Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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bornadog
When I said Dale wasn't AFL standard, I recall a comment - all good, just happy you agree with me.
As for Hayes, you could be right, but I would like to give him a go at this level and not judge him on two games.
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GVGjr
He played 5 games straight
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bornadog
Stop spoiling a good argument :D
And with irrefutable facts at that.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Happy Days
Yeah Young if nothing else looks more physically capable of playing on key forwards than Zaine right now. I'm pretty impressed with how much he has developed his physique in the past 12 months, and hopefully some increased strength will be matched by some increased footy smarts.
I have said it for a long time now, Cordy is not a KPP, and needs to take the third tall. As for Young, well he has been asked to go back to the VFL and work on certain things, and I think he is ready to come in.
As for Gardner, I was surprised we took him in the mid season draft. Maybe the recruiters see more in him than I do, or we were desperate for another tall
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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bornadog
I have said it for a long time now, Cordy is not a KPP, and needs to take the third tall. As for Young, well he has been asked to go back to the VFL and work on certain things, and I think he is ready to come in.
As for Gardner, I was surprised we took him in the mid season draft. Maybe the recruiters see more in him than I do, or we were desperate for another tall
Is that the role Wood and Crozier do?
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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chef
Is that the role Wood and Crozier do?
No - they are HBF
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In: Schache, Duryea, Lewis Young, West
Out: Gardner, Dale, Cordy, Libba
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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bornadog
No - they are HBF
So who currently takes the third tall?
I think one of Wood or Crozier does already and they are competent at doing it(the third tall defender usually is a HBF). I dont get the need to shoehorn Cordy into the team in a role hes not suited when he doesnt deserve to be in it.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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chef
So who currently takes the third tall?
I think one of Wood or Crozier does already and they are competent at doing it(the third tall defender usually is a HBF). I dont get the need to shoehorn Cordy into the team in a role hes not suited when he doesnt deserve to be in it.
You are right. Cordy is a KPP. If he isn't a KPP at AFL level, then he is a KPP at VFL level.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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mjp
You are right. Cordy is a KPP. If he isn't a KPP at AFL level, then he is a KPP at VFL level.
Agreed, he has to play tall because he and the likes of Wood and Morris don't get enough of the ball and aren't good enough users to just sit on the flanks. We would have a very static back line
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In Lewis Young Schache West
Out Dale Gardner Libba
Cordy gets another chance and with Young and Trengove down back won’t have to play tall.
I’d love Trengove In ruck and English playing forward more but we need Trengove on Cox.
This is a very winnable game this week .
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Can I do my weekly:
- Who do we shut down out of Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Treloar and who does it?
- What are the defensive match-ups? De Goey and Stephenson need shut-downs.
- Who is assigned to make sure that Howe doesn't control the game??
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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mjp
Can I do my weekly:
- Who do we shut down out of Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Treloar and who does it?
- What are the defensive match-ups? De Goey and Stephenson need shut-downs.
- Who is assigned to make sure that Howe doesn't control the game??
I'm only sure about the first of the midfield match-ups:
Macrae to Pendlebury
Duryea to Sidebottom
Head to head with/rotate through Treloar. I don't think we have anyone naturally capable of going with him for pace or running capability, it's concerning. So I guess we've got to try and hurt them through Bont and Dunks more than they can hurt us through him.
Wood to DeGoey, Crozier to Stephenson
The midfield and defencive carriers are in charge of making sure Howe doesn't control the game. Suckling has the tank and willingness to push each way quickly and regularly, perhaps he can help.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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jeemak
I'm only sure about the first of the midfield match-ups:
Macrae to Pendlebury
Duryea to Sidebottom
Head to head with/rotate through Treloar. I don't think we have anyone naturally capable of going with him for pace or running capability, it's concerning. So I guess we've got to try and hurt them through Bont and Dunks more than they can hurt us through him.
Wood to DeGoey, Crozier to Stephenson
The midfield and defencive carriers are in charge of making sure Howe doesn't control the game. Suckling has the tank and willingness to push each way quickly and regularly, perhaps he can help.
I don't think we can (or should) tag them all...pick one out of Treloar, Pendlebury and Sidebottom...shut them down and live with the consequences of the other two.
Crozier seems to play his best 'high' and as an interceptor...Stephenson needs a HARD shutdown. Is Crozier right for that job?
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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mjp
I don't think we can (or should) tag them all...pick one out of Treloar, Pendlebury and Sidebottom...shut them down and live with the consequences of the other two.
Crozier seems to play his best 'high' and as an interceptor...Stephenson needs a HARD shutdown. Is Crozier right for that job?
Sidebottom needs to be shut down. He does a lot of damage on the wing.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
mjp
I don't think we can (or should) tag them all...pick one out of Treloar, Pendlebury and Sidebottom...shut them down and live with the consequences of the other two.
Crozier seems to play his best 'high' and as an interceptor...Stephenson needs a HARD shutdown. Is Crozier right for that job?
I would go with Treloar and try and curb his influence.
With Stephenson, he is almost 190cm and can also leap and take a good mark. I would back Wood to play on him.
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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mjp
Crozier seems to play his best 'high' and as an interceptor...Stephenson needs a HARD shutdown. Is Crozier right for that job?
Do we have anyone in our defence (Besides Trngove who is limited in the type of player he can stand) who has the ability to 'shut down' an opponent?