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Originally Posted by
Remi Moses
Interesting hearing Mark Fine( grain of salt occasionally)
Commented how disappointing Griffon's been.
Gotta say I agree, he's been quiet
It can take a while to settle into the swing of things properly with a new side. He'll still be a good player, but I'm hoping he's best is well and truly behind him.
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I saw Lucas Markovic play for South Croydon on the weekend.
I think he ate Woofa.
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I really don't like seeing our ex-players going around for other clubs. Bernie Quinlan, Barry Round, Gary Dempsey, Brian Wilson, Leon Cameron, Dennis Collins, Jordan McMahon, Greg Epulston, Michael McKenna, Keenan Reynolds and the list goes on. David Thorpe, George Bisset, Alan Stoneham, Wayne Foreman, Peter Featherby, Ian Low, Shane Ellen. We've had a lot of handy to very good to Champion players leave for other clubs for whatever reason I'm sure others could add to the list. We've had some good pick ups too. Tony Liberatore, Peter Foster, Gordon Casey, Stuart Magee, Terry Wallace Jose Romeo, Paul Dimattina, Paul Hudson and Glen Coleman foremost among them IMO.
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Chris Burton dropped a large hint by turning up to training wearing Richmond socks one night.
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marcov
I hope he sells better than he kicks! :)
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
I hope he sells better than he kicks! :)
He'd want to, the package isn't stacking up to the price in this case..
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Hope he's harder in selling a house than he was the footy;)
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Seems like it's a common career choice. Ben Harrison is one too.
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Dennis Pagan is a real estate salesman too, or was one not long ago.
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Twodogs
Dennis Pagan is a real estate salesman too, or was one not long ago.
I think Den is more into rural property, Pagan's Paddocks!
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Was good to see Shaun Higgins kick the sealer against the team that was involved in that research programme a couple of years back. Just as long as he doesn't kick a goal against us! It was a pity he lost his way after such a promising start with us. I guess onjuries had a bit to do with it. He did play some good games off half-back for us towards the end.
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merantau
Was good to see Shaun Higgins kick the sealer against the team that was involved in that research programme a couple of years back. Just as long as he doesn't kick a goal against us! It was a pity he lost his way after such a promising start with us. I guess onjuries had a bit to do with it. He did play some good games off half-back for us towards the end.
Fair call. But he and the former coach not seeing eye to eye had a lot to do with it. Admitedly, him not doing what the old coach wanted was some part if it.
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Higgo is one that I feel no animosity towards. His career had stagnated and it was better for both parties to move on.
I reckon he'll get a shock at the lift in intensity when he comes up against us.
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A few different media folk have said Tutt was dropped for 'attitude reasons'. Not sure what that means.
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A fit and confident Higgins is shining at North this year, not off half back.
I guess that's another player position change that is working this year: Wood, Grant, Boyd, Dahl, Roughy, Picken, Wallis, Higgins.
Hard not to be critical of the past coach when the natural talent of players on the list last year rises to a new level.
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I see what you mean but he left us some pretty good traits instilled in some bloody good players. I wasn't much of a fan either but he's due at least part of the Cup.
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The drafting under McCartney really was great too you have to say.
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I'm not saying Macca didn't do anything good. But the mammoth improvement in players who used to player under him this year is breath takingly staggering. Wood, Grant, Dahl, Wally, Higgins, Boyd and Picken are arguably having their career best form. Our improvement (and Higgins improvement) is not due to incremental growth from young players, it is coming from these players who are now playing more natural footy, in positions that marry their skills sets for the betterment of the side. The common theme seems to be not being played essentially out of position by the (ex) coach.
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But maybe they are better players because of their experience under Macca playing in different positions or back at Footscray working on aspects of their game?
But the improvement this year has been immense.
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Interesting take on things from Higgins himself:
"I've always thought that's where I played my best footy, but I probably haven't got my body in a position to be able to play that in the modern game ,where it's probably the hardest-working position on the ground," Higgins said on Monday night as a guest on Fox Footy's On The Couch, which in itself is an endorsement of his season.
"All the ducks have lined up over the past 12 months and my footy is where I always wished it would be," he said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...#ixzz3iUKogtSo
I look at Dahl and Wally and think this is where they'd have been under previous administrations given our midfield injuries and losses this year. There's no doubt the latter has blossomed with continuity this year, but he was showing signs of being more than a negative player in patches between injuries last year. Dahl is making me look sillier by the day.
Picken has been a surprise, as has Boyd and the new coach really should be commended for seeing something in each of these players not many would have.
Wood had to play under a coaching team who rightly thought others like Roberts and Talia weren't ready for senior football consistently last year and didn't have Hamling to use, and I don't think any sane person would have used him as a key defender if they had viable alternatives to work with.
Roughead is the interesting one, his efforts in the ruck this year have been overrated and it will be interesting to see how his career progresses in the short to medium term.
Grant played his career best football under McCartney at the end of 2013, and was cruelled by injury and terrible output last year when he finally got his chances. He's also been dropped after indifferent form early in the year this year, and it's great he's now putting consistently productive games together.
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Nathan Brown - I want to play finals
Adam Cooney - I want to play in front of big crowds
Rhyanne Gryphon - I want a new start and want to play in finals
Sir Michael said it best: You cant always get what you want.
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I like Rylee Gruffknuckle personally.
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Griffin's a shadow of himself .
Probably a bit harsh on a shadow, as I'm sure it shows better leadership.
Higgins has been excellent, but against the big boys (forwhere North have recruited specifically for) he didn't fire a shot .
Finals will be interesting
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Nathan Brown - I want to play finals
Adam Cooney - I want to play in front of big crowds
Rhyanne Gryphon - I want a new start and want to play in finals
Sir Michael said it best: You cant always get what you want.
The spongey surface says hello;)
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Originally Posted by
Remi Moses
Griffin's a shadow of himself .
Probably a bit harsh on a shadow, as I'm sure it shows better leadership.
Higgins has been excellent, but against the big boys (forwhere North have recruited specifically for) he didn't fire a shot .
Finals will be interesting
You should take some time to check his finals record versus his regular season games.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Nathan Brown - I want to play finals
Adam Cooney - I want to play in front of big crowds
Rhyanne Gryphon - I want a new start and want to play in finals
Sir Michael said it best: You cant always get what you want.
To be fair Essendon's VFL side often crowds of almost 900. Yes 500 tecnically are only there to play the pokies but you can see the ground from parts of the gaming room. Probably.
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Twodogs
To be fair Essendon's VFL side often crowds of almost 900. Yes 500 tecnically are only there to play the pokies but you can see the ground from parts of the gaming room. Probably.
Is that from the all conquering bowls club? :D
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bulldogtragic
Is that from the all conquering bowls club? :D
I forgot the Saturday afternoon lawn bowls throng that can definatly see the ground. The must swell the number of people of people there to nearly 1250! And more than half of them are probably there to see the game.
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bulldogtragic
The common theme seems to be not being played essentially out of position by the (ex) coach.
Lest we forget that our current captain was frequently played as a defensive lock-down small defender under the previous coach.
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Sedat
Lest we forget that our current captain was frequently played as a defensive lock-down small defender under the previous coach.
And Brian Lake had no good footy left in him 3 years ago as a full back either. He'd be so handy right now for us coming into finals.
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Lake on Josh Hill last quarter of the GF. Lake stands up when it counts, Josh Hills career summed up perfectly.
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bulldogtragic
And Brian Lake had no good footy left in him 3 years ago as a full back either. He'd be so handy right now for us coming into finals.
That was a good decision from Macca
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bornadog
That was a good decision from Macca
He didn't want to stay
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Bulldog4life
He didn't want to stay
No comment
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bornadog
No comment
Are you saying BAD he wanted to stay?
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Bulldog4life
Are you saying BAD he wanted to stay?
I know he lost a lot of faith with the club when some of the coaches questioned if he was legitimately injured. They must have felt bad when it was proven he was injured.
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Bulldog4life
Are you saying BAD he wanted to stay?
Pushed out.
Doesn't matttr anyway, it is all in the past.
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bornadog
Pushed out.
Doesn't matttr anyway, it is all in the past.
Yep. We helped this three peat with a very generous trade and filled their glaring weakness. I hope we get some of the credit.