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The Coon Dog
17-05-2011, 08:01 AM
Michael Horan - Herald Sun - 17 May

MAINTAIN the rage. That's the mission of the Western Bulldogs as they embark on a searching three-week campaign that may well define their season.

After showing signs of the sparkle that took them to last year's preliminary final when they thrashed Richmond by 35 points at the weekend, coach Rodney Eade said it was essential his players kept that same level of intensity through crucial games against West Coast in Perth, Hawthorn at Etihad and then Geelong at Skilled Stadium in the coming weeks.

''There's no doubt about that,'' Eade said on 3AW.

Article in full... (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/rodney-eade-calls-for-dogs-to-be-ferocious-intense/story-e6frf9if-1226057205732)

Mantis
17-05-2011, 08:07 AM
Agree with Rocket's call on Ward re: not spending enough time in the centre square. He showed his worth on Sunday; the pace at which he hit the contest was most pleasing.

Also liked that Cross spent more time in there and hope this continues.

LostDoggy
17-05-2011, 10:08 AM
Agree with Rocket's call on Ward re: not spending enough time in the centre square. He showed his worth on Sunday; the pace at which he hit the contest was most pleasing.

Also liked that Cross spent more time in there and hope this continues.

Yes, very happy to see them (by them, I mean coaching panel) analysing their own tactical mistakes and successes and rectifying them, instead of laying the entire blame at the feet of players. Good signs, hope they keep it up…

Sockeye Salmon
17-05-2011, 10:21 AM
I noticed at one stage our starting 4 were Minson, Cross, Addison & Liberatore.

Maybe not a lot of class but certainly some hard heads.

LostDoggy
17-05-2011, 10:29 AM
I noticed at one stage our starting 4 were Minson, Cross, Addison & Liberatore.

Maybe not a lot of class but certainly some hard heads.

You don't think Libba's two-footed precision in heavy traffic counts as class? Point taken though -- almost Sydney-like, that set-up.

LostDoggy
17-05-2011, 10:44 AM
ps.

Quote from the article: ''He showed his worth at the weekend, His attack on the footy and his attack on the opponent was terrific. it's marvellous, isn't it, but we expect a lot of younger players but once they play 25, 20 or 40 games it seems a lot easier for them. they make good decisions.''

Interesting one, almost related to Sockeye's 20-game rule.

Is it also an insight into his changed stance this year with younger players? We seem to have played quite a few more than usual (probably forced to) and they are starting to respond, with Jones, Ward, Grant and Stack (yes, Stack) starting to contribute. We still need to get the balance right (ie. Minson on current form over Roughead every day of the week) but it's good to see the development focus this year while still being very competitive. (In fairness, some of our senior players from years past -- Johnno, Aker etc. -- were absolute guns that would have been hard to drop. Hahn last year and Eagle were probably the two that stood out a bit though.)

I think it's actually the right way to go about development -- have young players come in around a hardened side, so even losses are pretty close and they contribute to wins regularly, as opposed to Dean Bailey's ridiculous "we'll lose by 100 points every week for three years but wait till they grow up!" tanking strategy.

Ghost Dog
17-05-2011, 11:31 AM
ps.

Quote from the article: ''He showed his worth at the weekend, His attack on the footy and his attack on the opponent was terrific. it's marvellous, isn't it, but we expect a lot of younger players but once they play 25, 20 or 40 games it seems a lot easier for them. they make good decisions.''

Interesting one, almost related to Sockeye's 20-game rule.

Is it also an insight into his changed stance this year with younger players? We seem to have played quite a few more than usual (probably forced to) and they are starting to respond, with Jones, Ward, Grant and Stack (yes, Stack) starting to contribute. We still need to get the balance right (ie. Minson on current form over Roughead every day of the week) but it's good to see the development focus this year while still being very competitive. (In fairness, some of our senior players from years past -- Johnno, Aker etc. -- were absolute guns that would have been hard to drop. Hahn last year and Eagle were probably the two that stood out a bit though.)

I think it's actually the right way to go about development -- have young players come in around a hardened side, so even losses are pretty close and they contribute to wins regularly, as opposed to Dean Bailey's ridiculous "we'll lose by 100 points every week for three years but wait till they grow up!" tanking strategy.

hey Well put Lantern
Boy, they are under the pump and rightly so.

Mofra
17-05-2011, 12:20 PM
You don't think Libba's two-footed precision in heavy traffic counts as class? Point taken though -- almost Sydney-like, that set-up.
Libba has practically overtaken Gia already as our best user of the football in heavy traffic. Teams will start to put some work into stopping him kicking with his left foot soon enough.

The Pie Man
17-05-2011, 12:44 PM
Libba has practically overtaken Gia already as our best user of the football in heavy traffic. Teams will start to put some work into stopping him kicking with his left foot soon enough.

I have no idea on the actual stats so this is all anecdotal, but I view Lib as the inside 50 king. He just seems to find someone with a forward entry.

He also seems to have what a lot of good midfielders have... time.

Desipura
17-05-2011, 02:00 PM
Libba has practically overtaken Gia already as our best user of the football in heavy traffic. Teams will start to put some work into stopping him kicking with his left foot soon enough.

His right foot goal was nice as well!

bornadog
17-05-2011, 03:26 PM
I have no idea on the actual stats so this is all anecdotal, but I view Lib as the inside 50 king. He just seems to find someone with a forward entry.

He also seems to have what a lot of good midfielders have... time.
On the weekend he had 6 inside 50's, third to Ward 10 and Boyd 8

Topdog
17-05-2011, 04:16 PM
On the weekend he had 6 inside 50's, third to Ward 10 and Boyd 8

Any idea how many ended up with a mark for all 3? Or a goal / point if a shot from outside 50 is counted as an i50?

Maddog37
17-05-2011, 04:27 PM
Not to be too harsh but why have we waited til this week to show some ferocity and intensity? Where was it from round one.

Did we take too much of a long term view regarding how we approach this season?

azabob
17-05-2011, 05:16 PM
I thought Cross played his best game this year.

Bornadog, isn't it funny the 5 min interview on AW has turned into an article. As you said the interview was a waste of time, yet an article has come from it.

bornadog
17-05-2011, 05:38 PM
Any idea how many ended up with a mark for all 3? Or a goal / point if a shot from outside 50 is counted as an i50?

I can remember he kicked two goals, plus passed a beautiful kick to hit (can't remember) on the chest resulting in another goal.

Topdog
17-05-2011, 07:48 PM
I can remember he kicked two goals, plus passed a beautiful kick to hit (can't remember) on the chest resulting in another goal.

pretty sure that was Grant

divvydan
17-05-2011, 10:01 PM
Any idea how many ended up with a mark for all 3? Or a goal / point if a shot from outside 50 is counted as an i50?

It's not really possible to know how many ended up as marks, however, the assists in total are known and it's a reasonable guide.

Goal Assists:
Libba-3
Boyd-2
Ward-1

LostDoggy
19-05-2011, 10:36 PM
ps.

Quote from the article: ''He showed his worth at the weekend, His attack on the footy and his attack on the opponent was terrific. it's marvellous, isn't it, but we expect a lot of younger players but once they play 25, 20 or 40 games it seems a lot easier for them. they make good decisions.''

Interesting one, almost related to Sockeye's 20-game rule.

Is it also an insight into his changed stance this year with younger players? We seem to have played quite a few more than usual (probably forced to) and they are starting to respond, with Jones, Ward, Grant and Stack (yes, Stack) starting to contribute. We still need to get the balance right (ie. Minson on current form over Roughead every day of the week) but it's good to see the development focus this year while still being very competitive. (In fairness, some of our senior players from years past -- Johnno, Aker etc. -- were absolute guns that would have been hard to drop. Hahn last year and Eagle were probably the two that stood out a bit though.)

I think it's actually the right way to go about development -- have young players come in around a hardened side, so even losses are pretty close and they contribute to wins regularly, as opposed to Dean Bailey's ridiculous "we'll lose by 100 points every week for three years but wait till they grow up!" tanking strategy.

Yes, definitely a great way of putting it Lantern. They remind me of people who buy 24-months-interest-free. “Top draft picks? Free? Really? I can just take them home??” But when you've taken home the goods, and the years have passed, you'd better have made up on the debt or the interest gets pretty bloody heavy, and before you know it you're knee-deep in shit.

Melbourne to a T at the moment.