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Hotdog60
19-09-2010, 08:25 AM
Dylan Addison - 5
Was good early, keeping Sam Gilbert honest and booting a second-term goal to give his side further impetus. Like his team, faded after the break ... broken ribs can do that to people. No-one can question his commitment.

Matthew Boyd - 6
As always, Boyd put his body in those places most of us wouldn’t and won a lot of the ball. But he also turned it over more than usual, including an awful handball in the second quarter that gifted Adam Schneider a goal. Still among his side’s best.

Daniel Cross - 7
Was opposed to Nick Dal Santo early and was making a decent fist of that before continuing to roll through the midfield match-ups. Threw his body in until the final minutes despite the game being dusted, and finished with 22 touches.

Nathan Eagleton - 3
Lacked his usual zip and missed some targets in what was likely to be his final game of AFL footy. A disappointing farewell for the veteran.

Daniel Giansiracusa - 3
Had just three disposals at the main break. Did lift a little and kicked a late goal but the Dogs needed more from one of their most experienced stars. Credit to Sean Dempster, though.

Lindsay Gilbee - 5
Gilbee started in attack and spent most of the night there. He was rarely able to find the space to use his sublime kicking skills, however, with the Saints flooding numbers back. Did kick a nice goal in the third quarter.

Jarrad Grant - 5
Kicked a terrific goal in the first term after running from half-back to get on the end of it, but despite his big engine his slight frame struggled against the might of the Saints’ defence.

Ryan Griffen - 6
Griffen ended up among his team’s chief ballwinners but his effectiveness was thwarted by Clint Jones. He had five inside 50s although the Saints were quick to shut down his space.

Mitch Hahn - 5
The late call-up for Andrew Hooper started brightly and looked as though coach Rodney Eade’s decision might prove a masterstroke. Booted the game’s first and last goals, but in between some of his kicking had Dogs fans closing their eyes.

Barry Hall - 3
Barry really never had a chance. While beaten by Zac Dawson, he was surrounded by Saints at times and the ball never came in quickly in a one-on-one situation. He did manage a late goal and should have done better from his four shots at the sticks.

Jarrod Harbrow - 7
Provided run, won contests and was elusive from the back and through the middle. Like Gary Ablett the previous evening, attention will now turn to whether the Gold Coast target has played his last match for the Dogs.

Ryan Hargrave - 6
Spent his night on a variety of St Kilda’s small forwards and did pretty well in his duels. Was seen in the vicinity of Brett Peake when he booted his third-term goal, but racked up 24 touches and tried hard.

Ben Hudson - 4
Not one of Huddo’s best nights. He’s not a centre-bounce specialist but is usually able to assert himself around the stoppages more. The Saints did a good job nullifying him after a long year for the reliable Bulldog.

Brad Johnson - 4
Johnno looked lively early before fading as the Saints got on top. However, his 364th AFL match will be remembered as the night he bowed out. He was given a fitting farewell, chaired off by teammates through a guard of honour by both teams.

Brian Lake - 6
Lake absolutely dominated across the Dogs’ full-back line in the first half, but the storm was coming. Kosi booted a couple on him and the wounded Dog, who has been battling injury for weeks, finished the night on the pine.

Will Minson - 3
Big Will had more hit-outs than any other ruckman, helping his side break even in the clearances. But he was unable to get his hands on the footy or do anything really constructive.

Dale Morris - 5
Started on Stephen Milne and when Tom Williams got too sore and was being beaten up, went to the champ Nick Riewoldt. Did okay but wins massive points purely for returning after breaking his back a month ago. Chuck Norris was seen applauding his toughness from the MCG stands.

Robert Murphy - 4
Another one orthopaedic surgeons are eagerly eyeing. Started in defence and was shifted between roles after injuring his troublesome knee. Had minimal impact.

Liam Picken - 7
Ran with Brendon Goddard and did a great job early before the bigger fish stamped his authority. But Picken’s toughness inspired his team. He also kicked a great goal late in the first term.

Callan Ward - 9
Super game from the emerging star, who is only just getting going after injury ruined his start to 2010. Finished with 30 touches including 17 contested (more than anyone on the ground) and eight clearances.

Tom Williams - 4
Went into the match sore and then went head-to-head with Riewoldt. That was going to end badly. Was good early and fought bravely, but class prevailed with Riewoldt proving the matchwinner.

Easton Wood - 5
Like Addison, played the second half with broken ribs - perhaps a result of the big hit he laid on Justin Koschitzke early in the second term. Played on a number of St Kilda small forwards and did okay.

LINK (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/102847/default.aspx)

Hotdog60
19-09-2010, 08:29 AM
Callan Ward - 9
Super game from the emerging star, who is only just getting going after injury ruined his start to 2010. Finished with 30 touches including 17 contested (more than anyone on the ground) and eight clearances.


I hope he can have a great pre season and have the endurance with his body like Crossy.

FrediKanoute
19-09-2010, 11:46 AM
Bit harsh on addison and Murphy. Thought both were better than 5 and 4 respectively. Yes Addison faded after half time, but so did the team collectively. As for Murphy, had he slotted 2 goals in the 2nd the result may have been different.

AndrewP6
19-09-2010, 11:48 AM
Bit harsh on addison and Murphy. Thought both were better than 5 and 4 respectively. Yes Addison faded after half time, but so did the team collectively. As for Murphy, had he slotted 2 goals in the 2nd the result may have been different.

Unfortunately he didn't/couldn't.

Agree on DFA though.

LostDoggy
19-09-2010, 12:00 PM
A good exercise to do to see where the list is at is to pick a team from both our team and say the bench mark team like Collingwood or Geelong for example. This give you a true indication of the best 22 and where we sit at the moment.

Who in our team last night would kick out some of these guys?

Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Nathan Brown, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Ben Reid, Heath Shaw
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Chris Dawes, Steele Sidebottom
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
Int: Jarryd Blair, Leon Davis, Brent Macaffer, Leigh Brown

Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Paul Medhurst, Tyson Goldsack

LostDoggy
19-09-2010, 12:08 PM
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Brian Lake, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Dale Morris, Heath Shaw
C: Ryan Griffen, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Barry Hall, Robert Murphy,
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
Int: Jarrod Harbrow, Jarrod Grant, Brent Macaffer, Leigh Brown

Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Paul Medhurst, Tyson Goldsack

This is all I could come up with. I didn't change if I thought they would be fairly even

Dazza
19-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Would have rated Addison a bit higher thought he had a great game.

EasternWest
19-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Would rate Addison, Wood and Morris higher. To play on with broken bones is almost beyond comprehension.

jazzadogs
19-09-2010, 01:14 PM
At least these guys made mention that Hall was triple teamed most of the time. I couldn't believe it when people were saying Dawson was among the Saints best...he doesn't do anything?

And can't believe Milne got four votes in the Hun...just shows how different peoples opinions can vary so wildly!

comrade
19-09-2010, 01:18 PM
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Brian Lake, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Dale Morris, Heath Shaw
C: Ryan Griffen, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Barry Hall, Robert Murphy,
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
Int: Jarrod Harbrow, Jarrod Grant, Brent Macaffer, Leigh Brown

Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Paul Medhurst, Tyson Goldsack

This is all I could come up with. I didn't change if I thought they would be fairly even

Callan Ward > Ben Johnson
Liam Picken > Brent Macaffer

Apart from that, it looks about right.

Ghost Dog
19-09-2010, 02:42 PM
Good write up HotDog

On a positive note, it's great that those faces we will be seeing more of next season did well last night. The older players who are on the way out were by and large, the ones who struggled.
So it goes!

LostDoggy
19-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Callan Ward > Ben Johnson
Liam Picken > Brent Macaffer

Apart from that, it looks about right.

Good call on those two. That makes 9 player who may break into Collingwoods team and for me shows we are clearly 4 or 5 players behind the top two clubs. If we are honest Collingwoods list and age are frightening for the next 3 years at-least.

Hotdog60
19-09-2010, 02:54 PM
Good write up HotDog

On a positive note, it's great that those faces we will be seeing more of next season did well last night. The older players who are on the way out were by and large, the ones who struggled.
So it goes!

Thanks Ghost Dog, Luv to take the credit but it's from the AFL site. Link at the bottom.:D

Remi Moses
19-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Good write up . Disagree on Dylan Addison thought he played his best game for the club

bornadog
19-09-2010, 04:18 PM
Bit harsh on addison and Murphy. Thought both were better than 5 and 4 respectively. Yes Addison faded after half time, but so did the team collectively. As for Murphy, had he slotted 2 goals in the 2nd the result may have been different.

Murphy was ordinary in the second half due to his knee., only picked up 10 disposals.

Bulldog Joe
19-09-2010, 11:17 PM
I would see Grant as over rated. He may have pace but it is no use when he just trails through half hearted. Even his goal was fortunate as he was not going hard, but the ball come over the back to him. How the writer of the article could suggest he ran from half back could only show that he was not really watching.

Grant had a very disappointing finals series.

The Bulldogs Bite
20-09-2010, 12:42 AM
I would see Grant as over rated. He may have pace but it is no use when he just trails through half hearted. Even his goal was fortunate as he was not going hard, but the ball come over the back to him. How the writer of the article could suggest he ran from half back could only show that he was not really watching.

Grant had a very disappointing finals series.

He started poorly with a few fumbles but got into the game after that. He faded (like the rest of the side) but I saw some good signs in the first half. His pressure/tackling etc. was very good.

The reason he wasn't going flat out in that piece of play is because he had ran from center wing. He was involved in the set-up of that very play and kept running forward. Despite being buggered, he had the composure to drill it - a very good goal.

How can you knock him for that?

Had a poor first two games but he was OK for a half against St. Kilda.

LostDoggy
20-09-2010, 08:57 AM
Addison looks like he may be back to his pre injury form.

1eyedog
20-09-2010, 09:42 AM
For a bloke who hasn't played 50 games I thought Williams toiled away well on Roo and tried to stick to the task at hand. I was less pleased with our midfield pressure after half time that provided Roo with so many more opportunities.

1eyedog
20-09-2010, 09:43 AM
I would see Grant as over rated. He may have pace but it is no use when he just trails through half hearted. Even his goal was fortunate as he was not going hard, but the ball come over the back to him. How the writer of the article could suggest he ran from half back could only show that he was not really watching.

Grant had a very disappointing finals series.

Give him a chance he is young. Has shown good signs and will be better for the run.

stefoid
20-09-2010, 01:07 PM
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Brian Lake, Alan Toovey
HB: Harry O'Brien, Dale Morris, Heath Shaw
C: Ryan Griffen, Dane Swan, Ben Johnson
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Luke Ball
F: Dayne Beams, Barry Hall, Robert Murphy,
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
Int: Jarrod Harbrow, Jarrod Grant, Brent Macaffer, Leigh Brown

Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Paul Medhurst, Tyson Goldsack

This is all I could come up with. I didn't change if I thought they would be fairly even

Cooney, gilbee and Higgins are a bit stiff.

LostDoggy
20-09-2010, 02:31 PM
Cooney, gilbee and Higgins are a bit stiff.
It was based on our current side the played in the PF.

Bulldog Joe
20-09-2010, 04:50 PM
He started poorly with a few fumbles but got into the game after that. He faded (like the rest of the side) but I saw some good signs in the first half. His pressure/tackling etc. was very good.

The reason he wasn't going flat out in that piece of play is because he had ran from center wing. He was involved in the set-up of that very play and kept running forward. Despite being buggered, he had the composure to drill it - a very good goal.

How can you knock him for that?

Had a poor first two games but he was OK for a half against St. Kilda.

The only thing I saw him do at centre wing was give a half-hearted chase. He had no influence on the play. Seriously needs to find some intensity if he is going to make it.

Bumper Bulldogs
20-09-2010, 07:30 PM
For a bloke who hasn't played 50 games I thought Williams toiled away well on Roo and tried to stick to the task at hand. I was less pleased with our midfield pressure after half time that provided Roo with so many more opportunities.

Yes agree and i thought that Roo kicked his goals on Morris not Williams. and for that one that just bounced the right way for him in the 3rd .... Well sometimes it's just going your way

Bumper Bulldogs
20-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Cooney, gilbee and Higgins are a bit stiff.

Next year you could also put in Roughy, Reid and Hooper!