View Full Version : Bulldogs reach a compromise with their unrepantant veteran
Mantis
02-06-2010, 12:49 PM
I am not normally a fan of Caro's work, but this one made for interesting reading...
CAROLINE WILSON
June 2, 2010
Having realised they were dealing with a delusional and unrepentant footballer, the Western Bulldogs yesterday reached a compromise with Jason Akermanis - the footballer they know could have derailed their season and might yet help save it.
Deep in their hearts, experienced campaigners Campbell Rose, James Fantasia and Rodney Eade knew they could still be headed on a collision course with the 33-year-old, whose media commitments yesterday proved too compelling and lucrative to abandon, despite the fact his teammates had looked him in the eye and asked him to do so.
So the three - who were tellingly joined by industrial employment expert and former club president Peter Gordon to thrash out some of the more sensitive aspects of the compromise arrangement - chose the path of least resistance.
Click Link (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bulldogs-reach-a-compromise-with-their-unrepentant-veteran-20100601-wv9m.html) for rest of article.
dadsgirl16
02-06-2010, 01:34 PM
the comments from the punters are more interesting!
LostDoggy
02-06-2010, 02:44 PM
How is Aker delusional? Because he's not spitting the corporate AFL and Club line? Or is it because his view is different to Caro's?
It's quite obvious that Aker doesn't care what people think about his views, and that's why I love the bloke, right or wrong…
The Underdog
02-06-2010, 04:45 PM
How is Aker delusional? Because he's not spitting the corporate AFL and Club line? Or is it because his view is different to Caro's?
It's quite obvious that Aker doesn't care what people think about his views, and that's why I love the bloke, right or wrong…
He's also quite clearly demonstrated that he doesn't care what his teammates or administration think. I think he's been a valuable addition to our club since we took him on and overall done what he's been asked until now but he's clearly shown that he views himself as more important than the team.
Ghost Dog
02-06-2010, 05:15 PM
He's also quite clearly demonstrated that he doesn't care what his teammates or administration think. I think he's been a valuable addition to our club since we took him on and overall done what he's been asked until now but he's clearly shown that he views himself as more important than the team.
I think this is a slight exageration. Don't we all value ourselves more than our employers? Anybody who said they didn't would be lying. He obviously does value his team mates and they value him, to the degree that people in a sports club do. What would you have him do? he was asked to write the article. Wasn't his idea.
Anyway, If he was kicking heaps of goals, nobody would care.
Caroline Wilson is the old cranky high school teacher of sports journalism.
Remember her rants on Ben cousins and Barry Hall / B. Fevola?
Loves to wag the finger does Mrs Wilson and play the moralist.
will be an interesting change when she writes about something that happens ON field.
alwaysadog
02-06-2010, 05:30 PM
He's also quite clearly demonstrated that he doesn't care what his teammates or administration think. I think he's been a valuable addition to our club since we took him on and overall done what he's been asked until now but he's clearly shown that he views himself as more important than the team.
I don't think Caro gets the point and I think you might have missed it as well.
Yesterday everybody gave a bit of ground, that's what mature people do.
Nobody did the childish take it or leave it stuff, or the equally silly drawing of lines in the sand. In fact they worked on a win-win solution and in the end they showed the maturity and personal resources to maintain their focus on the football team and what Aker had to do to make a further contribution to it rather than on personalities or the multitude of supposed indiscretions committed or omitted.
They got a solution that doesn't make great headlines and doesn't play into the media crisis scenario. No doubt that doesn't go down well with those who built it up in their usually immature manner. Yet again the sky hasn't fallen on Cock Robin.
It should have also put to bed the idea that Aker has played his last game for the dogs, but that's too sophisticated an understanding for some of the scribblers to understand especially those who sensationalised the matter and now have more egg on their already well covered visages.
Given that Aker earns more money off the football field if he had quit yesterday in high dudgeon, and really disrupted our season he would have been able to cash in big on the notoriety. So I can't see how not having done this can be represented as contemptuous of either the club or his team mates, rather the converse.
alwaysadog
02-06-2010, 05:37 PM
I am not normally a fan of Caro's work, but this one made for interesting reading...
CAROLINE WILSON
June 2, 2010
Having realised they were dealing with a delusional and unrepentant footballer, the Western Bulldogs yesterday reached a compromise with Jason Akermanis - the footballer they know could have derailed their season and might yet help save it.
Deep in their hearts, experienced campaigners Campbell Rose, James Fantasia and Rodney Eade knew they could still be headed on a collision course with the 33-year-old, whose media commitments yesterday proved too compelling and lucrative to abandon, despite the fact his teammates had looked him in the eye and asked him to do so.
So the three - who were tellingly joined by industrial employment expert and former club president Peter Gordon to thrash out some of the more sensitive aspects of the compromise arrangement - chose the path of least resistance.
Click Link (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bulldogs-reach-a-compromise-with-their-unrepentant-veteran-20100601-wv9m.html) for rest of article.
I don't see this as other than typical Caro, she has egg all over her face and so she has cobble together another explanation of events which accuses us of taking a convenient rather than a principled line, because she is never wrong and everybody else is.
azabob
02-06-2010, 05:49 PM
He's also quite clearly demonstrated that he doesn't care what his teammates or administration think. I think he's been a valuable addition to our club since we took him on and overall done what he's been asked until now but he's clearly shown that he views himself as more important than the team.
I agree with you Underdog.
His first year at the club got off to a rocky start, hopefully his last doesnt end the same way.
He's also quite clearly demonstrated that he doesn't care what his teammates or administration think. I think he's been a valuable addition to our club since we took him on and overall done what he's been asked until now but he's clearly shown that he views himself as more important than the team.
Agree with this.
LostDoggy
02-06-2010, 06:13 PM
I'll bet cash money that Aker knows a thing or two more about being professional and a 'team player' (you don't win bests-and-fairests and the like otherwise) than poor old media sourpuss "no one likes me so I'll pretend not to care" Caroline Wilson.
How she can write such speculative rubbish with such conviction -- and you bet your ass it's speculative, she hasn't actually spoken to anyone who's anyone in this story -- boggles the mind.
azabob
02-06-2010, 06:32 PM
I'll bet cash money that Aker knows a thing or two more about being professional and a 'team player' (you don't win bests-and-fairests and the like otherwise) than poor old media sourpuss "no one likes me so I'll pretend not to care" Caroline Wilson.
How she can write such speculative rubbish with such conviction -- and you bet your ass it's speculative, she hasn't actually spoken to anyone who's anyone in this story -- boggles the mind.
Certainly is interesting. Clearly she doesn't like Akermanis but I'm not sure Akermanis has acted very professionally this time around. Ps is cashmoneya wire referance?
FrediKanoute
02-06-2010, 07:27 PM
Given that Aker earns more money off the football field if he had quit yesterday in high dudgeon, and really disrupted our season he would have been able to cash in big on the notoriety. So I can't see how not having done this can be represented as contemptuous of either the club or his team mates, rather the converse.
This is the double edged sword we created last season. We wanted Aker to go around one more year because based on his 2009 final series he represented a valuable part fo our side. The problem was with the need to re-sign Lake there was simlply bugger all left in the kitty hence we had to relinquish some control over his media pieces.
Personally I don't think there was anything too bad in what Aker wrote. I think its been seized upon by overzealous political correctness junkies and been made into a mountain.
The main issue I have with Aker's conduct surrounds the allegations that the piece was doctored by the HS, but was subsequently found not to be. That is a pretty big breach of trust.
Mantis
02-06-2010, 08:15 PM
How she can write such speculative rubbish with such conviction -- and you bet your ass it's speculative, she hasn't actually spoken to anyone who's anyone in this story -- boggles the mind.
Why would she put her name to such 'speculative rubbish', if she is wrong she would lose credibility? (insert she has none now if you wish)
I like a bet, so I will bet my ass against your's that she wouldn't have written such a piece unless had some idea of what happened behind the closed doors at the WO over the past few days.
Ghost Dog
02-06-2010, 08:46 PM
Wilson has a personal Axe to grind.
See the following headlines in days gone by
Time for Dogs to axe Aka
CAROLINE WILSON
May 30, 2010
'Aker shouldn't play on' 3AW (http://www.3aw.com.au/)
A week to forget for a sad, bitter champion
Caroline Wilson | May 24, 2009
maniacal narcissist ( Wilson 2005 )
divisive and destructive ( Wilson 2009 )
Also see the following
Tainted Fevola's victims pile up
4 Mar 2010 ... CAROLINE WILSON. March 4, 2010
Sheedy living on borrowed time
CAROLINE WILSON
May 16, 2010
Sneaky AFL acts shamelessly
CAROLINE WILSON
February 21, 2010
Rumours of secret deals
CAROLINE WILSON
February 17, 2010
Look at the kind of language she uses? She sees herself as the moral overseer of the AFL. Tends to attack the man, not the ball.
Go and watch Akers highlights reel on youtube. It throws light on how silly her comments are to Axe a brownlow medalist who is down on his form ( Ricky ponting, Micheal Slater, tell me an athlete that has not gone through this?
Topdog
02-06-2010, 09:24 PM
Why would she put her name to such 'speculative rubbish', if she is wrong she would lose credibility? (insert she has none now if you wish)
I like a bet, so I will bet my ass against your's that she wouldn't have written such a piece unless had some idea of what happened behind the closed doors at the WO over the past few days.
I'm not going to pretend that I have any idea what has happened over the last week but it wouldn't be the first (or last for that matter) that Caro has written an article without talking to anybody at the club.
Mantis
02-06-2010, 09:46 PM
I'm not going to pretend that I have any idea what has happened over the last week but it wouldn't be the first (or last for that matter) that Caro has written an article without talking to anybody at the club.
Look I don't follow much of Caro's work, mainly due to the fact that she reports on Richmond & Carlton a whole lot and I tend to not waste my time reading about clubs I have no care about. However on this issue I care because she is writing about a subject I have an interest in and as such would take offence if I thought she had written a whole heap of garbage.
Personally I don't think she would have written such a piece unless she had some idea about she was talking about, but I guess we may not know the full story for some time, perhaps never. But I guess Aker will be retiring in 3 or 4 months time so I guess we may find out his version of the story shortly after his departure from the club.
LostDoggy
02-06-2010, 10:07 PM
Why don't I read C. Wilson? Coz She's an opinionated old Tart!!!!!!!!! Have you ever played the game? Have a Chardoney and write some crap about anyone who has any opinion different to you.
C.W. I have no idea how you could be a Major sport writer. I never read your articles coz I hear your dribble on Monday night's
Ghost Dog
02-06-2010, 10:13 PM
Why don't I read C. Wilson? Coz She's an opinionated old Tart!!!!!!!!! Have you ever played the game? Have a Chardoney and write some crap about anyone who has any opinion different to you.
C.W. I have no idea how you could be a Major sport writer. I never read your articles coz I hear your dribble on Monday night's
Hear Hear
Mantis
02-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Why don't I read C. Wilson? Coz She's an opinionated old Tart!!!!!!!!! Have you ever played the game? Have a Chardoney and write some crap about anyone who has any opinion different to you.
C.W. I have no idea how you could be a Major sport writer. I never read your articles coz I hear your dribble on Monday night's
That post is an embarrassment to this forum.
The Coon Dog
02-06-2010, 10:16 PM
That post is an embarrassment to this forum.
I agree, its as though it was written by someone on the piss.
GVGjr
02-06-2010, 10:21 PM
Why don't I read C. Wilson? Coz She's an opinionated old Tart!!!!!!!!! Have you ever played the game? Have a Chardoney and write some crap about anyone who has any opinion different to you.
C.W. I have no idea how you could be a Major sport writer. I never read your articles coz I hear your dribble on Monday night's
There is no need to write comments like that.
Why don't I read C. Wilson? Coz She's an opinionated old Tart!!!!!!!!! Have you ever played the game? Have a Chardoney and write some crap about anyone who has any opinion different to you.
C.W. I have no idea how you could be a Major sport writer. I never read your articles coz I hear your dribble on Monday night's
Does that matter?
Her father has involved with Richmond so she might have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
alwaysadog
02-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Does that matter?
Her father has involved with Richmond so she might have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
I agree that it doesn't matter but football knowledge is neither constant nor is it inherited with one's genes, and as far as Richmond being a font of football knowledge, well if that equates with success it's running on empty.
Scorlibo
03-06-2010, 02:56 PM
The relentless personal bias Wilson includes in her articles is amazing. Most of the time, as with this particular piece of verbal diarrhea, I stop reading after the first few lines and remind myself of who wrote it.
I have no idea how she has survived under the guise of a football journalist for so long, without ever writing anything to do with the game. The type of moralistic garbage she comes out with could be written towards just about any professional organisation in the country, and yet she is said to be a specialist AFL journalist? I sometimes wonder whether the whole Sam Newman fiasco has given her immunity from criticism. In any case the fact that no one wants to talk to her says a lot about the dwindling respect towards her in the football community.
ledge
03-06-2010, 03:47 PM
Biggest laugh I have on Caro is last year when she said Richmond would not sack Wallace during the season, always on the claim of inside knowledge but she probably gets it right as much as any football fan would.
Most is just her opinions, doesnt go out and find any news at all.
At least Hutchy and Sheahan get out there and try and find out whats going on and bring stories to the table of some substance.
ledge
03-06-2010, 03:53 PM
There is no need to write comments like that.
Can I ask why GVGjr, its his opinion (yes its strong)as we all have opinions, wrong or right.
Or is it the name calling "tart"?
Sockeye Salmon
03-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Didn't Caro write something at one stage last year and Rocket had a crack at her about it. It came out she had not once set foot at the Whitten Oval for the season up until that point.
I remember Rocket saying something like "when was the last time you crossed the bridge?" and she hadn't.
ledge
03-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Didn't Caro write something at one stage last year and Rocket had a crack at her about it. It came out she had not once set foot at the Whitten Oval for the season up until that point.
I remember Rocket saying something like "when was the last time you crossed the bridge?" and she hadn't.
Yes it put her in her place.
Mantis
03-06-2010, 04:11 PM
At least Hutchy and Sheahan get out there and try and find out whats going on and bring stories to the table of some substance.
So do you think what she stated in this article was made up?
The Underdog
03-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Don't we all value ourselves more than our employers? Anybody who said they didn't would be lying. He obviously does value his team mates and they value him, to the degree that people in a sports club do. What would you have him do? he was asked to write the article. Wasn't his idea.
Anyway, If he was kicking heaps of goals, nobody would care.
Yes but I'd argue that in the area of professional football, team building is important (whereas in most workplaces it's a pile of rubbish). Aker clearly puts himself before the team at most points. I assume you would have been quite happy with Nathan Brown leaving to go to Richmond for more money, because while he valued his team mates, he clearly valued himself more. Unless of course, this is more than just any old business.
He may not have been asked to write the article but he also wasn't asked to make it more inflammatory after the club had signed off on it and then lie to them about it either.
I don't think Caro gets the point and I think you might have missed it as well.
Yesterday everybody gave a bit of ground, that's what mature people do.
Nobody did the childish take it or leave it stuff, or the equally silly drawing of lines in the sand. In fact they worked on a win-win solution and in the end they showed the maturity and personal resources to maintain their focus on the football team and what Aker had to do to make a further contribution to it rather than on personalities or the multitude of supposed indiscretions committed or omitted.
Given that Aker earns more money off the football field if he had quit yesterday in high dudgeon, and really disrupted our season he would have been able to cash in big on the notoriety. So I can't see how not having done this can be represented as contemptuous of either the club or his team mates, rather the converse.
I'm fine with the outcome, what did concern me was Aker going on radio that morning and claiming he wasn't going to change and didn't know what he'd done wrong. If he didn't know by that point, he never was and if he'd been asked by the leadership group to cut the media stuff the day before then he was taking the mick by being there in the first place.
Topdog
03-06-2010, 05:02 PM
Can I ask why GVGjr, its his opinion (yes its strong)as we all have opinions, wrong or right.
Or is it the name calling "tart"?
I don't think the hours of work that G put into getting this site up and running was so that people could just write hateful rants that don't add anything to any discussion.
ledge
03-06-2010, 05:28 PM
So do you think what she stated in this article was made up?
She is an opinion reporter more than a go out and get reporter, made up to the point its her opinion and could, might be, maybe right sort of journalist.
ledge
03-06-2010, 05:32 PM
I don't think the hours of work that G put into getting this site up and running was so that people could just write hateful rants that don't add anything to any discussion.
Well its certainly added to the discussion of what we think of the reporter who wrote it.:D
Maybe a new thread should be started on reporters who are regarded as good or bad journalists.
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