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Dry Rot
20-09-2011, 12:02 AM
I'm sure everyone is as upset as me over the Saints losing their coach ;) , just at the time 4 other clubs (including Freo) have appointed new coaches.

Three of the leading candidate assistant coaches are now taken, leaving Cameron, Burns and retread coaches like Laidley, Eade and Craig, and possibly Williams from GWS.

Who will end up coaching the Saints? Has Lyon's late move really left them in the lurch?

AndrewP6
20-09-2011, 12:04 AM
Eade.

I'm determined to get one coaching pick right!

Greystache
20-09-2011, 12:07 AM
I can't see Eade getting the St Kilda job. It was widely known St kilda considered the Bulldogs to be mentally weak the past few years, i cant see them appointing the coach that was in charge during that time.

Dry Rot
20-09-2011, 12:18 AM
I can't see Eade getting the St Kilda job. It was widely known St kilda considered the Bulldogs to be mentally weak the past few years, i cant see them appointing the coach that was in charge during that time.

You're probably right. Funny enough, I thought Eade might get the Demons gig - he would have been good for them IMO.

Should they go for experience (seems out of favour now) or take on of the recently unsuccessful candidates?

Mantis
20-09-2011, 07:59 AM
I hope it's Scott Watters just to make Buckley's job a little harder.

As with us the St.Kilda job is a tough one due to the state of their list.

LostDoggy
20-09-2011, 08:08 AM
I hope it's Scott Watters just to make Buckley's job a little harder.

As with us the St.Kilda job is a tough one due to the state of their list.

This. In fact anyone left at Collingwood, the boot studder, the orange lady. Anyone to make the puppet strings a little harder to be pulled for Bucks :)

Desipura
20-09-2011, 08:50 AM
I hope it's Scott Watters just to make Buckley's job a little harder.

As with us the St.Kilda job is a tough one due to the state of their list.

Our list is in a better state than St Kilda's but I do get your point.
Pumping games into Tutt, Schofield, Jones, Roughead, Dahlhaus will ensure we do not bottom right.
I have a feeling B Mac will love Dahlhaus's ability to tackle and never give up. ;)

1eyedog
20-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Burns has pulled out of the Saints job, he is staying at West Coast.

Mofra
20-09-2011, 10:00 AM
I hope it's Scott Watters just to make Buckley's job a little harder.

As with us the St.Kilda job is a tough one due to the state of their list.
I'd add to that the off-filed dramas make them far less attractive than the Bulldogs

Bulldog Revolution
20-09-2011, 10:03 AM
Given that 4 other clubs have selected their new coaches the Saints can take their time and interview all the best and brightest assistants

Pelchen can handle the list management stuff. As much as none of us would like Pelchen he does seem to know what he is doing with a list.

Mantis
20-09-2011, 10:08 AM
Our list is in a better state than St Kilda's but I do get your point.
Pumping games into Tutt, Schofield, Jones, Roughead, Dahlhaus will ensure we do not bottom right.
I have a feeling B Mac will love Dahlhaus's ability to tackle and never give up. ;)

Pretty sure St.Kilda supporters could real off some 'no name' players too...

Maddog37
20-09-2011, 10:15 AM
I like guys that have coached a team in their own right even at lower levels as they are more rounded.

I hope Robert Harvey gets the gig though as it would be an absolute shambles. They may get someone like Harvey and put an Eade type as manager or something though.....

bornadog
20-09-2011, 10:44 AM
I like guys that have coached a team in their own right even at lower levels as they are more rounded.

I hope Robert Harvey gets the gig though as it would be an absolute shambles. They may get someone like Harvey and put an Eade type as manager or something though.....

Gut feel is they will pick Harvey.

LostDoggy
20-09-2011, 11:00 AM
R Harvey would have get a mentor alongside him like Hird/Thompson.

Mofra
20-09-2011, 11:28 AM
R Harvey would have get a mentor alongside him like Hird/Thompson.
At about 1am on Sunday morning Molly Meldrum was beign interviewed on RRR.

He may have been a bit drunk (sounded it) - basically said he wanted Danny Frawley as a coach with Max Hudgeton as an assitant. Also wanted Lyon to take Zac Dawson with him to Freo.

Asked what he thought of Lyon, Molly said that if his house was on fire and Ross Lyon woke him up, he'd stay in bed :D

LostDoggy
20-09-2011, 11:49 AM
At about 1am on Sunday morning Molly Meldrum was beign interviewed on RRR.

He may have been a bit drunk (sounded it) - basically said he wanted Danny Frawley as a coach with Max Hudgeton as an assitant. Also wanted Lyon to take Zac Dawson with him to Freo.

Asked what he thought of Lyon, Molly said that if his house was on fire and Ross Lyon woke him up, he'd stay in bed :D

Hehe. Sounds like a jilted lover.

LostDoggy
20-09-2011, 12:06 PM
At about 1am on Sunday morning Molly Meldrum was beign interviewed on RRR.

He may have been a bit drunk (sounded it) - basically said he wanted Danny Frawley as a coach with Max Hudgeton as an assitant. Also wanted Lyon to take Zac Dawson with him to Freo.

Asked what he thought of Lyon, Molly said that if his house was on fire and Ross Lyon woke him up, he'd stay in bed :D

Molly often gets interviewed after a few too many Scotches. I heard him last year after the finals being interviewed by Finey, babbling crap about the Saints and Storm.

Mofra
20-09-2011, 12:09 PM
Molly often gets interviewed after a few too many Scotches. I heard him last year after the finals being interviewed by Finey, babbling crap about the Saints and Storm.
Always good for a chuckle, even if his rantings are a bit BF-esque.

His Zac Dawson rant was great :D

Remi Moses
20-09-2011, 02:17 PM
At about 1am on Sunday morning Molly Meldrum was beign interviewed on RRR.

He may have been a bit drunk (sounded it) - basically said he wanted Danny Frawley as a coach with Max Hudgeton as an assitant. Also wanted Lyon to take Zac Dawson with him to Freo.

Asked what he thought of Lyon, Molly said that if his house was on fire and Ross Lyon woke him up, he'd stay in bed :D

I heard him on RRR's party show after our infamous game against them last year!
Was scathing on Lyon ( pretty pissed ) .
Back to the topic Peter Rohde for mine.

Ghost Dog
20-09-2011, 02:40 PM
Gut feel is they will pick Harvey.

My family lives over in the west. Harvey has quite a lot of interest in the mining sector.
Big house, kids in school, and plenty of well heeled friends. More unlikely than likely to head back to Melbourne I am told.

bornadog
20-09-2011, 03:15 PM
My family lives over in the west. Harvey has quite a lot of interest in the mining sector.
Big house, kids in school, and plenty of well heeled friends. More unlikely than likely to head back to Melbourne I am told.

I was talking about Robert Harvey.

1eyedog
20-09-2011, 04:05 PM
My family lives over in the west. Harvey has quite a lot of interest in the mining sector.
Big house, kids in school, and plenty of well heeled friends. More unlikely than likely to head back to Melbourne I am told.

Are we talking about R Harvey or M Harvey here?

Nuggety Back Pocket
20-09-2011, 05:04 PM
I hope it's Scott Watters just to make Buckley's job a little harder.

As with us the St.Kilda job is a tough one due to the state of their list.

Scott Watters is apparently in contention. You would have to think this is Rocket's last roll of the dice however in getting another senior job. It does appear to be the era of the untried coaches apart from Ross Lyon given the announcements in the past week. Hard to see Robert Harvey getting the nod and you would think that Mark Harvey would be headed to Essendon or GWS given the strong Bombers influence in these two clubs, as an assistant coach.

Rocket Science
20-09-2011, 05:06 PM
Whoever it is, they've enlisted Brad Johnson's opinion as part of their 'process'...

Saints appoint senior coach selection panel (http://www.saints.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/5315/newsid/123811/default.aspx)

"The selection panel will be assisted by a specialist advisory group consisting of:
- Former AFL player, Brad Johnson will advise on football matters"

AndrewP6
20-09-2011, 06:05 PM
Are we talking about R Harvey or M Harvey here?

Bornadog was talking about Robert, Ghost Dog about Mark.

Crossed wires :)

bornadog
20-09-2011, 06:08 PM
Bornadog was talking about Robert, Ghost Dog about Mark.

Crossed wires :)

If GD read the thread he would have picked that;)

AndrewP6
20-09-2011, 06:13 PM
If GD read the thread he would have picked that;)

Weeeelllll, I didn't want to say, but.... ;)

Flamethrower
20-09-2011, 08:19 PM
My short list for the St Kilda job....

Jason Akermanis
Malcolm Blight (again)
Peter Rohde

Bulldog Revolution
20-09-2011, 08:34 PM
Brad Johnson to be part of the selection panel

Does this mean they want to have a good look at Eade and Cameron?

Mofra
21-09-2011, 10:25 AM
My short list for the St Kilda job....

Jason Akermanis
Malcolm Blight (again)
Peter Rohde
How could you leave out Ken Judge?

The Doctor
21-09-2011, 10:31 AM
How could you leave out Ken Judge?

or Grant Thomas

ledge
21-09-2011, 10:38 AM
I find Brad being involved a bit strange, he wasnt in a flag winning team and comes from a club that has struggled in every way during his career.
Saints are very much the equivalent of us they might as well of grabbed someone else inside their own club.

Brads a great bloke but I dont know if he brings anything to the table on picking a coach.
Then again he could be working undercover and trying to recommend the biggest dud :)

Mofra
21-09-2011, 11:19 AM
I find Brad being involved a bit strange, he wasnt in a flag winning team and comes from a club that has struggled in every way during his career.
Richard Hadlee won a flag in his 4th game - I'd take Brad's knowledge over Hadlee's, thanks*


* Brad may just be there to weed out any potential "Rhodes" ;)

bulldogsman
21-09-2011, 11:47 AM
or Grant Thomas

or Tim Watson

Bulldog Revolution
21-09-2011, 12:14 PM
I find Brad being involved a bit strange, he wasnt in a flag winning team and comes from a club that has struggled in every way during his career.


Played in 5 preliminary finals under what 5 coaches, played 350+ AFL games, was a highly respected captain and leader.

Why is winning a flag the be all and end all of knowing something about, or having something to offer when selecting a coach?

ledge
21-09-2011, 12:24 PM
Played in 5 preliminary finals under what 5 coaches, played 350+ AFL games, was a highly respected captain and leader.

Why is winning a flag the be all and end all of knowing something about, or having something to offer when selecting a coach?

Not just the finals I mentioned club similarity too,where did I say be all and end all combine them all. Read my total post dont just pick out one sentence.

Nathan Burke is very much the same as Johnson and he has been chosen, 2 of the same.

I am happy he has that job but its certainly left field, seems right has been given up to left this year in many ways in the AFL coaching system.

Bulldog Revolution
21-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Not just the finals I mentioned club similarity too,where did I say be all and end all combine them all. Read my total post dont just pick out one sentence.

Nathan Burke is very much the same as Johnson and he has been chosen, 2 of the same.

I am happy he has that job but its certainly left field, seems right has been given up to left this year in many ways in the AFL coaching system.

You wrote that you weren't sure Johnson brought anything to the table when choosing a coach, which is a fair enough opinion to add. I didn't agree and as a result posted some reasons why he might.

You also wrote that:

I find Brad being involved a bit strange, he wasnt in a flag winning team and comes from a club that has struggled in every way during his career.

I believe the bulldogs during Brads time were highly successful without tasting the ultimate success, but also had periods of immense struggles.

To me it seemed that a large part of what you were saying was that because Brad hadn't tasted the ultimate success then he didn't have much to offer, but i do acknowledge you mentioned the similarities between the two clubs recent performance.

If what you wanted to say was what you've said in your second post that Johnson and Burke appear to be from too similar backgrounds then thats a fine and reasonable opinion to express.

1eyedog
21-09-2011, 04:20 PM
The rate him high and that's all that matters for them.

Scraggers
23-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Saints sound out Eade for top job

Link (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-sound-out-eade-for-top-job-20110922-1kn9j.html)

KT31
23-09-2011, 10:55 AM
Would love to see Eade get a coaching job.
Would not be happy if he improved the Saint's.

LostDoggy
23-09-2011, 03:46 PM
Saints and Eade would be a great fit. Open our other eyes for one second, it would be a shame to have the players like Nick Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard, Hayes etc and not have them under a run 'n' gun environment. This team has been choked down by the boring game plan that StKilda has blessed us with the passed few years. Granted it almost got them a flag, but we had to watch that dribble.

But then if we close that 'other' eye again, someone like Rohde would be perfect.

DragzLS1
24-09-2011, 01:33 PM
Eade for them or maybe even multhouse think about it he said he would coach until 2013 which is when Ross Lyon ran out of contract and multhouse used to coach there didn't he? But now that they need a coach he may just go.. Anyway who ever they get I hope we slap em in the next season at every meeting :)

ledge
24-09-2011, 03:45 PM
Eade for them or maybe even multhouse think about it he said he would coach until 2013 which is when Ross Lyon ran out of contract and multhouse used to coach there didn't he? But now that they need a coach he may just go.. Anyway who ever they get I hope we slap em in the next season at every meeting :)

Malthouses playing career started at St Kilda, then Richmond, he started his coaching career with us, went to WC then Collingwood.
Wouldnt be surprised to see him back at the Saints but I dont believe they have a lot of money to give so it would be a love job.

Remi Moses
24-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Royce Hart for mine

ledge
24-09-2011, 05:19 PM
Royce Hart for mine

With Rhode as assistant:D