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End of Season - Trade Targets
What is the glaring gap (or gaps) in our list? Who would you target first to fill the void/s?
I think Jones needs another target, Austin, Marko and Grant aren't up to it. Ayce isn't there yet, Stringer needs time. So for me, a tall forward target is a must.
I'd love Robbie Tarant or Jack Darling, maybe Nathan Vardy, but would cost way too much. Perhaps Lachie Hansen, Jesse White might be a possibility? Or a 'roughy' like Mitch Brown from Geelong or Fraser MacInness from WCE, although they might want too much.
Any others suitors or other positions which need urgent attention??
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We need back up for Minson if gets injured....Hudson
Unless a good youngster turns up I would be content to build from the draft this year.
Interested in seeing if Frawley and Blease are available. In saying Frawley, I'd draft via PSD and do a deal with GWS to avoid them drafting them. I wouldn't give up our high first round pick for Frawley and he is worth that. In saying Blease he offers speed. In saying Melbourne, I am assuming players will want to get out as some have already demonstrated.
Don't know enough of GWS and GC list but would have a look there. Speed, ball use and marking power are the needs
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Would love Trent Mckenzie from GCOAST.
Jack darling from weagles
Nathan vardy from cats
Can I wake up now.
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Pick 20 or near could be worth some currency. What could that get us realistically??
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
What is the glaring gap (or gaps) in our list? Who would you target first to fill the void/s?
I think Jones needs another target, Austin, Marko and Grant aren't up to it. Ayce isn't there yet, Stringer needs time. So for me, a tall forward target is a must.
I'd love Robbie Tarant or Jack Darling, maybe Nathan Vardy, but would cost way too much. Perhaps Lachie Hansen, Jesse White might be a possibility? Or a 'roughy' like Mitch Brown from Geelong or Fraser MacInness from WCE, although they might want too much.
Any others suitors or other positions which need urgent attention??
I'm not sure whether we desperately need a key forward as much as you think we do.
Jones is starting to improve, Stringer isn't as far away from a regular game as we might think, Grant has more to offer, Williams will play forward once he's back, Ayce is lingering, Roberts is on the list.
None of them are very good quality players right now but there's 6 of them! If we can't sort our problems out with these guys already there then why are they on the list? And why in such abundance?
It seems pretty clear that we need a bit more class up forward because Gia and Murph won't be there forever and we look hopeless without those two guys there. Higgins is always injured also.
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Scorlibo
Jones is starting to improve, Stringer isn't as far away from a regular game as we might think, Grant has more to offer, Williams will play forward once he's back, Ayce is lingering, Roberts is on the list.
Grant will be delisted, and I have no faith in Cordy (ability) or Williams (always injured). Hope to see more of Roberts (who can play back) soon.
Recruiting a good tall forward wouldn't hurt us. Ditto a CHB.
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Dry Rot
Grant will be delisted, and I have no faith in Cordy (ability) or Williams (always injured). Hope to see more of Roberts (who can play back) soon.
Recruiting a good tall forward wouldn't hurt us. Ditto a CHB.
Forward who can play back... Mitch Brown from Geelong, Lachie Hansen from North. ARe they worth pick 20??
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bulldogtragic
Forward who can play back... Mitch Brown from Geelong, Lachie Hansen from North. ARe they worth pick 20??
I'm in two minds about trading this year or even next.
We're well on our way to a bottom 3 finish this year and logic suggests we'll get the spoon next year. Dunno if it's worth trading good picks now.
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Dry Rot
Grant will be delisted, and I have no faith in Cordy (ability) or Williams (always injured). Hope to see more of Roberts (who can play back) soon.
Recruiting a good tall forward wouldn't hurt us. Ditto a CHB.
How do you think we will recruit a good tall forward? How many good tall forwards do you think are running around at the moment?
You can't be sure on Grant, neither can anyone, until he's given game time. Even if he isn't given a fair run this year, when we go to get rid of him he'll probably be picked up by another club for cheap and kill it (besides the point I know, but I can't help but express my views on this one).
The minute you recruit a 'good' tall forward you have to question why Cordy is on the list, Williams and Roberts too. Is having Stringer and Jones not enough?
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bulldogtragic
Forward who can play back... Mitch Brown from Geelong, Lachie Hansen from North. ARe they worth pick 20??
If we paid pick 50 for Mitch Brown I would lose my sh*t. He will be delisted before too long.
What has Lachie Hansen shown? This thread is reminding me of the Ash Hansen push a few years ago.
The reality is if we want quality, we have to give up quality picks, and in 99% of cases we'll be paying overs because A) no decent forward wants to come and play for a bottom 4 side and B) if that's the case then we'll have to deal solely with the player's club = rip off o'clock.
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Scorlibo
How do you think we will recruit a good tall forward? How many good tall forwards do you think are running around at the moment?
Recruit ie draft
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Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
You can't be sure on Grant, neither can anyone, until he's given game time. Even if he isn't given a fair run this year, when we go to get rid of him he'll probably be picked up by another club for cheap and kill it (besides the point I know, but I can't help but express my views on this one).
The MC seems certain, so that's that for him with us.
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Scorlibo
The minute you recruit a 'good' tall forward you have to question why Cordy is on the list, Williams and Roberts too.
Agreed. We should question that. One seems a dud, one is always injured and one is unknown and mostly played as a defender at Willi.
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Scorlibo
Is having Stringer and Jones not enough?
Stringer looks like he'll be a good forward. Jones is unknown beyond being a good contested mark.
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Robbie Tarrant would be handy and wouldn't cost the earth.
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chef
Robbie Tarrant would be handy and wouldn't cost the earth.
I like Robbie too. I wonder what market value would be?
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chef
Robbie Tarrant would be handy and wouldn't cost the earth.
Is he over his injuries though?
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You'd have to go think one of Essendons talls, probably Gumby would be squeezed out. Wouldn't mind him
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I would take Gumby would add so much to us.
Don't think we will get Frawley maybe a defender Like Pears would be Good!
We should def look at mature state players for our rookie list like the Pies
Did with Frost Dwyer and Martin who probably would all get games easily with us.
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Regarding trading, I think it's all solid body potential key backs.
Markovic and Austin aren't up to AFL standard
, Morris may not have long and Roberts\Talia are speculatives.
Roughy and Young look the types to build around.
I'd be happy to go into the trade period looking to find more surplus types like Tom Young.
Use the draft for best available, geared towards key forward.
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I don't think forwards are the problem. The problem is with defenders and mids who can't kick 60 metres and kick pinpoint passes to advantage. We've got to get one top liner in the mould of Suckling, and a pacy mid player in the mould of Atley (who has, from memory, taken 3 or 4 years to develop).
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Dry Rot
One seems a dud, one is always injured and one is unknown and mostly played as a defender at Willi.
Talls always take time to mature. It's far too early to make a definitive call on Cordy yet. In fact I'd say he's shown more signs that he will make it than he won't.
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M.R.M
Regarding trading, I think it's all solid body potential key backs.
Markovic and Austin aren't up to AFL standard
, Morris may not have long and Roberts\Talia are speculatives.
Roughy and Young look the types to build around.
I'd be happy to go into the trade period looking to find more surplus types like Tom Young.
Use the draft for best available, geared towards key forward.
Yep. Good assessment. Especially re Markovic.
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metal
I don't think forwards are the problem. The problem is with defenders and mids who can't kick 60 metres and kick pinpoint passes to advantage. We've got to get one top liner in the mould of Suckling, and a pacy mid player in the mould of Atley (who has, from memory, taken 3 or 4 years to develop).
Again good assessment.
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We already have more than enough "handy"players on our list.
Spend up big only on silk or cream, and I don't much care if that is in the draft or trade.
Pace, and 'natural footballers' who can kick with precision only need apply.
Watching some of our kids, there is heaps of potential coming through, but a bit more class around them will both bring them on quicker, and make them and the team a lot stronger.
As for it being a risk that should Grant be traded, he might come good some where else. Well so be it, and good luck to him, and whoever might have taken the gamble to pick him up. But I don't see how we can continue to clog up a place on the list in the forlorn hope that he will somehow miraculously start performing to his potential after so many years of not doing so.
I don't see how we need to promote him to the seniors in order for him to prove his worth or otherwise, as he has not exactly been banging the door down at the lower level to force his way in. And if we give him weeks in the seniors just for the sake of it, that only keeps a kid from getting a senior go.
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Anyone who can play and who wants to come to us.
ANYONE. Holes all over the ground.
Except for in and under midfielders.
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lemmon
You'd have to go think one of Essendons talls, probably Gumby would be squeezed out. Wouldn't mind him
Noticed the other Night Gumby got his hands on a lot and dropped them.
Went to ground often as well.
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Carlton will lose a few. Melbourne too.
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Ghost Dog
Carlton will lose a few. Melbourne too.
Would we look at Luke Mitchell from Carlton. 198cm, 100kg former teammate of Libba and Wallace. Has had a lot of shoulder issues, but looked a likely junior up forward.
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bulldogtragic
Would we look at Luke Mitchell from Carlton. 198cm, 100kg former teammate of Libba and Wallace. Has had a lot of shoulder issues, but looked a likely junior up forward.
Gee he must be getting on in years :D
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Matthew Watson from the blues or Tayte Pears. I know Watson is a little slow & that probably wouldn't work well with Roughie being slow but he has a hell of kick on him.
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Anyone who has two legs, two arms and can kick, mark and handball...seriously!
I'd trade to get Tom Boyd (U18 CHF). Trade our first pick & Higgins...we must make sure we bring in quality and here you have a future premiership key forward. The club needs to go all out...
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We should rookie a mature gorilla forward form the secondary comps. A pack marker, not a leading forward like Redpath. I think Redpath is gone.
Oh, thats not a trade target.
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They should groom Redpath as a key defender (CHB) he has agility and height and a ripping build- just needs to get some games consistently under his belt, Stringer as FF
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anfo27
Matthew Watson from the blues or Tayte Pears. I know Watson is a little slow & that probably wouldn't work well with Roughie being slow but he has a hell of kick on him.
Great kick, but a bit undersized for a key back.
Not overly nimble either.
What on earth happened to Laidlaw of Carlton?
Looked a good pick up under Ratten.
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Whatever happened to James Magner?
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The Cowshed
Anyone who has two legs, two arms and can kick, mark and handball...seriously!
I'd trade to get Tom Boyd (U18 CHF). Trade our first pick & Higgins...we must make sure we bring in quality and here you have a future premiership key forward. The club needs to go all out...
Why would any other club want Higgins?
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stefoid
We should rookie a mature gorilla forward form the secondary comps. A pack marker, not a leading forward like Redpath. I think Redpath is gone.
Oh, thats not a trade target.
Justin Hardy?
Some talent watchers say he's the best mature KPF not on an AFL list.
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Throughandthrough
Whatever happened to James Magner?
Rookie and i don't know if they had any available spots. Tom Gillies may be on the LTI list now.
Disposal lacks a little but surely they could use his run, in and under work and hardness, considering they lack much of that currently.
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Remi Moses
Great kick, but a bit undersized for a key back.
Not overly nimble either.
What on earth happened to Laidlaw of Carlton?
Looked a good pick up under Ratten.
Do you mean Jeremy Laidler? Did his knee last year but seems to have fallen out of favour with Malthouse after a good season in 2011.
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Perhaps we wont trade at all this year? Clear out a few to clear up list space and draft our way out of trouble.
I was pretty happy with our trading last year, giving up little save for Stevens who is 21 anyway.
We have tended to get more value out of later pick trades (eg. Hudson) over higher pick trades (Rawlings) anyway.
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Mofra
Perhaps we wont trade at all this year? Clear out a few to clear up list space and draft our way out of trouble.
I was pretty happy with our trading last year, giving up little save for Stevens who is 21 anyway.
We have tended to get more value out of later pick trades (eg. Hudson) over higher pick trades (Rawlings) anyway.
Yes I thought we played it well last year.
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M.R.M
Rookie and i don't know if they had any available spots. Tom Gillies may be on the LTI list now.
Disposal lacks a little but surely they could use his run, in and under work and hardness, considering they lack much of that currently.
I'm pretty sure they have had a spot but won't promote him, which seems baffling unless there is some off field issues not yet public.
I'm quite happy if we can identify players like Tom Young who are surplus to requirements at other clubs and cheap.
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Axe Man
Do you mean Jeremy Laidler? Did his knee last year but seems to have fallen out of favour with Malthouse after a good season in 2011.
Yes, it seems to always happen with Mick.
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Lets get one back from the system.
Dale Thomas as a an unsigned restricted agent. Doesn't appear to be a fan of Bucks. At 25 he's in an ideal age bracket for us and where we are lacking, offers us much needed outside run and spread, uses the ball well and offers all over ground flexibility. Would complement our developing inside mid group well, offers a much needed foil for Griff and has the added benefit of being a highly marketable commodity. Would be a huge get for the Club even if the odds might be against us.