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The Coon Dog
12-04-2010, 02:34 AM
Mark Stevens - Herald Sun - 12 April

WESTERN Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade was in no mood last night to celebrate a slogging win against Hawthorn, instead he took aim at his own players.

Perennial whipping boys Will Minson and Brian Lake were in the gun as Eade lamented poor decision-making and disposal in the Dogs' 16-point victory at Etihad Stadium.

For the second time in three weeks, Minson gave away a 50m penalty and goal with a basic mistake. He also missed a set shot from 25m at a key stage of the third term.

"He might need a stint at Williamstown - that's where it's headed with Will, to be honest," Eade said.

Article in full... (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/send-will-minson-to-williamstown-rodney-eade/story-e6frf9jf-1225852501802)

chef
12-04-2010, 06:48 AM
I didn't think he played that badly:o.

But I wouldn't be disappointed to see Roughie get a run next week.

Cyberdoggie
12-04-2010, 09:22 AM
He improved towards the end of the game but made some terrible mistakes once again.

I've always been a huge fan of Minson's but i'm getting tired of the amount of stupid free kicks he gives away.

Ozza
12-04-2010, 09:29 AM
Can understand the frustration - but I'd much rather big Will played this week. His second half was good yesterday - and if he had have kicked that 3rd quarter goal - it would have been a very good half for him. His actual ruckwork has been good - and he was involved in a few of our scores yesterday.

I think Rocket may have used the media to give him a rev up, or a warning perhaps. Would be surprised if he was dropped.

LostDoggy
12-04-2010, 10:12 AM
I dont think Brisbane at the Gabba is a good choice, would have been better to play Roughy against the Hawks or Richmond. Brisbane are looking good at the moment and should be a big test up there.
I actually thought Wills running and efforts were his best this year by far.
I thought Lake was great, did his job on Buddy perfectly.

Mantis
12-04-2010, 12:38 PM
I heard Rocket on SEN this morning and he just re-iterated these thoughts by saying that he was disappointed the same players make the same errors week after week and in doing so are going against the coaching staffs instructions.

Go_Dogs
12-04-2010, 03:39 PM
I heard Rocket on SEN this morning and he just re-iterated these thoughts by saying that he was disappointed the same players make the same errors week after week and in doing so are going against the coaching staffs instructions.

So, Brian Lake is in the gun this week? :p

alwaysadog
12-04-2010, 03:48 PM
OK so pressure built up in the Rocket and he did what he so often does, lets off steam. But very few of these have in the past turned into action in terms of positions in the side.


IMHO what this should be interpreted as is the coach saying you two seem immune to a good bake but this has got beyond a joke and I want you to act on this immediately so I'm going to try a spot of public humiliation. Rocket knows how to get to both of them so we'll have to see if this tactic works.

While both were responsible for acts I'm sure they regret, they also both contributed well at times and we shouldn't fall for the trap of blaming them for the very erratic performance of the team so far this season.

That problem lies elsewhere and needs even more urgent attention.

The Underdog
12-04-2010, 03:57 PM
My main concern would be that although Roughead was good for willy, he also spent most of the 2nd half in the ruck and looked stuffed by the end. I'd be slightly concerned about his recovery from that going into a game in Brisbane. I think it is unlikely Minson will be dropped but Eade is certainly sending him a very clear message.
I also thought that 50m was pretty harsh to be honest. He does some stupid stuff but he barely encroached on this occasion.

bornadog
12-04-2010, 04:20 PM
I think it is unlikely Minson will be dropped but Eade is certainly sending him a very clear message.
I also thought that 50m was pretty harsh to be honest. He does some stupid stuff but he barely encroached on this occasion.

Stupid 50m penalty, umpires give no leeway at all. Minson won't be dropped at this stage.

comrade
12-04-2010, 04:30 PM
The tiggy touch wood 50M penalty for creeping over the mark is one of the more frustrating rule interpretations in the game, but players know that umpires are red hot on it. Will really should have done better, particularly after giving one away against Collingwood. It was funny seeing him throw his head back; you could see him think “S*** I’ve done it again. Rocket’s going to KILL me”.

I must admite at half time, I was thinking that Roughy should come in, but big Will’s second half was much better; he ran hard to space a number of times and was important in opening up the play ahead of him.

He’ll always be a player that makes mistakes. We just have to hope that the bad stuff (free kicks against, iron hands, shanked kicks) isn’t bad enough to outweigh the good stuff (deft ruck taps, big ruck spikes, physicality).

bornadog
12-04-2010, 04:34 PM
The tiggy touch wood 50M penalty for creeping over the mark is one of the more frustrating rule interpretations in the game, but players know that umpires are red hot on it. Will really should have done better, particularly after giving one away against Collingwood. It was funny seeing him throw his head back; you could see him think “S*** I’ve done it again. Rocket’s going to KILL me”.

I must admite at half time, I was thinking that Roughy should come in, but big Will’s second half was much better; he ran hard to space a number of times and was important in opening up the play ahead of him.

He’ll always be a player that makes mistakes. We just have to hope that the bad stuff (free kicks against, iron hands, shanked kicks) isn’t bad enough to outweigh the good stuff (deft ruck taps, big ruck spikes, physicality).

I love the pass to Hahn, I thought he was going to have a ping at goals but delivered a nice pass resulting in a goal.

Swoop
12-04-2010, 05:20 PM
I believe Rocket is using the media to send a clear message to Will, obviously his original subtle message after Round 1 was not effective and therefore he has made a blunt & honest assessment.

Eade has put the pressure on Big Will publicly and now Minson is fully aware of where he stands. I'm confident Minson will play this weekend against Brisbane but clearly Eade is sending him a clear & strong final warning, either lift your game or you'll find yourself at Williamstown.

We all know different players react to different motivations and hopefully this acts as a wake up call, I personally am confident Minson will respond well through his actions and this tactic will serve it's desired purpose.

On the flip side, it also encourages Roughead at Williamstown who all of a sudden realises an AFL birth isn't that far away and it's important for him to perform and ensure he is considered accordingly.

Mofra
13-04-2010, 10:37 AM
On the flip side, it also encourages Roughead at Williamstown who all of a sudden realises an AFL birth isn't that far away and it's important for him to perform and ensure he is considered accordingly.
This is the other side of the coin - two birds cooked with the one Rocket bake.
I do remember Hahn getting dropped a couple of years back then responding well so I'm not sure Rocket's public spray is merely an empty threat, however I think Minson has a couple of credits in the bank for this week.

Stefcep
13-04-2010, 12:14 PM
Never agreed with coaches criticising players in the media. Puts unneccessary pressure on the player, and comes across as unprofessional. Keep it in house, doesn't need to be made public.

The Coon Dog
13-04-2010, 12:30 PM
Never agreed with coaches criticising players in the media. Puts unneccessary pressure on the player, and comes across as unprofessional. Keep it in house, doesn't need to be made public.

I reckon Rocket would have a better idea of what does & doesn't work than you & me, afterall he's with these guys 6 days a week.

Desipura
13-04-2010, 12:35 PM
I reckon Rocket would have a better idea of what does & doesn't work than you & me, afterall he's with these guys 6 days a week.
Have to agree with this, Eade would know who can respond to public criticism. Is it any coincedence that we have another crucial game this week?

Stefcep
13-04-2010, 12:46 PM
I reckon Rocket would have a better idea of what does & doesn't work than you & me, afterall he's with these guys 6 days a week.

Yeah he knows the players, no doubt.

Lake's been doing moronic things in terms of decision making for about 4-5 years, and he even jokes about it in the media. Lake is still doing moronic things, so how has it "worked"?

IMO its a matter of taking the good with the bad with both Minson (BTW the 50 was as soft as I've ever seen) and Lake. They'll still have their fair share of brain fades, media critcism or not. Its just the sort of players they are.

But making it a media statement sure keeps the attention away from the poor 3 weeks the whole team has had...

westbulldog
13-04-2010, 09:22 PM
All players have the occasional clanger, so what. Will Minson is an emerging ruckman of quality and dropping him would be a mistake. Brian Lake is the best fullback in the country......period.

Desipura
14-04-2010, 09:06 AM
All players have the occasional clanger, so what. Will Minson is an emerging ruckman of quality and dropping him would be a mistake. Brian Lake is the best fullback in the country......period.

No disrespect to Minson, however I did not think he will ever be a quality ruckman, more workmanlike. I do not believe he has much more upside to his game. Agree that he should not get dropped for this weeks game.

macca
14-04-2010, 08:59 PM
Minson played against Brent Renouf, come on, really he should have had it all over him in the first half. Second half, Renouf was exhausted. Minson still has a long way to play 4 quarters of consistent footy. Maybe a spell at Willy will remind him how much further he has to go.