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Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Welcome to the Always Right Match Committee Thread. The Match Committee threads has been named after long time WOOF member Always Right who tragically passed away in March 2018.
If you were on the Western Bulldogs match committee what changes would you make after our Round 13 match against Carlton for our Round 14, 2019 match against Collingwood at Marvel Stadium?
For those new to these threads, please give a brief explanation for your changes ... this would add a lot of value to the discussion.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In: Hayes or Porter
Out: Libba
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In West and Schache
Out Libba and Gardner
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Bailey Dale doesn’t play again.. he isn’t going to make it.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
Bailey Dale doesn’t play again.. he isn’t going to make it.
Agreed ... I was just about to edit my post above, but you beat me to it.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Out : Libba, Gardner, Dickson
In: Richards, Schache, West
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In: Schache, Richards, Lewis Young
Out: Gardner, Dale, Cordy
I don't ever wanna see Dale "play" again. He's just totally unwilling to do anything that is not extrinsic to kicking or handballing.
Gardner ain't it. Cordy's credits have been used up and I can't really cop anyone kicking 7 goals.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
Bailey Dale doesn’t play again.. he isn’t going to make it.
Glad you see it now.
Out Libba, Gardner,Dale
in: Schache, West, Hayes
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Silver lining with Libba is we really should get a look at West against the pies
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Glad you see it now.
Out Libba, Gardner,Dale
in: Schache, West, Hayes
Hayes is on the never again list too.
And what should I have seen earlier?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
Hayes is on the never again list too.
And what should I have seen earlier?
He certainly didn’t do anything today to warrant a promotion
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Does Hayes get 2 years on the list or is it only Under 18 players that do?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Bullies
Does Hayes get 2 years on the list or is it only Under 18 players that do?
2 years...
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Out: Dale Libba Gardner Cordy
In: Roarke Smith West Schache Le Young
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Mantis
Hayes is on the never again list too.
And what should I have seen earlier?
When I said Dale wasn't AFL standard, I recall a comment - all good, just happy you agree with me.
As for Hayes, you could be right, but I would like to give him a go at this level and not judge him on two games.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
josie
Out: Dale Libba Gardner Cordy
In: Roarke Smith West Schache Le Young
Should have added in out Bailey Williams and in Dureya or La Young
I know they will not make this many changes but seriously want Le Young, West and Scache in
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
josie
Should have added in out Bailey Williams and in Dureya or La Young
I know they will not make this many changes but seriously want Le Young, West and Scache in
I forgot about Duryea, I did my ins and outs on the train.
For me scratch Hayes, Duryea must play
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
As for Hayes, you could be right, but I would like to give him a go at this level and not judge him on two games.
He played 5 games straight
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In Richards, Duryea and Schache or Lewis Young
Outs Gardner, Liberatore and Dale
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He played 5 games straight
Stop spoiling a good argument :D
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
In Richards, Duryea and Schache or Lewis Young
Outs Gardner, Liberatore and Dale
I like these changes but did Richards do enough in the two's for a recall?
He was good in a couple of quarters but faded once the game was well in hand.
Schache for Gardner
Lewis Young for Cordy
Duryea for Liberatore
Dale gets another week or that's it for the season unless he gives the match committee no option but to pick him.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
In Richards, Duryea and Schache or Lewis Young
Outs Gardner, Liberatore and Dale
I just listened to the press conference and Bevridge sounded like he was going to give Gardner more time. Makes sense to give him more time but looked completely lost last night.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
I just listened to the press conference and Bevridge sounded like he was going to give Gardner more time. Makes sense to give him more time but looked completely lost last night.
I guess it does, I'm just keen to get Schache back into the line-up and I think he would also be a better option for the rucking chop outs, I just don't now how we can maintain a player who had just one kick and two handballs
What concerned me with Gardner was he failed to make contact with his opponent in a few critical contests last night
The Kruezer goal from a snap was a critical lesson to learn for him but I don't think he did. He needs to play with a bit more vigour
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I guess it does, I'm just keen to get Schache back into the line-up and I think he would also be a better option for the rucking chop outs, I just don't now how we can maintain a player who had just one kick and two handballs
What concerned me with Gardner was he failed to make contact with his opponent in a few critical contests last night
The Kruezer goal from a snap was a critical lesson to learn for him but I don't think he did. He needs to play with a bit more vigour
I could not believe that Gardner was used in the ruck against someone as experienced as Kruezer . That poor decision nearly cost the game.
I don’t want to see Schache in the ruck. He is tall but has never displayed ruck characteristics. But he should be in the team.
On the other hand I have been impressed by some of Young’s ruck work , he would be a sensible option for backup. And I cannot understand why he isn’t in the team. (Has he had less than one kick and two handballs?)
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Out: Dale (credits used up) Liberatore (inj) Gardner (not ready yet) Williams
In: West (what better time to give him a run, we aren't going to make the 8 anyway) Schache Lewis Young Richards
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Out: Dale, Libba, Williams
In: Duryea, West, Richards
West to play forward and hopefully bring some forward pressure. Duryea slots into half back and Richards on a wing.
I'm in the give Gardner more time camp, purely because we need to see whether there's something worth persisting with into 2020. We know what he can do at VFL level, I think he gets a solid 5 week block to see whether we contract him further.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
lemmon
I'm in the give Garnder more time camp, purely because we need to see whether there's something worth persisting with into 2020. We know what he can do at VFL level, I think he gets a solid 5 week block to see whether we contract him further.
That’s a fair point. In my head I think it’s silly we’re developing him over Schache, but given the circumstances of his recruitment/contract we probably need to judge Gardner of a 5-6 week period. Personally I haven’t seen anything yet.
I’ll be frustrated if Lewis Young doesn’t come into the side to either support Cordy or for Cordy. I find it ridiculous that we aren’t pumping games into Young yet continue to put up with Cordys poor performances.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Trengove on Cox or Grundy that's the interesting one this week. Love the idea of English resting forward with Trengove doing some grunt work but our defence has been bloody awful recently. Could we trust Le Young/ Cordy(one of the worst games I've seen in Bulldogs colours last night)on Cox? I'd actually prefer to see how Gardner would play in defence if he does get another chance, absolute craziness playing him in front of Josh atm.
Time to give Sweet a look maybe? Baptism of fire though.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
I’ll be frustrated if Lewis Young doesn’t come into the side to either support Cordy or for Cordy. I find it ridiculous that we aren’t pumping games into Young yet continue to put up with Cordys poor performances.
Yeah Young if nothing else looks more physically capable of playing on key forwards than Zaine right now. I'm pretty impressed with how much he has developed his physique in the past 12 months, and hopefully some increased strength will be matched by some increased footy smarts.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
When I said Dale wasn't AFL standard, I recall a comment - all good, just happy you agree with me.
As for Hayes, you could be right, but I would like to give him a go at this level and not judge him on two games.
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Originally Posted by
GVGjr
He played 5 games straight
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Stop spoiling a good argument :D
And with irrefutable facts at that.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Yeah Young if nothing else looks more physically capable of playing on key forwards than Zaine right now. I'm pretty impressed with how much he has developed his physique in the past 12 months, and hopefully some increased strength will be matched by some increased footy smarts.
I have said it for a long time now, Cordy is not a KPP, and needs to take the third tall. As for Young, well he has been asked to go back to the VFL and work on certain things, and I think he is ready to come in.
As for Gardner, I was surprised we took him in the mid season draft. Maybe the recruiters see more in him than I do, or we were desperate for another tall
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
I have said it for a long time now, Cordy is not a KPP, and needs to take the third tall. As for Young, well he has been asked to go back to the VFL and work on certain things, and I think he is ready to come in.
As for Gardner, I was surprised we took him in the mid season draft. Maybe the recruiters see more in him than I do, or we were desperate for another tall
Is that the role Wood and Crozier do?
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
chef
Is that the role Wood and Crozier do?
No - they are HBF
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In: Schache, Duryea, Lewis Young, West
Out: Gardner, Dale, Cordy, Libba
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
No - they are HBF
So who currently takes the third tall?
I think one of Wood or Crozier does already and they are competent at doing it(the third tall defender usually is a HBF). I dont get the need to shoehorn Cordy into the team in a role hes not suited when he doesnt deserve to be in it.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
chef
So who currently takes the third tall?
I think one of Wood or Crozier does already and they are competent at doing it(the third tall defender usually is a HBF). I dont get the need to shoehorn Cordy into the team in a role hes not suited when he doesnt deserve to be in it.
You are right. Cordy is a KPP. If he isn't a KPP at AFL level, then he is a KPP at VFL level.
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
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Originally Posted by
mjp
You are right. Cordy is a KPP. If he isn't a KPP at AFL level, then he is a KPP at VFL level.
Agreed, he has to play tall because he and the likes of Wood and Morris don't get enough of the ball and aren't good enough users to just sit on the flanks. We would have a very static back line
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
In Lewis Young Schache West
Out Dale Gardner Libba
Cordy gets another chance and with Young and Trengove down back won’t have to play tall.
I’d love Trengove In ruck and English playing forward more but we need Trengove on Cox.
This is a very winnable game this week .
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Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 14, Vs Collingwood
Can I do my weekly:
- Who do we shut down out of Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Treloar and who does it?
- What are the defensive match-ups? De Goey and Stephenson need shut-downs.
- Who is assigned to make sure that Howe doesn't control the game??