List Management for 2020/21

[comrade]

Saw somewhere online that Jackson Trengove named Garcia as the gun young player on our list to watch when asked during a Q&A.

[Grantysghost]

But...Georgiades isn't a small forward either.

Weightman is fine but he is not really a small forward...so what actually IS he? .

Fair point re Georgiades he is more mid sized isn't he and can play tall with that marking ability. I guess my philosophy is you recruit for type but if there's a better player available that takes precedence.

Why do you think Weightman is not a small forward? Be interested to hear from your perspective. I'm thinking he ticks the boxes, but I have only seen him in a few highlights clips and the couple of games he's played so far.

On the topic of small forwards. JJ anyone? Last week I thought he changed the dynamic of our attack dramatically from any other time this year. Real threat when the ball was in there, on the ground or in the air. Maybe his tackle pressure is the question mark?

[ledge]

I’m disappointed in what I’m reading about Weightman I think he will be exactly what we need, he is quick he can take a mark and he can kick opportunist goals, I believe he will put pressure on as well.
I have high regard for this kid , he is very skinny and can probably be pushed off the ball at the moment but can’t we at least give him some slack ?
No VFL at all, the odd scratch match where players cross over to different teams half way through , so no actual learning to play the actual game plan with his own players as a team.
He played two games in AFL and he showed glimpses.
I hope this kid proves you wrong.

[Sedat]

I’m disappointed in what I’m reading about Weightman I think he will be exactly what we need, he is quick he can take a mark and he can kick opportunist goals, I believe he will put pressure on as well.
I have high regard for this kid , he is very skinny and can probably be pushed off the ball at the moment but can’t we at least give him some slack ?
No VFL at all, the odd scratch match where players cross over to different teams half way through , so no actual learning to play the actual game plan with his own players as a team.
He played two games in AFL and he showed glimpses.
I hope this kid proves you wrong.

He's not quick. He looks like a Jamie Elliott type rather than a traditional small pressure forward.

He seems to have the right attitude and I hope he makes it.

[azabob]

I’m disappointed in what I’m reading about Weightman I think he will be exactly what we need, he is quick he can take a mark and he can kick opportunist goals, I believe he will put pressure on as well.
I have high regard for this kid , he is very skinny and can probably be pushed off the ball at the moment but can’t we at least give him some slack ?
No VFL at all, the odd scratch match where players cross over to different teams half way through , so no actual learning to play the actual game plan with his own players as a team.
He played two games in AFL and he showed glimpses.
I hope this kid proves you wrong.

Thanks Mark Thompson.

Who said he won't make it?

[jeemak]

Foggerty? Still fat and in and out of the Crows team... you guessed it.... due to work ethic.

On Weightman I actually said very early in this very thread I would be open to trading him now. It would be a risk as development of first year players surely has to be impacted due to the lack of VFL footy and everything else that has gone on in 2020.

Nah it was actually Will Gould that I was after.

[Grantysghost]

He's not quick. He looks like a Jamie Elliott type rather than a traditional small pressure forward.

He seems to have the right attitude and I hope he makes it.

Makes sense, I had a look at the combine results recently and he did well in the vertical leap and his yo-yo is apparently excellent too so elite endurance. Nothing of note in the speed category, this from afl draft central

"he is only relatively quick and agile"

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/cody-weightman/

[GVGjr]

But...Georgiades isn't a small forward either.

This is what I don't get sometimes...why would we want Georgiades if we have Schache, Dale, Lloyd, Dickson and - I guess - Wallis?

We can't play them all. If we recruit Georgiades, well, clear out those in front of him. I guess that's why I was frustrated with the Garcia selection - if we want Garcia, then why exactly are we keeping Porter?

Weightman is fine but he is not really a small forward...so what actually IS he? When we have the answer to that question then we will know whether he is going to be a player or not. My negativity is not aimed at the kid - I was frustrated at draft time that we spent a first round pick at a critical time in our development on a player with no clear skillset and - more importantly - no clear role at senior level.

As I said in the piece you quoted - apparently he has a good attitude and mindset so will get there in the end...I just think he should have been a rookie selection and not a first round pick.

This is roughly the same logic I was asking about when we recruited Bruce and all it's really done has pushed Schache to the back of the queue.

Georgiades, Schache and Naughton might have been a good mix of taller players for us and Ugle-Hagan coming through in a couple of seasons.

Regarding Weightman, I agree he isn't a small crumbing forward but is a small forward with mid sized forward attributes
He doesn't see himself as a midfielder either.

[azabob]

Nah it was actually Will Gould that I was after.

Yep, your main man HD put me on the straight and narrow!

[bornadog]

This is roughly the same logic I was asking about when we recruited Bruce and all it's really done has pushed Schache to the back of the queue.

We should draft the best player, not draft for needs - well especially for your first pick

[Dry Rot]

Nah it was actually Will Gould that I was after.

So was I.

Gould is fat and unfit, so am I.

So if he could make it in the AFL, so could I.*






* Perhaps over 40 years ago. But given my appalling junior AFL career, maybe not.

[GVGjr]

We should draft the best player, not draft for needs - well especially for your first pick

I've never really been of a different opinion

Trading for players though is more needs based (with some exceptions) and all that landing Bruce has done is pushed Schache to the back of the queue

[DOG GOD]

I've never really been of a different opinion

Trading for players though is more needs based (with some exceptions) and all that landing Bruce has done is pushed Schache to the back of the queue

Which says to me the MC don’t rate Schache

[Mofra]

I've never really been of a different opinion

Trading for players though is more needs based (with some exceptions) and all that landing Bruce has done is pushed Schache to the back of the queue

Schache plays more of a meek medium leading forward role than a legitimate KPP role. He's icing, not cake.

[comrade]

Schache plays more of a meek medium leading forward role than a legitimate KPP role. He's icing, not cake.

Shaq needs to be pushed up the field, tall winger style.