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Dry Rot
22-02-2009, 08:18 AM
Are we going to hear this all season? Heard a bit of it last night.

I'm sick of it already.

GVGjr
22-02-2009, 08:28 AM
Are we going to hear this all season? Heard a bit of it last night.

I'm sick of it already.

I can understand why he is so highly rated by the media and his own supporters but he does have a number of players in his own side that will pinch votes from him so he may never win one.

The media like to set someone up as the early favorite so it's good that it is him.

Sockeye Salmon
22-02-2009, 08:39 AM
Are we going to hear this all season? Heard a bit of it last night.

I'm sick of it already.

You hear it all the time but there has only truely been 1 bloke who really was robbed of a Brownlow.

Bulldog Revolution
22-02-2009, 08:40 AM
You hear it all the time but there has only truely been 1 bloke who really was robbed of a Brownlow.

aint that the truth

alwaysadog
22-02-2009, 09:14 AM
You hear it all the time but there has only truely been 1 bloke who really was robbed of a Brownlow.

... and by such a good friend of our club.

ledge
22-02-2009, 10:32 AM
Is all this based on an NAB cup match last night where most teams dont go in fully on the ball and play junior taggers on good players to give them a taste?

Happy Days
22-02-2009, 10:36 AM
Are we going to hear this all season? Heard a bit of it last night.

I'm sick of it already.

I don't know about you blokes but I've been hearing it from my mates since the Tuesday after.

The fact of the matter is if he deserved to win then he would have.

azabob
22-02-2009, 11:27 AM
Ablett wasn't "robbed" he was unlucky to miss a few games which may have resulted in him getting votes. Pure and simple.
That is the case with a player most years.

LostDoggy
22-02-2009, 11:31 AM
Is all this based on an NAB cup match last night where most teams dont go in fully on the ball and play junior taggers on good players to give them a taste?

I can remember a few years back one such player from our club with 16 on his back, ;)

BulldogBelle
22-02-2009, 02:15 PM
Ablett is very good but so are some of his teammates they will always take votes off of each other. Seeing the expression on Gablett's face after missing out to Bartel and then to Cooney he seemed so visibly upset. Perhaps, the media building him up so much he thought he was a shoe-in to win the brownlow.

LostDoggy
22-02-2009, 03:19 PM
He was robbed? Ablett? I mean, yeah, i'll grudgingly admit he's good, but like BB said, he himself thought he was going to win it, so it made me even more glad he didn't. As if Ablett wont have another chance at winning it!

The Pie Man
22-02-2009, 09:15 PM
Ablett is very good but so are some of his teammates they will always take votes off of each other. Seeing the expression on Gablett's face after missing out to Bartel and then to Cooney he seemed so visibly upset. Perhaps, the media building him up so much he thought he was a shoe-in to win the brownlow.

Reminded me of West losing out to Woewodin - we've had some ordinary Brownlow nights, was about time we caught a break....and we did.

Cooney had a fantastic year, but the league's best & fairest for 09? Hey, we all love him, and there's been worse medalists.

Another argument is that he was clearly BOG against Melbourne in round 2 and didn't get the 3 votes. He did get 3 in round 21 when Mitch Hahn played the game of his life, but that's the Brownlow.

The Underdog
23-02-2009, 08:37 AM
Was Ablett the best player in the comp last year? Probably Yes
Would he have won if he didn't miss games with injury? Probably yes
Does the best player in the comp usually win the Brownlow? Hardly Ever


Umpires judge this award, it's flawed to a large degree but it is the pre eminent award mainly because it has been around the longest.
Lots of great players have never won one, but I bet Ablett enjoys his premiership medal from 07 quite a bit and that Cooney would swap his Brownlow for one.

Bulldog Revolution
23-02-2009, 10:43 AM
For a guy that has been nigh on untacklable for a few years I didn't think it was possible

But from Saturday nights cameo Abletts agility and evasiveness looked to have gone up another level

The Underdog
23-02-2009, 02:08 PM
For a guy that has been nigh on untacklable for a few years I didn't think it was possible

But from Saturday nights cameo Abletts agility and evasiveness looked to have gone up another level

I'm not sure there's currently an opposition player that I enjoy watching more (except against us). I'll pick him for my DT just so I can have another excuse to watch him at every opportunity.

The Coon Dog
23-02-2009, 02:42 PM
I'm not sure there's currently an opposition player that I enjoy watching more (except against us). I'll pick him for my DT just so I can have another excuse to watch him at every opportunity.

And pick him as captain so you double up too.

LostDoggy
23-02-2009, 03:22 PM
Check my signature.

LostDoggy
23-02-2009, 03:41 PM
For a guy that has been nigh on untacklable for a few years I didn't think it was possible

But from Saturday nights cameo Abletts agility and evasiveness looked to have gone up another level

This could be a new word for football commentators. I love it

Let's see if Kelli Underwood gets onto it early

alwaysadog
23-02-2009, 04:04 PM
Geelong was the best team in the competittion last season but not when it counted, so they didn't win the flag.
Ablett is an outstanding player but was not the best in the eyes of those who award the Charlie, he's a long long, long way from being the first favourite to be over looked.

This is a counter factual argument about what might have been and is worth "diddly squat" to quote a former coach.

The records will show other names for both the Premiers for season 2008 and the Brownlow.

LostDoggy
24-02-2009, 12:39 PM
I enjoyed seeing him carry on that night. Acted like a 7 y.o missing out on pass-the-parcel turns. Very childish. Then to see in tears on GF day was the icing on the cake. He'd ask for a straw to go with his bathwater. Fantastic player, selfish person by the looks of it.

The Pie Man
25-02-2009, 08:57 PM
Was Ablett the best player in the comp last year? Probably Yes
Would he have won if he didn't miss games with injury? Probably yes
Does the best player in the comp usually win the Brownlow? Hardly Ever


Umpires judge this award, it's flawed to a large degree but it is the pre eminent award mainly because it has been around the longest.
Lots of great players have never won one, but I bet Ablett enjoys his premiership medal from 07 quite a bit and that Cooney would swap his Brownlow for one.

Agree with all of that

craigsahibee
26-02-2009, 01:25 PM
Was Ablett the best player in the comp last year? Probably Yes
Would he have won if he didn't miss games with injury? Probably yes
Does the best player in the comp usually win the Brownlow? Hardly Ever


Umpires judge this award, it's flawed to a large degree but it is the pre eminent award mainly because it has been around the longest.
Lots of great players have never won one, but I bet Ablett enjoys his premiership medal from 07 quite a bit and that Cooney would swap his Brownlow for one.

I find it amusing that for the entire season the "footy fan" abuses the umpire for their incorrect decisions yet those same fans place so much importance on the brownlow medal which is decided by votes cast by these same umpires that are ridiculed each week. Reeks of hypocrisy.

I know the more cerebral forums such as this one do not resort to this form of abuse as we consider ourselves "above" the throng, and rightfully so.

Sockeye Salmon
26-02-2009, 01:34 PM
I find it amusing that for the entire season the "footy fan" abuses the umpire for their incorrect decisions yet those same fans place so much importance on the brownlow medal which is decided by votes cast by these same umpires that are ridiculed each week. Reeks of hypocrisy.

I know the more cerebral forums such as this one do not resort to this form of abuse as we consider ourselves "above" the throng, and rightfully so.

You think Ernie Sigley is "above" abusing umpires?

Might want a rethink about that one.




(Twodogs goes alright at it as well)

ledge
26-02-2009, 02:21 PM
I dont have a problem with the umpires, mine is more a frustration as umpires do see things different, not a fault of theirs but more a game that rules are not clear cut.
If you had one umpire doing games it would be more consistant, the fact we have 3 makes it difficult.

LostDoggy
26-02-2009, 08:07 PM
I can understand why he is so highly rated by the media and his own supporters but he does have a number of players in his own side that will pinch votes from him so he may never win one.

The media like to set someone up as the early favorite so it's good that it is him.

How true, but lets not forget Coons had 21 other guys pinching votes from him each week too,. Griffo' is still good value at the lucky shop I reckon he will out poll you Gary Jr, LOL'

KT31
27-02-2009, 06:23 PM
You hear it all the time but there has only truely been 1 bloke who really was robbed of a Brownlow.

I disagree.
I think he was robbed of two.

Sockeye Salmon
27-02-2009, 10:14 PM
I disagree.
I think he was robbed of two.

He was unlucky in 96 but no more so than a dozen others over the last 30 years

West was truely stiff, Woewoeful didn't get a vote in Melbourne's B & F in R22, 2000 (9 of his teammates did) but his 3 Brownlow votes robbed Scooter.

Bumper Bulldogs
03-03-2009, 07:23 PM
aint that the truth

I Grant that!!!

LostDoggy
04-03-2009, 05:30 PM
I still find it exceedingly arrogant to attend a Brownlow night in a year that had many outstanding players, having missed several games due to injury, and still expect to win. Having said that, Ablett himself hasn't come out and had a sook about it, so it's unfortunate that a lot of people in effect end up hating/disliking him for something that the media/his fans have done.