Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Bullies
Dickson has offered us absolutely nothing this year yet keeps his spot. Bevo's skate boarding buddy Smith comes in. Surprised then he didn't play the injured Gowers. He will have all his buddies in the team soon.
We will lose guys like McLean who will go to another club and dominate playing in their right position.
That's a pretty unfair post.
On the basis that you don't like the team lineup you infer that we, a professional sports club, selected someone because he's Bevo's skateboard buddy and has some plan that ends up with all his buddies in the team.
And then asserted that Mclean will leave us, because he's a victim of being played in the wrong position.
C'mon...you're better than that.
Yes, Mclean had a good year in the midfield last year. But with Libba coming back in, and Bailey Smith demanding selection our midfield unit has to become more flexible. And to be honest, its not as if this is a role foreign to Mclean; he's done it all bar last year.
To me it's clear he's broken some in-house, non-negotiables last week that has resulted in his demotion.
As for Dicko, he still kicked 2 goals last week and worked hard (if not noticeably).
Roarke has according to reports done well and deserves a chance.
I was hoping we'd bring Lewis Young in this week, but he's clearly in selectors thoughts (as is Mclean).
Macrae & Libba's egos have survived the ignomy of being dropped. I suspect Mclean will do similar and earn his spot back soon.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
With McLean & Libba out, I’d expect to see Bailey Williams with midfield minutes.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
The question I have in regards to Mclean is does he play midfield or forward when he drops back to VFL level? Is there any point playing midfield if he cant get a game in the guts in the seniors?
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Collingwood have really doubled down on the tall timber (adding in Ben Reid late).
It could backfire on them on a quick deck like Marvel and hand us an advantage.
Or they could use their six thousand tall targets to tear us a new one.
*crosses fingers*
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Yeah quite a statement there from Bevo.
Toby has been out of form in 2019 so not surprising but wouldn’t have expected him to be omitted. Dale and Gardner no surprises there. Hopefully when Toby comes back he can recapture that form again. Jack Macrae even though he has been ultra consistent he hasn’t been as damaging in previous years. Need to play him in the midfield. Josh Dunkley has thrived there. Josh was very good in the latter part of 2018 as well.
Look forward to see how Schache goes on Sunday. Hopefully he can do some damage up forward. Wasn’t a good game last time we play the Pies for Schack. Tim English another I’m hoping takes on the challenge. Was very good last week.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
I don't get this whole out of position point of view re McLean. Sure he's not playing as many minutes where he has demonstrated he can be his best, but, it's not like we're asking him to play in a back pocket.
The truth is he's always played forward of centre if not on the ball. If he's not doing what we want of him in that role, and we need him to be doing what we want of him in that role, then something needs to be done about it.
Whether it's the right call or not, time will tell. Though in a team that is struggling for natural forwards, loaded up with half backs and has many other players who play their best footy in the middle rather than forward something has to give, and for whatever reason, Toby's number was up.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
ratsmac
Toby has been down on form from last year's efforts but I didn't think he was that bad that it warrants dropping him. He has probably not kicked enough goals I suppose but apart from that I thought he was playing half forward (tricky position) pretty well. He tackles well and seems to create opportunities to score so it seems a quite harsh decision to me. Anyway obviously they coaches want more from him and want him to fix his deficiencies at Footscray.
When he ran into an open goal in the first quarter and simply had to pick the ball up to kick the easiest of goals...couldn’t do it, accidentally soccered it and by a miracle It rolled through (mostly as the defender trying to touch it smashed into the left hand post)...
That counts as a goal but wasn’t ‘really’ (and yes, I know it’s not how but how many)...he is horribly out of form and the fact that we love his effort and team first attitude can only cover that up for so long. Rather than asking why, we should probably all be asking what has taken so long...
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Doggy
Just heard from Roarke’s dad that Roarke is a definite in.
If that’s true maybe don’t post it on the internet...don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to get the info but Collingwood WILL find out soon enough...why hand it to them on a platter.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Bullies
Dickson has offered us absolutely nothing this year yet keeps his spot. Bevo's skate boarding buddy Smith comes in. Surprised then he didn't play the injured Gowers. He will have all his buddies in the team soon.
We will lose guys like McLean who will go to another club and dominate playing in their right position.
I actually think our fwd line functions better when Dickson is playing. Maybe his experience helps the others... not sure. I like him in the team.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
mjp
When he ran into an open goal in the first quarter and simply had to pick the ball up to kick the easiest of goals...couldn’t do it, accidentally soccered it and by a miracle It rolled through (mostly as the defender trying to touch it smashed into the left hand post)...
That counts as a goal but wasn’t ‘really’ (and yes, I know it’s not how but how many)...he is horribly out of form and the fact that we love his effort and team first attitude can only cover that up for so long. Rather than asking why, we should probably all be asking what has taken so long...
Toby has been out of form for most of the season and I am surprised it took this long to drop him.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
With Libba out it makes sense to chuck McLean back in the middle instead he's dropped and another HBF is brought into the team. It's just another one to add to the long list of questionable changes from our MC. At least they're consistent. Hopefully we'll see Lloyd, Roarke and numerous others not equipped to run through the midfield get plenty of time in there.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
With Libba out it makes sense to chuck McLean back in the middle instead he's dropped and another HBF is brought into the team. It's just another one to add to the long list of questionable changes from our MC. At least they're consistent. Hopefully we'll see Lloyd, Roarke and numerous others not equipped to run through the midfield get plenty of time in there.
I tend to agree that if they were to give McLean another chance this might have been the week but I do believe the MC has got things right particularly over the last 2 weeks and we could very well see a quick bounce back into the senior side by McLean
It's important that we test some of the fringe players in a managed way before the end of the season to help with list management decisions.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
With Libba out it makes sense to chuck McLean back in the middle instead he's dropped and another HBF is brought into the team. It's just another one to add to the long list of questionable changes from our MC. At least they're consistent. Hopefully we'll see Lloyd, Roarke and numerous others not equipped to run through the midfield get plenty of time in there.
Roarke is not another HBF added to the team.
He has been playing well at Footscray and the reports indicate as a type of defensive forward. Last week I went to the Footscray game and he appeared to play wing half forward and was very creative.
He deserves hi spot.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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GVGjr
I tend to agree that if they were to give McLean another chance this might have been the week but I do believe the MC has got things right particularly over the last 2 weeks and we could very well see a quick bounce back into the senior side by McLean
It's important that we test some of the fringe players in a managed way before the end of the season to help with list management decisions.
Yeah no issues I just don't see it should be at the expense of a player of McLean's calibre. He hasn't been great in 2019 but in no way shape or form has been below best 22 standard.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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G-Mo77
Yeah no issues I just don't see it should be at the expense of a player of McLean's calibre. He hasn't been great in 2019 but in no way shapemor form has been below best 22 standard.
Lippa has come in and basically taken his opportunity and Mclean’s Spot.
I am sure Toby will get back into the team