Draft camp (combine) results. Our boys performance.

[LostDoggy]

Young Mitch has come Equal 6th in the agility test.
Other results can be viewed at:
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16674/Default.aspx

[EasternWest]

There's a Joe Groenewegen there. Any relation to ours? He'd have to be wouldn't he?

[Desipura]

There's a Joe Groenewegen there. Any relation to ours? He'd have to be wouldn't he?

Robert's son.

[Greystache]

Robert's son.

Before anyone asks- 79 games

[G-Mo77]

Before anyone asks- 79 games

Is he any good?

[divvydan]

He was overlooked in the 2009 AFL Draft so it's a little surprising that he was even invited to the Draft Combine this year, maybe he has improved since then

[stefoid]

Someone needs to tell smedts that if he wants to come to the dogs, he isnt doing himself any favours at draft camp by performing well.

[divvydan]

Some photos of Libba and Wallis at the Draft Combine

http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/450/2010/09/29/219163.jpg

http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/450/2010/09/29/219164.jpg

http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/450/2010/09/29/219165.jpg

http://images.slatterymedia.com/images/thumbs/450/2010/09/29/219166.jpg

[ledge]

Fairdinkum call me old fashioned but I couldnt care less on all these tests......Can you play football with natural abillity is all that matters.
Wallis and Liberatore are testament to that, they arent in the top 5 of anything and I would be surprised if Williams, Liberatore senior or a few other brownlow medallists were.
Give me talent and desire!

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Fairdinkum call me old fashioned but I couldnt care less on all these tests......Can you play football with natural abillity is all that matters.
Wallis and Liberatore are testament to that, they arent in the top 5 of anything and I would be surprised if Williams, Liberatore senior or a few other brownlow medallists were.
Give me talent and desire!

Well said, even Brad Hardie couldn't get into the top 10 unless it was the lunch time line at the tuck shop.:D

[LostDoggy]

Thanks Divvy Great Pics!!!!!!

[Go_Dogs]

Thanks for posting that link stevw9.

[LostDoggy]

Whats with the word Combine..is it a fancy version of Camp? It just sounds like an awkward word ;)

[LostDoggy]

Whats with the word Combine..is it a fancy version of Camp? It just sounds like an awkward word ;)

Taken from the US draft, weird, just doesn't suit, unbloody Australian!

[divvydan]

Watching the draft combine show, they said Libba tested at 2.99sec for the 20m sprint, Wallis just over that.

[Remi Moses]

I see our coach up there presenting someone of importance a Birthday present .
I went delve to much or we'll get a churlish insult from someone here!
Anyway good to see our boys performing well up in the nations capital

[bulldogsfight]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tom-liberatore-and-mitchell-wallis-bound-for-western-bulldogs/story-e6frf9jf-1225932020398

[The Coon Dog]

I see our coach up there presenting someone of importance a Birthday present .
I went delve to much or we'll get a churlish insult from someone here!
Anyway good to see our boys performing well up in the nations capital

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs664.snc4/60389_446521547327_161674172327_5120655_4613538_n.jpg

[Bulldog Revolution]

Classy stuff TCD, shame Fantasia cant stay awake and Williams clearly voted for someone else

[soupman]

What an awkward photo. Rocket's smile looks pained, Fantasia looks like he's on the verge of crying and Williams looks as if he's been told to stand there and not do anything.

[bornadog]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs664.snc4/60389_446521547327_161674172327_5120655_4613538_n.jpg

We should be milking this one for three years while we can:D

Now give us a few million for more gym equipment:D and don't forget to wipe the debt along the way.

[LostDoggy]

Libba just placed outright 3rd in the kicking test with a score of 25/30 83%.

[LostDoggy]

Wally placed third in clean hands test with 27/30.

Both boys with some clean skills!

[Cyberdoggie]

Libba just placed outright 3rd in the kicking test with a score of 25/30 83%.

That's probably 1 skill he's already exceeded his old man in :p

Good to see he's not a just a plodder with a football brain.

[Jasper]

There's a Joe Groenewegen there. Any relation to ours? He'd have to be wouldn't he?

(Darth Vader voice) = Joe, I AM YOUR FATHER (ignore spelling)

[angelopetraglia]

A Libba who is an elite Kick, who would have thought?

[lemmon]

A Libba who is an elite Kick, who would have thought?

Im not sure I would call him elite, certainly tidy but Wallis will be the more creative one with the ball in his hands. Liberatore on the other hand will have some of the best inside skills going around in a few years time, his hands and clearance work are sensational.

[The Pie Man]

Watching the draft combine show, they said Libba tested at 2.99sec for the 20m sprint, Wallis just over that.

I think the club will be pleasantly surprised with the speed results - I'm reading under 3 seconds is condiered 'elite', and neither lad was known for their pace.

Exciting times

[Dazza]

Anyone cringing at the thought of playing Collingwood with Libba in the side?

[azabob]

Classy stuff TCD, shame Fantasia cant stay awake and Williams clearly voted for someone else

Funny stuff.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Im not sure I would call him elite, certainly tidy but Wallis will be the more creative one with the ball in his hands. Liberatore on the other hand will have some of the best inside skills going around in a few years time, his hands and clearance work are sensational.

Would one suggest that Cross could be in trouble in 2012?

The boys have said that they want to play seniors next year

A midfield of Cooney, Grif, Libba & Wallis???????

[Go_Dogs]

Libba just placed outright 3rd in the kicking test with a score of 25/30 83%.

Not too surprised by that, when I have seen him his kicking has always been pretty neat. He's not elite in the classical sense, as he probably doesn't quite have the penetration of the better ball users running around in the AFL, but I think he's going to be more than useful by foot. And outstanding by hand, certainly elite in that area.

[ReLoad]

I think the real upshot to me of getting these two is that potentially it eases the pressure on Cooney and Griffen.

Our Centre line has real potential: Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Wallis & Liberatore.

The real trick is that could free up the "second Midfeild" just like Collingwood has, Cross & Boyd from the bench.

Ok, enough of this talk bring on 2011 already......

[LostDoggy]

Don't forget Reid and Higgins who have shown that they can be regulars. If I disregard the team fabric thing, I would actually shop both Boyd and Cross around and trade off whichever one nets us the highest draft pick hopefully higher than 40. I think Reid could slip into that role next year with able backup from libba/Wally.

[GVGjr]

Not too surprised by that, when I have seen him his kicking has always been pretty neat. He's not elite in the classical sense, as he probably doesn't quite have the penetration of the better ball users running around in the AFL, but I think he's going to be more than useful by foot. And outstanding by hand, certainly elite in that area.

His kicking in the grand final was particularly good but like you I thought it was a strength of his.

[LostDoggy]

Our Centre line has real potential: Cooney, Griffen, Ward, Wallis & Liberatore.
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Not wanting to put a dampener on things, but Wallis and Libba could both be spuds.

If you believe some of the hype on here, they'll be the greatest footballers ever to have played the game, and in their first year of AFL! A touch unrealistic.

I agree that it's an exciting prospect to have two sons of guns down at the club, both of whom are believed to be good enough to be top 10 draft picks - and we get them with picks 22 and 41. Brilliant. But Farren Ray and Jordan McMahon were both top 10 draft picks for the Bulldogs. That ended well.

[Ghost Dog]

Well said, even Brad Hardie couldn't get into the top 10 unless it was the lunch time line at the tuck shop.:D

Spat crumbs all over the keyboard when I read that! heh heh

[lemmon]

Would one suggest that Cross could be in trouble in 2012?

The boys have said that they want to play seniors next year

A midfield of Cooney, Grif, Libba & Wallis???????

Its a pure hypothetical but I dont think Libba will be resigned to the clearance work, definitely has the attributes to be a well rounded player with his key strength being his clean hands inside. Best case scenario and he ends up a Sam Mitchell type player.

[GVGjr]

Not wanting to put a dampener on things, but Wallis and Libba could both be spuds.

If you believe some of the hype on here, they'll be the greatest footballers ever to have played the game, and in their first year of AFL! A touch unrealistic.

I agree that it's an exciting prospect to have two sons of guns down at the club, both of whom are believed to be good enough to be top 10 draft picks - and we get them with picks 22 and 41. Brilliant. But Farren Ray and Jordan McMahon were both top 10 draft picks for the Bulldogs. That ended well.

If you have seen them play and regard the opinions of any of the draft experts I'd tip against that. Any team can miss with draft picks but these guys have had a lot of experience at the club and I think we will do OK with them.

[Mofra]

If you have seen them play and regard the opinions of any of the draft experts I'd tip against that. Any team can miss with draft picks but these guys have had a lot of experience at the club and I think we will do OK with them.
Ray was scapegoated, he was an outside type before they became fasionable. He will play good football for St Kilda.
McMahon never had the application to use his talents - given both Libba & Wallis are being mentored by Cross & Boyd, they will be fully aware of theoff-field work that's required to make the grade.
I'm fairly confident Libba & Wallis will exceed Ray & McMahon.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Spat crumbs all over the keyboard when I read that! heh heh

Its Ok brad will come over and have a feed.

Just on that have you all seen the size of Scott Cummings this is a bloke that has eaten his fair share of Pies over the journey.