Hitting the post!

[The Coon Dog]

No idea where you would find the stats, but does any team in the comp hit the post more than we do?

[AndrewP6]

That was one of few things to really annoy me about the game last night... bloody hell we did it a lot...

[comrade]

My other half actually asked whether I thought the players practiced it. I asked her why on earth would they do that?

God, love her.

[Number 3]

Dennis Commetti mentioned that we hit the post more than any other team a few rounds ago. Last nights effort would've made sure we stayed on top of that ladder I reckon. The best bit was when we played on from advantage and Hill (I think) hit the post, the ball got brought back, and Callan Ward's subsequent shot hit the post in almost exactly the same spot.

So yeah, they probably do practise it :)

[bornadog]

Against Geelong we hit the post twice in the last quarter, and with such a close game, it can make the difference.

[Desipura]

My other half actually asked whether I thought the players practiced it. I asked her why on earth would they do that?

God, love her.
Not as silly as it sounds. They do practise hitting a pole at training.

[LostDoggy]

I always thought they should get extra points if they hit the post. How hard would it be if you intend to do it.

[Mofra]

I always thought they should get extra points if they hit the post. How hard would it be if you intend to do it.
Was it Gilbert McAdam who first got his AFL gig by rocking up to training, dragging a wheelie bin onto the ground, then filling it with footballs he kicked into it from all sorts of angles & distances?

[chef]

Was it Gilbert McAdam who first got his AFL gig by rocking up to training, dragging a wheelie bin onto the ground, then filling it with footballs he kicked into it from all sorts of angles & distances?

Pretty sure it was his brother Adrian who played for North.

[bulldogtragic]

Was it Gilbert McAdam who first got his AFL gig by rocking up to training, dragging a wheelie bin onto the ground, then filling it with footballs he kicked into it from all sorts of angles & distances?
So the answer is to replace goal posyts with wheelie bins? :)

Fair talent ot be able to do that.

[Mofra]

Pretty sure it was his brother Adrian who played for North.
Could well have been. Not just a Motlop who has some party tricks.

[BulldogBelle]

Dogs do like doing things on posts

[bulldogtragic]

Higgins twice again tonight. FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LostDoggy]

As soon as those 2 hit the post from higgins, it reminded me of this thread..

[Go_Dogs]

Higgins twice again tonight. FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd missed this thread previously and assumed that it had been started based on that!

Very un-Higgins like.

[bornadog]

Higgins twice again tonight. FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can he hit the post running into an open goal from 20 metres out, those things can cost you.

[strebla]

It is fast becomming a nightmare for us we must surely be a mile ahead for posters this year so close yet so very far away.

[LostDoggy]

It's very annoying.

[angelopetraglia]

How can he hit the post running into an open goal from 20 metres out, those things can cost you.

Agree he should not have hit the post. But Cross was 25m directly in front. Go back and kick the goal. That was so frustrating.

Collingwood kicked a goal from that behind kick in that really hurt us. There were a number of those two goal turn arounds with us missing some very easy shots.

[boydogs]

Agree he should not have hit the post. But Cross was 25m directly in front. Go back and kick the goal. That was so frustrating.

Collingwood kicked a goal from that behind kick in that really hurt us. There were a number of those two goal turn arounds with us missing some very easy shots.

Both Cross and Higgins were in two minds - Cross is a bit like Eagleton in that he has a big windup before kicking and was worried about the player in between them coming in for a smother. I think it was closer to 40 than 25 out, which he could have kicked but not off a step. Higgins once he got the ball didn't know whether to kick the banana or drop punt - ended up kicking the drop punt but leaving it too late to settle for it properly

I think the play should have been a chip kick for Higgins to mark, I reckon that's what Aker would have done

[Sockeye Salmon]

Agree he should not have hit the post. But Cross was 25m directly in front. Go back and kick the goal. That was so frustrating.

Collingwood kicked a goal from that behind kick in that really hurt us. There were a number of those two goal turn arounds with us missing some very easy shots.

Cross would have been kicking from at least 40. Cross made the right play; a player of Higgins class simply shouldn't miss from there. Higgins turned onto his left foot but kicked with his right without balancing. Why would a player as skilled on his left as Higgins not simply kicked the goal with his left?

[Bulldog4life]

Cross would have been kicking from at least 40. Cross made the right play; a player of Higgins class simply shouldn't miss from there. Higgins turned onto his left foot but kicked with his right without balancing. Why would a player as skilled on his left as Higgins not simply kicked the goal with his left?

Exactly right SS. I was sitting very close to where that happened and I was sure that he was going to kick on his left then he suddenly turned on his right and just managed to squeeze the kick out as an opponent rushed towards him.

[bulldogtragic]

Add another 3 to the season tally.

[westdog54]

Add another 3 to the season tally.

Bugger drawn games, a shot at goal hitting the post has to be by far one of the most deflating and frustrating things for a supporter of any club. When you magnify it with the fact that were hitting the post so often in 1-2 kick results, its heartbreaking.

[The Coon Dog]

Western Bulldogs struggle to split the sticks (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25917219-19742,00.html)

Mark Stevens | August 12, 2009 12:00am

FOR the most part, an AFL goalpost is no wider than a pint glass.

The sticks start at 100mm in diameter at the bottom, tapering to 76mm at the top.

Yet the Western Bulldogs are this season doing an extraordinary job of slamming the Sherrin into the uprights.

The Bulldogs have managed 38 "posters" - 10 more than any other side.

In Saturday's five-point loss to West Coast, the Dogs hit the post three times.

When they fell a point short against Collingwood in Round 14, the Dogs kicked two posters.

And in Round 9 when they lost to Geelong by two points, they threw in another four.


Rest of article (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25917219-19742,00.html)

[GVGjr]

Anyone would think they have been reading the forum :)

[bulldogtragic]

Anyone would think they have been reading the forum :)
Hmmm. I didn't see this information referenced from WOOF... :)

[bornadog]

Hmmm. I didn't see this information referenced from WOOF... :)

Journos don't give away their sources;)

[bulldogtragic]

Journos don't give away their sources;)
Double standards. If we don't source their articles right, GVGjr gets a rocket and is forced to police every new thread with an article. GVGjr, you should be demanding to be sourced :)

i.e. "FOR the most part, an AFL goalpost is no wider than a pint glass. The sticks start at 100mm in diameter at the bottom, tapering to 76mm at the top. Yet the Western Bulldogs are this season doing an extraordinary job of slamming the Sherrin into the uprights, according to WOOF.net.au bloggers.

The Bulldogs have managed 38 "posters" - 10 more than any other side. In Saturday's five-point loss to West Coast, the Dogs hit the post three times posted 'bulldogtragic'. "


Much more accuarte :)

[LostDoggy]

Anyone would think they have been reading the forum :)

What? I don't steal from WOOF...

[LostDoggy]

Double standards. If we don't source their articles right, GVGjr gets a rocket and is forced to police every new thread with an article. GVGjr, you should be demanding to be sourced :)

i.e. "FOR the most part, an AFL goalpost is no wider than a pint glass. The sticks start at 100mm in diameter at the bottom, tapering to 76mm at the top. Yet the Western Bulldogs are this season doing an extraordinary job of slamming the Sherrin into the uprights, according to WOOF.net.au bloggers.

The Bulldogs have managed 38 "posters" - 10 more than any other side. In Saturday's five-point loss to West Coast, the Dogs hit the post three times posted 'bulldogtragic'. "


Much more accuarte :)

The amazing thing is that it's not just a feeling that we have that we are the kings of the self-destruct.. it's actually a documented stat!

[bulldogtragic]

The amazing thing is that it's not just a feeling that we have that we are the kings of the self-destruct.. it's actually a documented stat!
What happened to the rules committee making a poster 3 points. We would have won 3 games this year if that rule went through... I just realised writing that, posters have cost us 3 games this year. For F*** sake.... Win them and we are pushing for top 2. It really is a game of centimetres isn't it, that's just cruel.

[Sedat]

Win them and we are pushing for top 2. It really is a game of centimetres isn't it, that's just cruel.
We would have found a way to lose the close ones - we always do. For as long as I care to remember (save for a short but beautiful period in 2000), we are the kings of coming from behind and being pipped, or being overrun and being pipped, or just ending up on the wrong side of the ledger in a close one.

[LostDoggy]

We would have found a way to lose the close ones - we always do. For as long as I care to remember (save for a short but beautiful period in 2000), we are the kings of coming from behind and being pipped, or being overrun and being pipped, or just ending up on the wrong side of the ledger in a close one.

Yes and does anyone else feel those time keepers just sit upstairs waiting for the other to team to hit the front before blowing the siren.

[hujsh]

3 already tonight.

[LostDoggy]

FIVE, you mean. That's 25 points pissed away.

[LostDoggy]

It the lowlight of our year this year..
Hitting the post has simply cost us games this year!

[Rocco Jones]

I think of this thread every time we hit the post. Great call TCD.

[becmatty]

6 'posters' Vs Geelong - a new record? Anyone know what the most posters is for a single AFl match?

Glad we won despite this fact...

[LostDoggy]

I sent a msg to Mighty West(not sure if he got it) i think it was after qtr time saying, how many times are we gona hit the post damit, 3 already, should manage a world record tonight for sure.....

Its amazing how many times we hit it....

[Bulldog Revolution]

Tense first quarter - I wasn't pleased with the three posters in it

Should have been a lot further in front at half time

[bulldogtragic]

I hope we have had our season quota in the H&A season, just in time for finals!!!

[SonofScray]

The first 4 posters really had me worried. The scoreboard pressure you lose in those instances can hurt and I was left thinking about the Prelim where we missed a lot of shots which kicked us out of a chance.

When the momentum swings, and it always does in today game, you need that buffer. You can dominate for 20 minutes and kick 1.5 and come a cropper in 3 mins of football these days, particularly against top sides like Geelong.

Good to see Stokes hit the post late though, a bit of luck our way for a change.

Johnno and Welsh could have two goals to their names whicvh would have blown the lid off the stadium if not for the rotten goal posts!

[mighty_west]

I sent a msg to Mighty West(not sure if he got it) i think it was after qtr time saying, how many times are we gona hit the post damit, 3 already, should manage a world record tonight for sure.....

Its amazing how many times we hit it....

Yeah some crazy woman sent me some random message about hitting posts, i just deleted it....:p, nah!

It might have been Blighty, but someone was saying one time, that if you hit the post, you are pretty much getting it right with your kicking for goal being so close with your misses for goal, if you keep kicking it through the points or on the full, then you have a real problem.

For whatever reason, we kick a hell of alot of posters at the Dome, it's not wind assisted, it just has to come down to bad luck imo.

But yeah, it must be just as frustrating for the players as it is for us supporters, and like Sos stated, could have very easily lost whatever momentum we had, maybe that was part of the reason they got the momentum their way in the 3rd quarter, one of those unknowns i guess, but the luck finally went our way and we were able to hold & get back in front which was massive against a side like Geelong.

[LostDoggy]

I cant believe how often it happens with us, last night was unbelieveable, surely the odds must turn and we dont hit a post for the next 5 years...

[Happy Days]

I reckon that Murph poster would have to be poster of the year.

[bulldogtragic]

Has the poster-Karma finally turned? Dayne Beams hitting it twice in the last half of the last quarter and we sneak into 3rd by a few points.

Let's hope so.

[LostDoggy]

Has the poster-Karma finally turned? Dayne Beams hitting it twice in the last half of the last quarter and we sneak into 3rd by a few points.

Let's hope so.

Thank god!! lol
Did we even get one poster last night??

[The Coon Dog]

Thank god!! lol
Did we even get one poster last night??

Aker in the first quarter.

[LostDoggy]

Aker in the first quarter.

Ahh thats right..
At least it was'nt at a crucial part of the game!

[LostDoggy]

Against Geelong we hit the post twice in the last quarter, and with such a close game, it can make the difference.

4 times in first Q wasnt it? Against collingwood early in year.. i think missing alot early can lose ya the game also.

[strebla]

I thought the worm turned against geelong in the last quarter when they hit the post I made the comment that the worm might have turned our way we then fan away with it a little.

[bornadog]

4 times in first Q wasnt it? Against collingwood early in year.. i think missing alot early can lose ya the game also.

Have a look at the date of the post, I was talking about the first time we played Geelong, when we lost by a couple of points and hit the post twice in the last quarter.

[Ozza]

We were a bit better with posters this week - but the kicking at goal from Higgins and Murphy has been a little frustrating of late - hopefully they have got it out of their system for the finals.

[Twodogs]

It'd be great if they bought in a rule that if it hits the post and goes goalside it's a goal, if it goes behind it's a point and if it bounces back it's play on.


I really like that rule from the preseason comp.

[The Coon Dog]

It'd be great if they bought in a rule that if it hits the post and goes goalside it's a goal, if it goes behind it's a point and if it bounces back it's play on.


I really like that rule from the preseason comp.

So, you're level when the final siren goes & are taking a shot from 40 metres out to win the Grand Final.

You have 21 metres to aim at; 7, 7 & 7.

All you need is a point to win!

In you come, hit it sweetly, it starts veering offline & cannons into the goal post only to bounce back into the field of play! :eek:

[Twodogs]

So, you're level when the final siren goes & are taking a shot from 40 metres out to win the Grand Final.

You have 21 metres to aim at; 7, 7 & 7.

All you need is a point to win!

In you come, hit it sweetly, it starts veering offline & cannons into the goal post only to bounce back into the field of play! :eek:



Rugby league and Rugby Union cope with it quite nicely. If a bunch of meatheads like that can get their brain around it we should be able to!:D

[The Coon Dog]

Rugby league and Rugby Union cope with it quite nicely. If a bunch of meatheads like that can get their brain around it we should be able to!:D

But they don't have an additional 7 metres each side of the goal posts that count as a score as we do.

[hujsh]

If it was a point for hitting the post and a goal for hitting the post and going through the goals i could accept that.

[bornadog]

Rugby league and Rugby Union cope with it quite nicely. If a bunch of meatheads like that can get their brain around it we should be able to!:D

yes throw out 100 plus years of doing it one way to completely change the game

[Sockeye Salmon]

It'd be great if they bought in a rule that if it hits the post and goes goalside it's a goal, if it goes behind it's a point and if it bounces back it's play on.


I really like that rule from the preseason comp.

Cool, another ****ing rule change.

Just what we need.



If they change any more rules I want it to be changing back the one's they've ****ed up!

[bornadog]

Cool, another ****ing rule change.

Just what we need.



If they change any more rules I want it to be changing back the one's they've ****ed up!

You mean all of them;)

[bulldogtragic]

Aker's poster in the last would have been very handy...

[angelopetraglia]

And Lake's in the last quarter too. Vital time as well.

[westdog54]

Rugby league and Rugby Union cope with it quite nicely. If a bunch of meatheads like that can get their brain around it we should be able to!:D

Its usually the smaller, smarter, faster blokes that kick for goal in rugby. Don't see too many big blokes getting anywhere near the post.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Its usually the smaller, smarter, faster blokes that kick for goal in rugby. Don't see too many big blokes getting anywhere near the post.

John Eales?

[LostDoggy]

John Eales?

John Eales was a smart man wrapped in a little man wrapped in a huge man.

Can't use him in an argument; he is the rare example of "the exception to every rule" phenomenon.

Rule: "I thought all Rugby Union players were feckheads?"
Exception: "Not John Eales."

[LostDoggy]

Easy fix have the guys aim for the post and that way they will miss that and kick it though for a goal (one would hope) but knowing us it would more likely hit the point post on the full insted.

[westdog54]

John Eales?

John Eales was the finest player to pull on a wallaby #5 jumper in the history of rugby. Once in a lifetime player.

[bulldogtragic]

I hope this thread has no more additions to it this weekend.

[bulldogtragic]

16 posters so far this year, nearly one every half. Would be nice to tighten this up a bit. The positive I guess is we are not missing by much.

[GVGjr]

16 posters so far this year, nearly one every half. Would be nice to tighten this up a bit. The positive I guess is we are not missing by much.

So nearly 2 per game, it doesn't appear to be a big number.

[bulldogtragic]

So nearly 2 per game, it doesn't appear to be a big number.

No, not really. Although they’ve all come in rounds 3-9 (2.6 per game). A few very gettable goals missed. The good news is that despite being the number one attack in the league, a bit more care makes us even more dangerous.

[Twodogs]

No, not really. Although they’ve all come in rounds 3-9 (2.6 per game). A few very gettable goals missed. The good news is that despite being the number one attack in the league, a bit more care makes us even more dangerous.

First time I went to the SCG there was a couple of locals sitting in front of us. We hit the post and one of them said to the other "you get 7 points when that happens" My dear old late dad who never saw an opportunity to start an argument that he didn't welcome leant forward and said " *!*!*!*!ing bulltish it is. It's only 1 point" and then spent the following 15 minutes in fierce discussion until someone else leant over and said "oh for God's sake will you just point out the scoreboard to them and stop bickering about it!"

[Twodogs]

I personally think there should be no such thing as hit the post. If the ball hits the post goalside then it's a goal, if it hits the post on the pointside then it's a behind and if it bounces back into play then it's play on.

We should also replay the 1997 preliminary final.

[jeemak]

I personally think there should be no such thing as hit the post. If the ball hits the post goalside then it's a goal, if it hits the post on the pointside then it's a behind and if it bounces back into play then it's play on.

We should also replay the 1997 preliminary final.

What happens when the ball goes over the post? Split the difference?

[Twodogs]

What happens when the ball goes over the post? Split the difference?

Umpire's call. Or have one of those rucks like they have in Rugby Union.

[bornadog]

Umpire's call. Or have one of those rucks like they have in Rugby Union.

Leave it as it is, can't see the issue

[Twodogs]

Leave it as it is, can't see the issue


https://youtu.be/p8n37eLPBXA

Gee I dunno why...

[jeemak]

But if that was umpires call it would have been a point anyway.

[GVGjr]

I can recall going to a training session (remember those?) years ago when we first drafted Nathan Brown and one of the drills was for the players to run, scoop up the ball and from about 20 to 25mtrs hit a little league sized goal post. Brown did it 3 times in a row and I reckon he missed the 4th attempt by a whisker.

He needed a *!*!*!*!ing hair cut badly by the way

[westdog54]

I personally think there should be no such thing as hit the post. If the ball hits the post goalside then it's a goal, if it hits the post on the pointside then it's a behind and if it bounces back into play then it's play on.

We should also replay the 1997 preliminary final.

If we didn't have behinds as well as goals I would agree with you.

I don't think it is fair that you end up with no score for a kick that gets closer to the goal.

[westdog54]

I can recall going to a training session (remember those?) years ago when we first drafted Nathan Brown and one of the drills was for the players to run, scoop up the ball and from about 20 to 25mtrs hit a little league sized goal post. Brown did it 3 times in a row and I reckon he missed the 4th attempt by a whisker.

He needed a *!*!*!*!ing hair cut badly by the way

That was a *!*!*!*!ing horrendous hair style.

[GVGjr]

That was a *!*!*!*!ing horrendous hair style.

Wasn't he nicknamed M Bop?

[hujsh]

I personally think there should be no such thing as hit the post. If the ball hits the post goalside then it's a goal, if it hits the post on the pointside then it's a behind and if it bounces back into play then it's play on.

We should also replay the 1997 preliminary final.

I'd think the easiest way to do that is that if it goes through the goals it doesn't matter if it hit the post (unless it's above the post I guess) and is a goal while if it hits the post and doesn't go through for a goal then it's a point.

No need for 'Snicko' or a long drawn out review just a pretty simple decision.

Though the question would then arise what if the ball hits the post, bounces on the field and then back through the goals somehow... My heart says point. But if it's a dribble kick that continues momentum through the goals and hits the ground then goal?

[bulldogtragic]

Two more to half time.

Edit: a third for #19 now in 8 weeks

[bulldogtragic]

Four tonight.

20 posters in 8 weeks.

[Twodogs]

I can recall going to a training session (remember those?) years ago when we first drafted Nathan Brown and one of the drills was for the players to run, scoop up the ball and from about 20 to 25mtrs hit a little league sized goal post. Brown did it 3 times in a row and I reckon he missed the 4th attempt by a whisker.

He needed a *!*!*!*!ing hair cut badly by the way

I was there when that happened too. You're right it was a *!*!*!*!ing horrendous haircut.

[I'm Not Bitter Anymore!]

https://youtu.be/p8n37eLPBXA

Gee I dunno why...
Needs a trigger warning

[bulldogtragic]

Amazing Stat

We are already #1 for attack. Imagine a few of those actually go through too. That should be the scary thing for oppositions, we’ve got a heap of good players coming back soon and areas of improvement. We are not in top gear yet as a club.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

We are already #1 for attack. Imagine a few of those actually go through too. That should be the scary thing for oppositions, we’ve got a heap of good players coming back soon and areas of improvement. We are not in top gear yet as a club.

Mclean should be getting some games at Footscray soon. He might be available post bye. I reckon he might be itching to catch up for lost time.

[bulldogtragic]

Two more tonight.