Always Right Match Committee - Round 8 Vs Carlton 2021

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If you were on the Western Bulldogs match committee what changes would you make after our Round 7 match against Richmond for our Round 8, 2021 match against Caaaaaaarlton at Marvel on Mother's Day?

For those new to these threads, please give a brief explanation for your changes ... this would add a lot of value to the discussion.

Bumpity Bump

No change. You *!*!*!*! it up, you fix it.

English in. Schache out.

The rest is confusing and our so called depth is a bit poor.

In- someone who can play on Harry.
Out- throw a dart at 5-6 players

Out: Martin , schache and JJ
In : sweet, vanders and Buku


We need to go through more of our list and see who else can play
I’m going to stick with west as he needs a few games under his belt.


Houli spoke after teh game that they have ready players to replace the 2 mature mids they lost, and trust in their system

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Originally Posted by bulldogtragic

No change. You *!*!*!*! it up, you fix it.

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Thank you … I need a laugh

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Originally Posted by macca

Out: Martin , schache and JJ
In : sweet, vanders and Buku


We need to go through more of our list and see who else can play
I’m going to stick with west as he needs a few games under his belt.


Houli spoke after teh game that they have ready players to replace the 2 mature mids they lost, and trust in their system

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I thought the decision to play Sweet and Lew Young in the ruck against GCS in the first half looked to be a fine combination with their dominance. This would allow English to play as a permanent forward where he is better suited. Vandemeer provides the ground speed we lack and JJ away from defence is exposed. Schache was poor tonight but so was Bruce.

Out Cordy ,not up to it as a KPD. Schache, alas completely devoid of confidence.
In Sweet/English Khamis/Young

West and JJ get another chance (just).

I'd be happy for JJ to be gone for Mcneill. He offers nothing as a half-forward. Westy had a poor game but we have more to learn about him - we know where JJ is at. I don't see VDM being back immediately, although it is a 9 day break.

English will be back so Schache has to be the one who goes.

Would love to find a way to get Buku in. Can Cordy go for him, or does that leave us too exposed for height?

English in for Schache. If English isn't right I'd give Josh one more week, but can't see Bevo being so kind.

JJ out for McNeill or Vandermeer or Weightman.

West gets another week. Although someone please tell him he isn't big enough to just run into the open arms of opponents at AFL level.

Would love to drop Cordy, but for what?

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Originally Posted by soupaman

English in for Schache. If English isn't right I'd give Josh one more week, but can't see Bevo being so kind.

JJ out for McNeill or Vandermeer or Weightman.

West gets another week. Although someone please tell him he isn't big enough to just run into the open arms of opponents at AFL level.

Would love to drop Cordy, but for what?

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What about giving Buku a go? I can’t see him doing worse than Cordy

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Originally Posted by Scraggers

What about giving Buku a go? I can’t see him doing worse than Cordy

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Not really a key defender though I didn't think. Certainly wouldn't have debuted him to play specifically on Riewoldt and a pissed off Richmond. Would like to see him though, but I suspect he is more gunning for one of Crozier, Wood or Duryeas spots.

Out: Martin, Schache
In: Sweet, Vandermeer

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Originally Posted by boydogs

Out: Martin, Schache
In: Sweet, Vandermeer

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Oooh this is different.

So we go one less tall (is this assuming English isn't right?) and while Martin wasn't great why are we dropping him and what does Sweet offer he doesn't?

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Originally Posted by soupaman

Would love to drop Cordy, but for what?

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Might sound harsh, but does it matter?

What does Cordy actually bring? If anyone says the ability to compete, losing almost every 1-v1 is not my idea of competing and I'm not even taking last night into consideration because he's never laying a glove on Lynch. He was set up to fail.

Cordy doesn't rebound, he's the slowest on the list, he doesn't mark the ball, he's undersized... I'm not sure what the point of playing him is? At AFL level you need to bring at least ONE standout trait. Young isn't the long term answer but at least when he plays well, he has the ability to read the play and intercept mark which allows us to win the ball back and attack. Cordy doesn't defend and he doesn't attack so why persist?

If it were up to me he wouldn't even be on the list.

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Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite

Might sound harsh, but does it matter?

What does Cordy actually bring? If anyone says the ability to compete, losing almost every 1-v1 is not my idea of competing and I'm not even taking last night into consideration because he's never laying a glove on Lynch. He was set up to fail.

Cordy doesn't rebound, he's the slowest on the list, he doesn't mark the ball, he's undersized... I'm not sure what the point of playing him is? At AFL level you need to bring at least ONE standout trait. Young isn't the long term answer but at least when he plays well, he has the ability to read the play and intercept mark which allows us to win the ball back and attack. Cordy doesn't defend and he doesn't attack so why persist?

If it were up to me he wouldn't even be on the list.

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I’m not sure I get what you mean. :D

It is an interesting point though, what AFL qualities does Zaine have? There isn’t anything he really excels at and with the deficiencies he has he is struggling to find a role.

Out: JJ, schache, Cordy, (not dropped, punted out of whiten oval)

In: English, vandermeer, don’t know

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Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite

Might sound harsh, but does it matter?

What does Cordy actually bring? If anyone says the ability to compete, losing almost every 1-v1 is not my idea of competing and I'm not even taking last night into consideration because he's never laying a glove on Lynch. He was set up to fail.

Cordy doesn't rebound, he's the slowest on the list, he doesn't mark the ball, he's undersized... I'm not sure what the point of playing him is? At AFL level you need to bring at least ONE standout trait. Young isn't the long term answer but at least when he plays well, he has the ability to read the play and intercept mark which allows us to win the ball back and attack. Cordy doesn't defend and he doesn't attack so why persist?

If it were up to me he wouldn't even be on the list.

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All I can say is: yep

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Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite

Might sound harsh, but does it matter?

What does Cordy actually bring? If anyone says the ability to compete, losing almost every 1-v1 is not my idea of competing and I'm not even taking last night into consideration because he's never laying a glove on Lynch. He was set up to fail.

Cordy doesn't rebound, he's the slowest on the list, he doesn't mark the ball, he's undersized... I'm not sure what the point of playing him is? At AFL level you need to bring at least ONE standout trait. Young isn't the long term answer but at least when he plays well, he has the ability to read the play and intercept mark which allows us to win the ball back and attack. Cordy doesn't defend and he doesn't attack so why persist?

If it were up to me he wouldn't even be on the list.

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Agree. I just get baffled why we persist with Cordy when we have a more agile, capable marking, taller defender playing VFL.

Out: Schache, JJ, Cordy

In: English, Khamis, Vandermeer

Rough night for some guys I've spent some bandwidth defending. Playing JJ is compounding his issues right now, he needs to play a block of twos footy and remember that he's actually good as hell at the game.

Schache can never fully never play again. He just doesn't have it in him.

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Originally Posted by DOG GOD

Agree. I just get baffled why we persist with Cordy when we have a more agile, capable marking, taller defender playing VFL.

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Because Young played like Cordy did last game, but without the competitiveness.

The problem was the midfield losing 7+ centre clearances in a row in the 3/4rd quarter, not a KPD we already knew was outclassed.

English comes in for Schache. JJ was out of the game but he was playing in the HF dead zone, but if VDM is fit that's an easy swap.
I'm really keen to find a way to get Weightman into the team. I know there are probably a couple ahead of him but if we lack energy around the contest, he's the most energetic on the list.

Cordy doesn't have that much height on Khamis and that's not taking Khamis' clear edge in pace and agility, might as well see what he can do. Young also covers Cordy for height and pace although he's no competitive at all.

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Originally Posted by Scraggers

What about giving Buku a go? I can’t see him doing worse than Cordy

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We actually miss Gardiner more than some people want to admit. He has excellent closing speed and reads the play quite well compared to Cordy. His last 5 games in 2020 and the beginning of this year showed he had improved.

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Originally Posted by Testekill

Cordy doesn't have that much height on Khamis and that's not taking Khamis' clear edge in pace and agility, might as well see what he can do. Young also covers Cordy for height and pace although he's no competitive at all.

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Young will get slaughtered by Harry and Casboult seems to save his best for us. Young is ok playing loose man in the back line.

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Originally Posted by Bullies

Young will get slaughtered by Harry and Casboult seems to save his best for us. Young is ok playing loose man in the back line.

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Trouble is there is no one else.

See how they go in the VFL today before I make up my mind on selection.

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Originally Posted by Bullies

Young will get slaughtered by Harry and Casboult seems to save his best for us. Young is ok playing loose man in the back line.

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How do we know? He never gets much of a chance. Just play him, he's the best we've got.

At this stage I would drop Schache, JJ, West, Cordy, but I don't know who to bring in at this stage

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Originally Posted by Bullies

We actually miss Gardiner more than some people want to admit. He has excellent closing speed and reads the play quite well compared to Cordy. His last 5 games in 2020 and the beginning of this year showed he had improved.

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Not sure how much of it is missing Gardner and how much is missing an actual competent key defender. Gardner is the best of a poor lot. I wish we had someone actually good on the list to miss, none of the options are even potentially that good (Khamis is not a key defender).

In: English, Young, McNeil, Sweet
Out: Schache, Cordy, JJ, Stef

Medical sub: Wally

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Originally Posted by Rocco Jones

In: English, Young, McNeil, Sweet
Out: Schache, Cordy, JJ, Stef

Medical sub: Wally

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If Stef is cooked (and he did get worked over by Nank), I'm happy with all these. Schache and JJ can't play next week and Cordy just has no AFL level traits.

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Originally Posted by comrade

If Stef is cooked (and he did get worked over by Nank), I'm happy with all these. Schache and JJ can't play next week and Cordy just has no AFL level traits.

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Martin won the hitouts but was beaten around the ground.

I wouldn't be dropping him.

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Originally Posted by soupaman

Oooh this is different.

So we go one less tall (is this assuming English isn't right?) and while Martin wasn't great why are we dropping him and what does Sweet offer he doesn't?

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Naughton, Bruce & Schache were all flying for the same ball at times. They all seemed to stand 10 metres apart and our mids bombed in their general direction, so that at least one if not 2 or 3 can contest for the mark. I didn't see a lot of synergy and working together. Riewoldt was dummy leading, blocking, leading up the ground or to the other side and moving the ball quickly to Lynch once he marked it

Until we can mature our setup and delivery I don't think we lose much by reducing the number of tall forwards. Schache was uncompetitive so is first to go

Martin was a witches hat away from the ruck contest, he looks old and immobile. He did alright at centre bounces, throw ins and ball ups but was otherwise a liability. Sweet's not great around the ground either but was dominant in the ruck in his first game. English has been great as a forward and serviceable as a ruck this year but had a terrible game before he was concussed, I don't think we need or use the extra tall forward and I rate Sweet above English as a ruck

Out: Schache, Hannan, JJ, Scott

In: English, Wallis, Garcia, McNeil

Cordy maybe, but only if you bring in Lew Young. I think the kid needs to play and its either him or Cordy, but I don't believe Cordy deserves the criticism he is getting here.

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Originally Posted by Mantis

I’m not sure I get what you mean. :D

It is an interesting point though, what AFL qualities does Zaine have? There isn’t anything he really excels at and with the deficiencies he has he is struggling to find a role.

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What about that sweet, sweet left foot?!

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Originally Posted by MrMahatma

What about that sweet, sweet left foot?!

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I hate it.

Just on all the JJ comments, is it just me or does he look a little heavy? He looks too big up top to me he has definitely lost a yard of speed along with the confidence to use it.

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Originally Posted by kruder

Just on all the JJ comments, is it just me or does he look a little heavy? He looks too big up top to me he has definitely lost a yard of speed along with the confidence to use it.

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He is just not a small forward.

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Originally Posted by MrMahatma

What about that sweet, sweet left foot?!

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Is his left foot that bad? I was frustrated when he kicked with his left when he could have used his right, but it isn't like his left leg is only there for balance...

I think his body language is bad and he gives the impression he is cooked when he's fine...

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Originally Posted by mjp

I think his body language is bad and he gives the impression he is cooked when he's fine...

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That's just him giving his opponent a false sense of security and then like a praying mantis he strikes....