Game Day 2011 - R16 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton

[BulldogBelle]

This is the discussion thread for our Sunday twilight game against Carlton at ES.

My predictions are:

The Dogs by 14 points
BOG : Adam Cooney
Daniel Giansiracusa to kick the first goal

[LostDoggy]

I've picked Carlton by around 25ish

However, If the dogs back line can get something rolling then I believe the mids and fwds will do enough.
A big 'if' though.

[DragzLS1]

Dogs by 44 points because Carlton have a big head and it's time we out them in there place!
Bog cooney
First goal baza (seems to score in the first quarter predominately)

[1eyedog]

Bulldogs by 22 points
Barry Hall BOG with 7 goals on Thornton
Barry Hall first goal

[the banker]

dogs by 9

BOG Boyd

Goal Grommett

[firstdogonthemoon]

Dogs by 5 in a game that is so close it causes me to have a small myocardial infarction and drop my pie and/or beer

Griff BOG

First Goal Nathan Eagleton!

oh alright... first goal... Barry!

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 2 points in a nailbiter!

First goal - Callan Ward
BOG = Cooooooooney!

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 5 in a game that is so close it causes me to have a small myocardial infarction and drop my pie and/or beer


Hope this happens!.....the first bit I mean.

BOG Griff
First Higgins

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 5 poinys

BOG Cooney
!st goal Gilbee

[LostDoggy]

Running the rule over the Carton Forward line and Midfield

Betts - 65% disposal efficiency,11 goal assists,50 tackles,88% goal kick efficiency, 27 goals
Kreuzer - 70% DE , 4 GA , 16 T , 24% GKE , 2 goals
Walker - 71% DE , 10 GA , 37 T , 83% GKE , 36 goals
Houlihan - 71% DE , 4 GA , 10 T , 11% GKE , no goals
Waite - 64% DE , 12 GA , 22 T , 66% GKE ,27 contested marks, 16 goals
Garlett - 59% DE , 7 GA , 58 T , 84% GKE , 35 goals

Betts and Garlett are the small fast defensive/ offensive cornerstones , roving and crumbing the specialty, Walker has added to the mix with his ability to find space , Waite is the tall target his contested marking the linchpin to their F50 movement , Kreuzer and Houlihan are the weakest links and can be pressured into making mistakes , the use of a tight mobile defensive screen at the top of the F50 the key to stopping them finding targets , quick fast accurate ball movement the key to breaking the press on the rebound, the use of Griffen dropping back as the extra man will be key

Gibbs - 76% disposal efficiency, 226 kicks , 96 handballs , 45 tackles , 103 marks, 9 contested marks , 49 rebound 50,s , 9 goal assist
Judd - 67% DE , 173 K , 198 HB , 90 T , 38 M , 2 CM , 62 inside 50,s , 20 GA
Simpson - 70% DE , 198 K , 93 HB , 54 T ,73 M , 3 CM , 69 I 50,s , 13 GA
Murphy - 73% DE , 230 K , 174 HB , 68 T , 66 M , 1 CM , 59 I 50,s ,10 GA
Robinson - 68% DE , 179 K , 111 HB ,50 T, 41 clangers , 75 M ,8 CM , 58 I 50,s , 5 GA

The most obvious point is their ability to break laterally to find space . Gibbs drops back as the extra man and finds space his rebound 50,s a key to their switch of play , Ward is the best man on man matchup to shut him down . Judd is the stat monster, his enormous workrate tight in the contests then working forward to create goals has to be contained Picken has to work him over like he did to Ablett , Simpson works as the 3rd link and works across the ground to create angles to get the ball forward , Murphy works as the 2nd link with Judd dangerous as he ducks his head to get free kicks he has 38 frees for tackles have to be hard and low , Robinson gets on the defensive side of the contest and is the weakest link in their midfield put pressure on him and he makes mistakes

Tough game but we can break their two level press ( 1st level Betts , Garlett and Walker I 50) ( 2nd level Judd, Simpson, Murphy top of the 50 ) by quick accurate ball movement , players will have to work hard to create space to provide targets , any delays in decision making will give them too much time to block/ cover spaces ,we have to stay with our zones and not have players pulled in close to the contest , we have to finish the 1ST quarter very strongly to break up any momentum they might be trying build , the same with the start of the 3RD come out hard and shut down their lateral movement and hurt them on the scoreboard

Dogs by 19 points
First Goal Gia ( free kick )
BOG Ward

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[KT31]

Dogs by 4 points
1st Griff
Bog - Cooney

[DragzLS1]

^^^ what he said. I like it

[AndrewP6]

Late withdrawal: AndrewP6. Hit with the Delhi Belly as I was about to leave for the train station:mad: Don't actually feel unwell, which makes it even worse. Didn't want to take the risk of getting there and being crook. NOT HAPPY. With my luck, they'll have a cracker of a game in my absence. :(

[comay]

Dogs by 18 points
first goal: Barry
BOG: Coon

[Sockeye Salmon]

Late withdrawal: AndrewP6. Hit with the Delhi Belly as I was about to leave for the train station:mad: Don't actually feel unwell, which makes it even worse. Didn't want to take the risk of getting there and being crook. NOT HAPPY. With my luck, they'll have a cracker of a game in my absence. :(

If they do we'll ban you

[LostDoggy]

Managed to get free tickets to like the extreme premium medallion club seats in row A. Can't wait, they should be the best seats i've ever had to a game.

Sadly i think they win
BoG: Griff

edit: Hill is out sub, fairly sensible, however i'm surprised at Carlton's moves. AJ for Carazzo, no injury mentioned. AJ was their primary tagger but has barely played this year. And Russell as the sub? surprising to say the least. First time he's been in that role i believe

[LostDoggy]

Come doggies, put the effort in and take the prize.

[Dry Rot]

We are only able to beat a top four side about once a year since 2008.

Today will be no different - Carlton by 6 goals+.

BOG Murphy (carlton)

First goal Walker

[ledge]

Chamberlain best on ground for Carlton early in the first

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Getting carved up by the umpires.

[Go_Dogs]

Sounds like Jones is doing well.

[comrade]

Getting carved up by the umpires.

Disgraceful, isn't it?

[Bulldog4life]

7 frees to 1 Carlton's way. No consistency either.

[ledge]

I think I saw a big CFC on Chamberlains shirt.

[AndrewP6]

Sounds like Jones is doing well.

He is, has taken some good strong grabs and kicked a goal.

Getting carved up by the umpires.
Absolutely appalling...what I want to know is, has Chamberlain always been a Blues fan, or is it a new thing? He's shocking. Our blokes have to have blood spilt to get a free apparently.

Tom Williams doing really well too IMO, good positioning and reading the play well.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Jones' hands have been good.
Pretty even spread of performers so far. All players seem focused and working hard.
Early days obviously, but I am surprised. I expected the Blues to really hurt us early on.
Razor Ray has been horrible, paid against Hudson when he first tapped it from the ruck but then grabbed it afterwards and was tackled before getting a handball away. I thought the rule was only holding the ball if a ruck immediately took possession from the ruck and was tackled? Cost us a goal.
Then missed free kicks within 20 metres of our goal to Dahlhaus and Gia whilst missing an obvious throw by Mitch Robinson who did the old one handed handpass.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Tom Williams doing really well too IMO, good positioning and reading the play well.

One of his most confident starts to date. Backing himself one on one and has taken a couple of good overhead marks under pressure, whilst as you say holding his position against Waite very well.

[AndrewP6]

Jones' hands have been good.
Pretty even spread of performers so far. All players seem focused and working hard.
Early days obviously, but I am surprised. I expected the Blues to really hurt us early on.
Razor Ray has been horrible, paid against Hudson when he first tapped it from the ruck but then grabbed it afterwards and was tackled before getting a handball away. I thought the rule was only holding the ball if a ruck immediately took possession from the ruck and was tackled? Cost us a goal.
Then missed free kicks within 20 metres of our goal to Dahlhaus and Gia whilst missing an obvious throw by Mitch Robinson who did the old one handed handpass.

And Hooper getting thrown without the ball :mad:

[Dog54]

Umps always look at stats and even them up! Hopefully for us a few inside 50,

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Johnno just pointed out an important stat that is worrying, Blues 12 inside 50's for 9 shots on goal. We're lucky they've kicked poorly.

[Greystache]

Surely there has to be a rule saying Chamberlain and Peanut Nichols can't umpire in the same game, 2 attention seekers of the highest order!!

[LostDoggy]

Equal with the tackles 16 to 17
Loosing the frees 1 to 7
Kept Judd quiet
Picken on Murphy doing well
We just have to shut down Gibbs
We have made them play contested ball and they don,t enjoy that

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[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

And Hooper getting thrown without the ball :mad:

On Hooper, it looks like his sole job is to keep presenting as a decoy and run Yarran to a standstill. Interesting to see if he's got the tank to keep it up. But I like the ploy hopefully wearing him down and blunting his run out of the back half.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Now they've moved Hooper onto Joseph, as Hooper give away a stupid 50 for a goal to Joseph.

[ledge]

We are just hanging in there, first quarter all effort, second qtr we are second to the ball.
Could be dangerous signs for us.

[comrade]

Where's our midfield?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Terrible start. 2 goals to the Blues in 3 minutes. Gotta start making an impact on the stoppages.

[AndrewP6]

IMO a 50m penalty for taking 2 steps over the mark is absurd. Far too harsh for a minor infringement that in reality has no impact on the opponent.

Ditto on the Murphy free. To me, it's a case of little men making sure we know they're still in charge.
Now the goose tries to make up for it in our backline.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Another stupid 50 for encroaching the mark. Another goal. Just stupid.

[chef]

Gee we are playing some dumb football.

[Go_Dogs]

IMO a 50m penalty for taking 2 steps over the mark is absurd. Far too harsh for a minor infringement that in reality has no impact on the opponent.

And another one. :mad:

[comrade]

Result was pre-ordained. How the *!*!*!*! are you supposed to beat a team when the umpires give you nothing.

Our midfield are a bunch of crabs. I said in the preview thread that Picken and Boyd had to stand up. Both have had their pants pulled down.

[LostDoggy]

Umpires are killing us

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[ledge]

Razor IS unbelievable, talk about filthy under the table money

[ledge]

What the hell is going on in the centre?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Boy to say we needed that is an understatement. Look to have regained some composure, can't afford to fall asleep for those 5-6 minute stretches.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Great repeat efforts by Dahlhaus. 3 goals in a row for us now. Great comeback.

[ledge]

I love DAHLHAUS!!!

[Go_Dogs]

Good few minutes for us.

[Greystache]

Grant looks completely disinterested.

Hooper and Reid up forward is just confusing.

Boyd and Picken getting smashed. We're kicking some goals through individual brilliance.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

This umpiring is embarrassing.

[ledge]

We must be getting close umpires again helping them out,

[AndrewP6]

Fortunately this isn't umpire appreciation round. I'm thinking of starting a "Umpires are pathetic" Facebook group.

[ledge]

If Cooney and Griffin come good we will win

[comrade]

Great resolve shown. Griffen and Cooney started to get involved which took the heat off Boyd who was getting taught a lesson early in the quarter.

Dahlhaus is such a beauty!

We need to start winning more from the stoppages but I'm pretty happy with the effort so far.

[Twodogs]

This umpiring is unbelievably biased.

[Topdog]

Grant looks completely disinterested.


I'm absolutely sick of him. Drop him and seep him in Willy for at least 4 weeks.

If he doesn't want to give effort don't let him play.

[comrade]

Tommy has taken some Brian Lake type marks in defence.

Easton has done a good job so far, negating Walker and winning the ball as well. He's leading our SC scoring at half time.

[Dog54]

Grant looks completely disinterested.

Hooper and Reid up forward is just confusing.

Boyd and Picken getting smashed. We're kicking some goals through individual brilliance.

Hooper is going great defensive pressure! When we get the ball in it's being locked in really well.

[Chicago1]

Watching on ESPN3 here. Great second half of that quarter. I guess I'll have to stay up for the second half.

[ledge]

Jarryd Waite has 2 groins???

[LostDoggy]

Great 4 goal comeback after the umpires intervened
Solid pressure , we have denied them the space they need for their zones
We have again stuck to the gameplan to hit targets by foot , only 53 handpasses to their 98
We have had 50 less disposals but have moved the ball better
Ward and Wood having an impact
We have a very good spread of players who have been involved , good solid team play
Carlton are frustrated by the lack of space , if we can increase the pressure we will break them
Gibbs is the one player we must shut down, they need his rebound

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[AndrewP6]

Jarryd Waite has 2 groins???

Must be why he's in pain :)

[chef]

Grant looks completely disinterested.

Hooper and Reid up forward is just confusing.
Boyd and Picken getting smashed. We're kicking some goals through individual brilliance.

They are providing great a contest for the ball and pressure when we don't have it. I like this move

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Grant looks completely disinterested.

Hooper and Reid up forward is just confusing.

Boyd and Picken getting smashed. We're kicking some goals through individual brilliance.

Whilst Hooper hasn't had a possy and Reid only 4, they have helped keep the ball inside their with their harrassing. Carlton haven't been able to exploit them coming out of defense, so I'm not unhappy with the set up so far. Be interesting if their are no injuries whether Hill comes on at some stage.

[comrade]

Our forward pressure has been pretty immense thanks to Dahlhaus, Reid and Hooper. Not sure what's confusing about that?

[ledge]

Markovic and Williams stepped up, just need their disposal a little cleaner and thats a good looking pair to compliment Murphy and Morris.

[AndrewP6]

Our forward pressure has been pretty immense thanks to Dahlhaus, Reid and Hooper. Not sure what's confusing about that?

Agreed, whilst they haven't got a lot of the pill, their chase and harassing is good.

[ledge]

Sadly I would love to see us win but I just get that scary feeling we cant seem to get in front.

[Twodogs]

Jarryd Waite has 2 groins???

Yeah. One of them is between his ears.

[Chicago1]

Wow. Five in a row. And we take the lead.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Gees, we need to convert the domination we are having at the moment. Just unable to be clean going forward. Could cost us.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Fantastic play and goal. Keep it up boys!!

[comrade]

Our best goal of the year.

[Topdog]

Wow. Five in a row. And we take the lead.

make that 7 :D

[comrade]

Go Bazza!

[Topdog]

Wallace and the rest of the SEN crew have been full of nothing but praise for Eade today.

[Topdog]

believe and finish them off Dogs.

Huddo is back to 2010 form.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

The ole umpire even up is well into effect. That was not a mark by Ward. That pegs one back on the dodgy frees the Blues scored from early.

[comrade]

Wallace and the rest of the SEN crew have been full of nothing but praise for Eade today.

But hasn't the game passed him by, according to a number of posters here?

[EasternWest]

Holy crap. What a superb piece of play from Dahl and Hooper.

[comrade]

Good boy, Hooper.

[ledge]

Those Hooper doubters maybe shpuld listen to the commentators. Him and Dahlhaus are getting a hell of a good wrap.
Hooper and Dalhaus are giving us so much pressure in the forward line its incredible.

[comrade]

Great quarter of pressure footy.

[Topdog]

But hasn't the game passed him by, according to a number of posters here?

I won't go that route because Hudson is embarrassing me!

Gartlett and Betts have done nothing all day. Need to make sure we play out the game.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Good boy, Hooper.

He has surprised me. Really impressed with his efforts today, along with Dahlhaus again.
Really hope we can find a way to go on with this and get a win. A win today would be a magnificent boost to the club and would capitalise on the form trend we've had the past 3 weeks.
Just hope the players don't get ahead of myself like I have just done.

[AndrewP6]

Sadly I would love to see us win but I just get that scary feeling we cant seem to get in front.

We're there, now for the tricky part;)

[westdog54]

Just turned the laptop on for the first time today and we're 16 points up.

Come on Dogs, put them away and silence the critics!!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I won't go that route because Hudson is embarrassing me!

Gartlett and Betts have done nothing all day. Need to make sure we play out the game.

Hudson's work today has been magnificent. Hope he's still got some in the tank for the last, because his influence on the game has been vital.

[ledge]

And as much as some think Hall is past it, his presence is helping our kids out, you can even see Hall is running out to let Hooper, Cooney, Dalhaus have space when the ball hits the ground and run in.

[Mantis]

C'mon Dogs!!

Backline has been awesome.

[LostDoggy]

Just great pressure , behind by 20 on tackles , behind on the hitouts by almost 20 , behind on the disposals by 60 , behind on the handballs by 60 , ahead on the scoreboard by 16 , eat shite Carlton

We just have to keep the pressure on, we are breaking them down , the pressure is making them handpass , as I said before Gibbs is the most dangerous player he must be shut down

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[Ghost Dog]

wish i could see game. on bus. come on dogs! keep going

[comrade]

Josh Hill had the chance to ice it. Better not come back to bite us.

[Topdog]

Ice it Barry!

[westdog54]

This is turning into our best win of the season. We keep our finals chances alive and bring Carlscum supporters crashing down to Earth all in one fell swoop. DO NOT LET THIS SLIP DOGS! BURY THE MONGRELS!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Fantastic game fellas, surely home now. 29 up with 4:29 to go.

[westdog54]

Relying on Fanfooty website here but it seems like Wood has thrashed Andrew Walker.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Wow could yet be one of the great wins of our history. We are are now in the hunt for finals glory. To do it against scum Carlton has brought tears to my eyes.

[Topdog]

Relying on Fanfooty website here but it seems like Wood has thrashed Andrew Walker.

SEN agree with fanfooty.

[Twodogs]

What an awesome *!*!*!*!ing win!!!!!!



Suck shit and die Carlton.

[Go_Dogs]

What an awesome *!*!*!*!ing win!!!!!!



Suck shit and die Carlton.

It's perfect isn't it.

Now to maintain this level.

[westdog54]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Da, Da Da, Da da da da da, SONS OF THE WEST!

[Ghost Dog]

yeeeeeeesssss

[Topdog]

couldnt agree more 2D.

[Chicago1]

What a great win! Exciting to watch. The boys certainly did us proud today. Eade did OK too. :p

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Relying on Fanfooty website here but it seems like Wood has thrashed Andrew Walker.

Wood's most assured performance. Competed well one on one, and was able to be creative and run and use the ball.

[comrade]

Great *!*!*!*!ing win!

Rocket gave Ratten an absolute bath.

[Dry Rot]

Wow! Didn't see that coming.

Bummer that I've had to work today to meet a deadline for tomorrow. Must try to watch it during the week on BigPond.

[LostDoggy]

Great win Doggies.
Sounded like Williams / Wood / Morris / Murphy / Markovic did really well down back.
Eade completely out-coached Ratten.
Cant wait to see the highlights.

[LostDoggy]

We are only able to beat a top four side about once a year since 2008.

Today will be no different - Carlton by 6 goals+.

BOG Murphy (carlton)

First goal Walker

Good call ;)

[Ghost Dog]

hooper did well by the sounds of it? great news

[LostDoggy]

Incredible roller coaster of a game !!!!!!!!!!
Behind on the tackles 82 to 93
Behind on the disposals 312 to 382
Behind on the handballs 114 to 183
Behind on the hitouts 34 to 62
Marks and kicks almost dead level
Nailed them by 27

Just a great team win , the spread of disposals says it all , we shut down their ability to spread and find space , they just could,nt handle the pressure , we just broke them down , we were able to lift our pressure , they had nothing , by shutting down their midfield forward push their forward line was rendered useless

Almost in the 8 !!!!!!!!!!

MMMMMMMnnnnnnnnn Beer !!!!!!!!!!

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[ledge]

This today was the team I have known for the last 4 years.

[AndrewP6]

And as much as some think Hall is past it, his presence is helping our kids out, you can even see Hall is running out to let Hooper, Cooney, Dalhaus have space when the ball hits the ground and run in.

He's still got some left in the tank. 4 goals, the ability to chase seems to be back, and some great marks.

[bornadog]

Our fwd press was awesome, what great win

[kruder]

It was all about the press for me.

28 turnovers in the front half in the first half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Finally Rodney! Thank you very much!

[AndrewP6]

Tremendous win today! That's the Dogs we've missed most of this year. Great pressure, chasing, better decisions. Some great work from the Pups too. Sticking it to Carlton is terrific.

Still bummed I couldn't make it.

[Evel]

Unfortunately am interstate this weekend, so while thrilled we won, shattered that I wasn't there to see a great win. Still glad that many on here sound like they were there cheering the boys on. Keep the reports coming, really want to know how the game unfolded at least until I can get a copy of the replay.

Well done Dogs.

[Go_Dogs]

Once again, our contested ball v uncontested ball ratio is very interesting. We're very efficient at the moment and our ability to score heavily without huge numbers of uncontested ball bodes well for finals style footy (IMHO).

Look forward to comments from those who were there re: Hooper and Hill's games.

[Mantis]

Awesome win.

We would have rolled over 6 weeks ago when we were 27 pts down and getting bent over by that bald prick in yellow, but we gritted our teeth and toughed it out.

Our backline was great, all our match ups worked a treat.

Drink up doggies fans.

[AndrewP6]

Awesome win.

We would have rolled over 6 weeks ago when we were 27 pts down and getting bent over by that bald prick in yellow, but we gritted our teeth and toughed it out.

Our backline was great, all our match ups worked a treat.

Drink up doggies fans.

Was good to hear Eade say he might need to 'make a phone call' tomorrow...

[Rance Fan]

We're back!

Hill...ok for time he was on. Still bit suspect..i prefer Stack
Hooper kept the pressure on ...kicked 2..happy with that

[Topdog]

Our backline was great, all our match ups worked a treat.
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Bar Picken on Murphy but I don't know if Murphy is taggable anymore.

However we were all worried about the backline match ups and

Wood embarrassed Walker.
Murphy killed Gartlett.
Morris smashed Betts.

And Griffen well beaten in the first qtr was released in a great move by Eade.

[the banker]

Incredible roller coaster of a game !!!!!!!!!!
Behind on the tackles 82 to 93
Behind on the disposals 312 to 382
Behind on the handballs 114 to 183
Behind on the hitouts 34 to 62
Marks and kicks almost dead level
Nailed them by 27

Just a great team win , the spread of disposals says it all , we shut down their ability to spread and find space , they just could,nt handle the pressure , we just broke them down , we were able to lift our pressure , they had nothing , by shutting down their midfield forward push their forward line was rendered useless

Almost in the 8 !!!!!!!!!!

MMMMMMMnnnnnnnnn Beer !!!!!!!!!!

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scores from turnovers?

[Hotdog60]

We're back!

Hill...ok for time he was on. Still bit suspect..i prefer Stack
Hooper kept the pressure on ...kicked 2..happy with that

I thought Hill was useless and he had the chance to ice it and didn't plus still turned the ball over. I would have preferred one of the younger guys or Stack.

[Mantis]

Bar Picken on Murphy but I don't know if Murphy is taggable anymore.

However we were all worried about the backline match ups and

Wood embarrassed Walker.
Murphy killed Gartlett.
Morris smashed Betts.

And Griffen well beaten in the first qtr was released in a great move by Eade.

Was talking about the backline match-ups.

Murphy is better than I thought, but he is still a shirt lifting pretty boy.

[LostDoggy]

Its good to knock back a frothy or two and turn this up really loud

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[LostDoggy]

Late withdrawal: AndrewP6. Hit with the Delhi Belly as I was about to leave for the train station:mad: Don't actually feel unwell, which makes it even worse. Didn't want to take the risk of getting there and being crook. NOT HAPPY. With my luck, they'll have a cracker of a game in my absence. :(

No offence Andrew, but perhaps you could stay away more often? PS - hope you are better :D

[AndrewP6]

Late withdrawal: AndrewP6. Hit with the Delhi Belly as I was about to leave for the train station:mad: Don't actually feel unwell, which makes it even worse. Didn't want to take the risk of getting there and being crook. NOT HAPPY. With my luck, they'll have a cracker of a game in my absence. :(



If they do we'll ban you


No offence Andrew, but perhaps you could stay away more often? PS - hope you are better :D

Guess I'm on the outer from here on.... ;)

As I said, just my luck...

[LostDoggy]

Thought Williams had a super game tonight.

[LostDoggy]

Surely there has to be a rule saying Chamberlain and Peanut Nichols can't umpire in the same game, 2 attention seekers of the highest order!!

Don't you mean that those two Carlton supporters shouldn't be umpiring a Carltoooon game? I was just shaking my head most of the night, trying to figure out what the frees and 50 metre penalties were for?????? :confused:

[angelopetraglia]

Thought Williams had a super game tonight.

2nd that. He was superb. Took a few fantastic marks. Never looked liked getting beaten in a contest and looks so much more comfortable now with the footy in his hand.

[LostDoggy]

Thought Williams had a super game tonight.

Totally agree, it was great to see him full of confidence and holding his marks and backing himself in!

[LostDoggy]

I think it's the first match i have actually seen him boss the forwards, basically in a way of showing no respect, where he was confident in his own ability to win every contest.

Make sense?

[LostDoggy]

Carlton Supporters behind us

"that little kid again"

"Here he goes again"

"who is the little kid"

Dahlhaus getting a lot of notice!

[Topdog]

I think it's the first match i have actually seen him boss the forwards, basically in a way of showing no respect, where he was confident in his own ability to win every contest.

Make sense?

So look like Lake? :cool:

[LostDoggy]

So look like Lake? :cool:

Yep, spot on.

[westdog54]

So look like Lake? :cool:


Yep, spot on.

Very, very high praise there.

[LostDoggy]

Thought Willams was BOG tonight and Jones had his best game

[Mantis]

I think it's the first match i have actually seen him boss the forwards, basically in a way of showing no respect, where he was confident in his own ability to win every contest.

Make sense?

So he played like Brian Lake used too.

[westdog54]

So he played like Brian Lake used too.


So look like Lake? :cool:

You're about 4 posts too late Mantis;). But I think the concensus is he played like Brian.

[Greystache]

Jones is doing a terrific job as the second ruckman/forward, I just hope he doesn't get hurt. Bazza gets double/triple team when he's rucking, but the young small forwards are helping even the contest up.

[Scraggers]

Its good to knock back a frothy or two and turn this up really loud

1ftQ9Bp1frk


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Love it !!

Bet ya my bourbon tastes better than the Filth's latte

[SonofScray]

Did enjoy Wee Man's couple of goals. I thought he showed a bit again in his third AFL game, a few good blocks and was in the right spots when it counted. He just strikes me as a kid who knows where the goals are.

[Mantis]

You're about 4 posts too late Mantis;). But I think the concensus is he played like Brian.

Get stuffed WD. ;)

We haven't much to celebrate this year so I'm making the most of it...

[LostDoggy]

Bar Picken on Murphy but I don't know if Murphy is taggable anymore.

However we were all worried about the backline match ups and

Wood embarrassed Walker.
Murphy killed Gartlett.
Morris smashed Betts.

And Griffen well beaten in the first qtr was released in a great move by Eade.

If it wasn't for those shorts I wouldnt have noticed Eddie out there.

[westdog54]

Get stuffed WD. ;)

We haven't much to celebrate this year so I'm making the most of it...

Fair Call. I'll give you that.

Sidebar: Williams really played like Lake today didn't he?:D

[LostDoggy]

I mentioned i had good free seats before the game, but wow, best i've ever had at a game.
Row A on the wing behind the Carlton bench on level 2. The guy behind me had a yell to Mitch Robinson who turned around and thought it came from his bench.
Back to the game, god was i happy.
Williams, Wood and Dale were just brilliant. Wood destroyed Walks and Williams was just awesome. Imagine if we ever got a proper Lake back there... not very confident on that this season though

Hooper has the biggest tank for a little fatboy. Great pressure, held Yarran and got one of his goals from out-running his man. Getting the second proper crumming work was great as well and for the first time, he looked like he really has a place in the league. Very happy with that, it's been a long time since we've had a proper small crumber and now we've nearly got 2.

Hudson was brilliant as stated, Griff has a ripper last quarter and it's so good to have a fitter Coons running again.

Vespa possibly deserves a game and what happens with Barlow? pending matchups against North, Stack might be a chance as well.

Also Ratten, thanks a lot for playing Bower forward and Hendo back. Worked a treat. I also enjoyed Russell as the sub, particularly when you drop Tuohey and Carrazo while playing AJ as a back. brilliant.

Another fun fact about Carlton. While we have beaten the same amount of top 8 teams, atleast we beat a top 4 team

[Dogmatic]

I'm rapt with the performance today! Finally we seem to have adopted the forward press and it's paying dividends. I will admit that i was calling for Eade's head earlier this year but he has won me back. great effort.

Hooper - he may not have had a lot of the ball but he along with Dahlhaus add a great dynamic to our fwd line. he seemed to work had too.

Williams was really good, one of his best games.

I thought Markovic was pretty good even though im generally not massive fan of him.

Cooney is back. He is finally nailing those shos for goal on the run again.

One negative was Josh Hill......he's just not interested. I hope he never plays for us again.

[LostDoggy]

Running the rule over the Carton Forward line and Midfield

Betts - 65% disposal efficiency,11 goal assists,50 tackles,88% goal kick efficiency, 27 goals
Kreuzer - 70% DE , 4 GA , 16 T , 24% GKE , 2 goals
Walker - 71% DE , 10 GA , 37 T , 83% GKE , 36 goals
Houlihan - 71% DE , 4 GA , 10 T , 11% GKE , no goals
Waite - 64% DE , 12 GA , 22 T , 66% GKE ,27 contested marks, 16 goals
Garlett - 59% DE , 7 GA , 58 T , 84% GKE , 35 goals

Betts and Garlett are the small fast defensive/ offensive cornerstones , roving and crumbing the specialty, Walker has added to the mix with his ability to find space , Waite is the tall target his contested marking the linchpin to their F50 movement , Kreuzer and Houlihan are the weakest links and can be pressured into making mistakes , the use of a tight mobile defensive screen at the top of the F50 the key to stopping them finding targets , quick fast accurate ball movement the key to breaking the press on the rebound, the use of Griffen dropping back as the extra man will be key

Gibbs - 76% disposal efficiency, 226 kicks , 96 handballs , 45 tackles , 103 marks, 9 contested marks , 49 rebound 50,s , 9 goal assist
Judd - 67% DE , 173 K , 198 HB , 90 T , 38 M , 2 CM , 62 inside 50,s , 20 GA
Simpson - 70% DE , 198 K , 93 HB , 54 T ,73 M , 3 CM , 69 I 50,s , 13 GA
Murphy - 73% DE , 230 K , 174 HB , 68 T , 66 M , 1 CM , 59 I 50,s ,10 GA
Robinson - 68% DE , 179 K , 111 HB ,50 T, 41 clangers , 75 M ,8 CM , 58 I 50,s , 5 GA

The most obvious point is their ability to break laterally to find space . Gibbs drops back as the extra man and finds space his rebound 50,s a key to their switch of play , Ward is the best man on man matchup to shut him down . Judd is the stat monster, his enormous workrate tight in the contests then working forward to create goals has to be contained Picken has to work him over like he did to Ablett , Simpson works as the 3rd link and works across the ground to create angles to get the ball forward , Murphy works as the 2nd link with Judd dangerous as he ducks his head to get free kicks he has 38 frees for tackles have to be hard and low , Robinson gets on the defensive side of the contest and is the weakest link in their midfield put pressure on him and he makes mistakes

Tough game but we can break their two level press ( 1st level Betts , Garlett and Walker I 50) ( 2nd level Judd, Simpson, Murphy top of the 50 ) by quick accurate ball movement , players will have to work hard to create space to provide targets , any delays in decision making will give them too much time to block/ cover spaces ,we have to stay with our zones and not have players pulled in close to the contest , we have to finish the 1ST quarter very strongly to break up any momentum they might be trying build , the same with the start of the 3RD come out hard and shut down their lateral movement and hurt them on the scoreboard

Dogs by 19 points
First Goal Gia ( free kick )
BOG Ward

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Well , I got a few points right anyway :rolleyes: ( OK not the score , FG or BOG )


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[KT31]

Great win.
May have to stay in the States.
Have been here for the the last 4 games and we have won.
I'm away for the next two so we should be right for at least them.(touch wood):D
Hope you are recording all of these for me SS.:):):)

[Dry Rot]

Haven't seen or heard the game - working. :(

Sounds like Williams has stepped up in Lake's absence.

How did Higgins go in defence this week?

If well, is this where he belongs?

[boydogs]

Chris Grant's influence seems to be helping Williams & Jones?

[Hotdog60]

Haven't seen or heard the game - working. :(

Sounds like Williams has stepped up in Lake's absence.

How did Higgins go in defence this week?

If well, is this where he belongs?

Higgins hasn't got much of a mention but I think he had a solid team game. I think he lined up forward to start with but was all over the place and on TV it was hard to see were he lined up at the bounce.

[SonofScray]

Higgins of the HBF has been very good. Wasn't as good last night as he has been in the past two weeks but he did some slick work, missed a chance to seal the game which was frustrating. Generally, the move down back has seen him rack up a lot of ball and start to have some positive impact on the game. Massive improvement really, given as a forward this season he has given us zilch.

Its interesting that he looks to be running free, unencumbered by injury etc. Maybe coming off half back he doesn't need to turn so often, taking the pressure of his groin? Or maybe he really was just in shit form until a few weeks ago and injuries were not an issue.

Anyway, if he kicks that goal I rate his game a B+, he didn't so he can have a C.

[LostDoggy]

Carlton Supporters behind us

"that little kid again"

"Here he goes again"

"who is the little kid"

Dahlhaus getting a lot of notice!

Whose house?

[always right]

I'm rapt with the performance today! Finally we seem to have adopted the forward press and it's paying dividends. I will admit that i was calling for Eade's head earlier this year but he has won me back. great effort.

Hooper - he may not have had a lot of the ball but he along with Dahlhaus add a great dynamic to our fwd line. he seemed to work had too.

Williams was really good, one of his best games.

I thought Markovic was pretty good even though im generally not massive fan of him.

Cooney is back. He is finally nailing those shos for goal on the run again.

One negative was Josh Hill......he's just not interested. I hope he never plays for us again.

For god's sake...any chance we can get through a round without potting this bloke? In a game where there was so much to get excited about, you decide to post this.

[AndrewP6]

For god's sake...any chance we can get through a round without potting this bloke? In a game where there was so much to get excited about, you decide to post this.

AR's not alone there.

[Dry Rot]

Higgins hasn't got much of a mention but I think he had a solid team game. I think he lined up forward to start with but was all over the place and on TV it was hard to see were he lined up at the bounce.


Higgins of the HBF has been very good. Wasn't as good last night as he has been in the past two weeks but he did some slick work, missed a chance to seal the game which was frustrating. Generally, the move down back has seen him rack up a lot of ball and start to have some positive impact on the game. Massive improvement really, given as a forward this season he has given us zilch.

Its interesting that he looks to be running free, unencumbered by injury etc. Maybe coming off half back he doesn't need to turn so often, taking the pressure of his groin? Or maybe he really was just in shit form until a few weeks ago and injuries were not an issue.

Anyway, if he kicks that goal I rate his game a B+, he didn't so he can have a C.

Thanks. Maybe he's found his best place to play now.

[Topdog]

Watching the match for the first time now. I only saw pieces in the last 3 weeks for various reasons so it's good to see.

Just before half time but thoughts:

* Reid whilst not getting a lot of the ball was important for us in the first half. His attack on the footy in the forward line was a real asset. Lots of hitting and tackling and 1 or 2 resulted in a goal.

* Hooper does some smart things. his stats to HT have been highlighted here but he created a goal with a tap off the ground to Ward - > Cooney -> Gia -> Griffen "off the ground". it was just a really intelligent piece of play that gets no stats.

* Williams looked on from the first minute. Lots of confidence in himself and I think that is the only thing he lacks.

* Oh forgot to add, how can anyone not love The Doll House.

[LostDoggy]

Its amazing how things change in 4 weeks!!

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/foxsportscomau-delivers-our-mid-season-report-card-and-asks-you-to-tell-us-how-your-clubs-going/story-e6frf3e3-1226076567950

[LostDoggy]

For god's sake...any chance we can get through a round without potting this bloke? In a game where there was so much to get excited about, you decide to post this.
I thought Josh did well when he come on, missed that goal but so dd some others.

[Dry Rot]

Watching the match for the first time now. I only saw pieces in the last 3 weeks for various reasons so it's good to see.

Just before half time but thoughts:

* Reid whilst not getting a lot of the ball was important for us in the first half. His attack on the footy in the forward line was a real asset. Lots of hitting and tackling and 1 or 2 resulted in a goal.

* Hooper does some smart things. his stats to HT have been highlighted here but he created a goal with a tap off the ground to Ward - > Cooney -> Gia -> Griffen "off the ground". it was just a really intelligent piece of play that gets no stats.

* Williams looked on from the first minute. Lots of confidence in himself and I think that is the only thing he lacks.

* Oh forgot to add, how can anyone not love The Doll House.

I finally got to watch it. For two and a bit quarters, we played better than I recall for a long time.

For years, I'd watch the ball just ping back out of our forward line. Yesterday it didn't, and our young forwards, normally hunted by defenders became the hunters.

Loved that. Almost by accident we seem to have a nice balance between old war horses like Hall and Gia and keen young chaps like Dollhouse, Jones and the WeeMan.

I like the way the last three hunt with intent.

[LostDoggy]

Delighted that Willliams played a game where he showed confidence and authority.

[Dry Rot]

Delighted that Willliams played a game where he showed confidence and authority.

Yes, he was good, wasn't he?

Perhaps this is the silver lining from having key players out:

Lake out, Williams given more responsibility

Hall out, Jones given more responsibility

Cooney out, Grif given more responsibility

[westdog54]

Yes, he was good, wasn't he?

Perhaps this is the silver lining from having key players out:

Lake out, Williams given more responsibility

Hall out, Jones given more responsibility

Cooney out, Grif given more responsibility

There are some players who have had to do a lot of growing up this year, and it really is wonderful to see them step up to the challenge and really prove themselves as footballers.

[LostDoggy]

Yes, he was good, wasn't he?

Perhaps this is the silver lining from having key players out:

Lake out, Williams given more responsibility

Hall out, Jones given more responsibility

Cooney out, Grif given more responsibility

Seems a shame we didn't play the kids more last year, doesn't it? ;)

Ah well, that's in the past now, glad we're doing it now and getting some real depth into the squad.

[aker39]

I just watched last quarter again. Anyone that still has the game, have a look with 5.40 to play.
Dale Morris runs 25 metres with the flight of the ball in to a pack of about 6 players, with not a hint of hesitation. Got crunched big time. Stayed down for a while, brushed himself off and went again

The guy is a star

[LostDoggy]

Was that the one to the left of screen, and Wood or Murph runs it out to the camera wing?

[azabob]

I just watched last quarter again. Anyone that still has the game, have a look with 5.40 to play.
Dale Morris runs 25 metres with the flight of the ball in to a pack of about 6 players, with not a hint of hesitation. Got crouched big time. Stayed down for a while, brushed himself off and went again

The guy is a star.

That play was mentioned on I think ABC and how the coaching staff hearts would be in their mouths as he has no regard or fear for his personal safety even though the game was won.

Im glad over the last few weeks we as a forum are starting to recognise how well he has actually played this year.
I think we all know he has had a great year but we have not said it out loud mainly due to a lot of other things were going wrong.

Again another rookie success story.

[aker39]

Was that the one to the left of screen, and Wood or Murph runs it out to the camera wing?


Yep, that's the one.

[LostDoggy]

Yeah, I noticed that on the replay too. Eyes totally on the ball and got crunched.

[Desipura]

I just watched last quarter again. Anyone that still has the game, have a look with 5.40 to play.
Dale Morris runs 25 metres with the flight of the ball in to a pack of about 6 players, with not a hint of hesitation. Got crunched big time. Stayed down for a while, brushed himself off and went again

The guy is a star

Agree, one of my first picked each week.