

Was out tonight, couldn’t believe news bummers lost by a point after kicking 1 goal 9 points in last qtr. Just watching replay of last quarter of match. It’s some of the worst yet funniest football I’ve ever seen. Error ridden & turnover after turnover & Stringer and others missing gettable goals (enjoyed Stringers misses more although Gresham’s non goal is a pearler too). Scott doing a 360 chair turn when MacAndrew marked was comedy gold.

I actually feel sorry for a few bummer supporting friends.

[GVGjr]

Incredibly close games so far in the round and as a result the ladder is jam packed at the moment.

[mjp]

I actually feel sorry for a few bummer supporting friends.

So do I.

Every team has dickhead supporters but there are a heap of good people who didn't 'choose' to support Essendon. It's generational for them as it is for so many Dogs fans.

I wonder how Ben Rutten is feeling today.

[josie]

So do I.

Every team has dickhead supporters but there are a heap of good people who didn't 'choose' to support Essendon. It's generational for them as it is for so many Dogs fans.

I wonder how Ben Rutten is feeling today.

Agree, there are some good members at every club. I’ve got a dear bomber friend who used to go to games, but now only keeps eye on score and doesn’t even watch on tv. Pays up membership every year. Was turned off the game by Hird fiasco and harm to players, Dr Reid etc.

[comrade]

I know only one good Bombers supporter and he took his daughter to the game last night. I feel bad for him.

The rest? **** em!

[GVGjr]

I'm more that a bit uneasy reading Dogs supporters saying nice things about Essendon. Yes some of their supporters might be nice people but they're linked to a shit club and need to be reminded that it's not too late to cut their losses. :)

[soupman]

I hate them all. Even the best of them are the worst of us.

[hujsh]

The key indicator for me is do they defend the drug saga or say it was shit but they still love the club despite the people who were running it.

[josie]

Even we deranged softies still love seeing bombers lose the unloseable and long may this continue. Merret should come play for us too, that would be delightfully delicious.

[Grantysghost]

Even we deranged softies still love seeing bombers lose the unloseable and long may this continue. Merret should come play for us too, that would be delightfully delicious.

We could have had him, we gave them the pick (26?) for him.

We got Crameri. Pretty sure it was the Bont draft.

[Happy Days]

We could have had him, we gave them the pick (26?) for him.

We got Crameri. Pretty sure it was the Bont draft.

Yeah but we got all that equity

[Mofra]

Agree, there are some good members at every club. I’ve got a dear bomber friend who used to go to games, but now only keeps eye on score and doesn’t even watch on tv. Pays up membership every year. Was turned off the game by Hird fiasco and harm to players, Dr Reid etc.
I had an ex-teammate who switched to the Bulldogs post-supplement saga. Like, he's a member, full support, etc.
Good timing.

[Dogs 24/7]

Carlton have been jumped by Hawthorn. What is going wrong there?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Just switched it on, Hawks look like a top 4 team. They'll be dangerous in September.

[bornadog]

Just switched it on, Hawks look like a top 4 team. They'll be dangerous in September.
Channel 7 with VFL on

[Dry Rot]

What happened to Curnow?

[ledge]

Gee Carlton are slow even before the injuries.
If carlton hang in to make finals whoever plays them it’s a bye.

[bornadog]

What happened to Curnow?

Ankle

[DOG GOD]

Hawthorn is THE form team…their 2 losses in last 12-13 games were by under a goal I think.
Carlton look slow.
Hawks are playing free spirited footy…they are enjoying it.

[bornadog]

Hawthorn is THE form team…their 2 losses in last 12-13 games were by under a goal I think.
Carlton look slow.
Hawks are playing free spirited footy…they are enjoying it.

What has happened to Carlton, they are being smashed.

A few more goals and Hawks in 8 and Carlton out.

Edit; Hawks need to win by 65 points. Currently up by 54

[Grantysghost]

Hawks keys look their weakness.

Chol and Frost! Siciliy is their best and he's my height (188 or something).

Meek is a good average ruckman.

Bruest and Gunstan are ancient.

Not sure how a bunch of smart arse mid size and small players are pulling off this form to be honest.

[bornadog]

Hawks keys look their weakness.

Chol and Frost! Siciliy is their best and he's my height (188 or something).

Meek is a good average ruckman.

Bruest and Gunstan are ancient.

Not sure how a bunch of smart arse mid size and small players are pulling off this form to be honest.
They have Richmond and North to finish the year

[ledge]

Who is the biggest chokers ? Bombers or blues ?

[bornadog]

Who is the biggest chokers ? Bombers or blues ?

Must be Blues. They were sitting top 4 for most of the year and have now choked

[mighty_west]

Hawks keys look their weakness.

Chol and Frost! Siciliy is their best and he's my height (188 or something).

Meek is a good average ruckman.

Bruest and Gunstan are ancient.

Not sure how a bunch of smart arse mid size and small players are pulling off this form to be honest.

We won a Premiership without great key position players, they're working well to a good strong game style, they attack both ways offensively and defensively and look to be working their arses off, no one wants to play them in finals.

[bornadog]

Isn’t it nice to see 9th, Carlton 10th, Essendon and 11th Collingwood

[hujsh]

Isn’t it nice to see 9th, Carlton 10th, Essendon and 11th Collingwood

Then Melbourne even lower and Richmond at the bottom and the AFL are seething

[Flamethrower]

Hawks keys look their weakness.

Chol and Frost! Siciliy is their best and he's my height (188 or something).

Meek is a good average ruckman.

Bruest and Gunstan are ancient.

Not sure how a bunch of smart arse mid size and small players are pulling off this form to be honest.

D'Ambrosio is such a key player for the Hawks...lethal left footer who transitions the ball from the back line to the forward line. Rarely misses a target.

[Dry Rot]

Aside from Curnow, which other Blues were injured?

[mighty_west]

Aside from Curnow, which other Blues were injured?

Fogerty was subbed out, Jack Martin hammy? Boyd also looked injured.

[macca]

Hawks keys look their weakness.

Chol and Frost! Siciliy is their best and he's my height (188 or something).

Meek is a good average ruckman.

Bruest and Gunstan are ancient.

Not sure how a bunch of smart arse mid size and small players are pulling off this form to be honest.

I guess Bruest and Gunstan want to play finals for 1 more time before they retire.


What a weekend of footy. The 3 big clubs outside of the 8: Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood.

Scoot seemed to be trying to hold back his rage at the post-game conference with Essendon. If Dodo is really gone, there could be a some players chopped at end of season.

Fremantle continue to disappoint. Top 4 begging and they failed again.

[Mofra]

Hawks are the form team of the comp. We were 3-5 after 8 rounds, Brisbane were terrible early on.

Shows how long a season is and being the best team all year is very different to being the best team when it matters.

[merantau]

Hawthorn will be no pushovers if they make the 8. They are fit. They run in waves when they have the ball and when they don't have it. They apply a lot of pressure and they don't turn it over when they have it.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Hawthorn will be no pushovers if they make the 8. They are fit. They run in waves when they have the ball and when they don't have it. They apply a lot of pressure and they don't turn it over when they have it.

Of all the teams, they are the one I least want to play in Melbourne. I think the bigger MCG plays into their hands against us- I think we will struggle to manage their speed on spread.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Houston out is a big loss for Port. Can?t see him getting less than 4-5, but will they apply the invisible ?finals discount? and bump it down a little to make him available for the big dance if they make it?

[ledge]

Houston out is a big loss for Port. Can?t see him getting less than 4-5, but will they apply the invisible ?finals discount? and bump it down a little to make him available for the big dance if they make it?

From the Vision I saw he didnt hit his head and also looked to try and stop.
He might not get as many weeks as people say.
Head hitting the ground is what will get him.

[Mofra]

From the Vision I saw he didnt hit his head and also looked to try and stop.
He might not get as many weeks as people say.
Head hitting the ground is what will get him.
Zero chance - if you elect to bump, you wear the consequences. He's gone for 5+

[Grantysghost]

From the Vision I saw he didnt hit his head and also looked to try and stop.
He might not get as many weeks as people say.
Head hitting the ground is what will get him.
Maybe ten years ago ledge.

That's a 5 weeker. He won't play again this season. Rankine was out cold.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Maybe ten years ago ledge.

That's a 5 weeker. He won't play again this season. Rankine was out cold.

Agree. Also, when you hear Kane Cornes say he thinks it is 4+ when it is someone from Port, you know it has to be bad.