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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Not really, I'm not sure what the MRP can really do as their hands are tied by the guidelines.
They assessed it as intentional low impact contact to the body. They could hardly assess it as medium impact.
The AFL needs to change the rules if they want these punching incidents to attract suspensions.
But what makes it strange is that it was his second offence.....yet still only a fine. Anyway, it's done and he will be an important player against us. He's had an excellent season and provides a lot of their run.
Will be interesting to see what they do with Reid and Lloyd who both suffered concussion. We've learned through Picken and Libba that the effects can linger.
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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Re: MRP thread 2017
AFL are a joke. But we knew that already.
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
AndrewP6
AFL are a joke. But we knew that already.
Doesn't the MRP adjudicate independent of the AFL - and the AFL step in only if they think a punishment is inappropriate?
And secondly, wouldn't it be worse to overreact after the commentary last week and just start suspending anyone/everyone for these type of offences?
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Hopeless , just hopeless .
How did Grundy get off ? Minboggling
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Doesn't the MRP adjudicate independent of the AFL - and the AFL step in only if they think a punishment is inappropriate?
And secondly, wouldn't it be worse to overreact after the commentary last week and just start suspending anyone/everyone for these type of offences?
Sure they do. But after coming out and saying they were going to put a stop to punches, they do nothing. IF they're going to say it, they've got to live by their word.
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Ozza
And secondly, wouldn't it be worse to overreact after the commentary last week and just start suspending anyone/everyone for these type of offences?
The commentary was generated by the AFL themselves so in this instance it wouldn't be an overreaction
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
Not really, I'm not sure what the MRP can really do as their hands are tied by the guidelines.
They assessed it as intentional low impact contact to the body. They could hardly assess it as medium impact.
The AFL needs to change the rules if they want these punching incidents to attract suspensions.
I actually agree with you.
The AFL through Lethlean responded in the week prior that the stomach punch was unsightly and wanted it removed from the game but gave little to the MRP within the classification to respond to. Bartel, who sits on the panel, said as much during his media commitments throughout the round.
Unless a Club in its post game medical assessment states that there was a degree of severity to the impact of the hit, unlikely, it's going to be a very subjective assessment between what is a low and medium impact when it comes to a whack in the guts.
It's back to the AFL to do what it should've done in the first instance, that is to establish clear criteria to make an assessment of penalty rather than to just provide commentary on how bad it might look.
It's a similar circumstance with what the AFL have done with implementing contentious rule changes of such a subjective nature, such as with deliberate behinds or deliberate out of bounds. It has put so much pressure and heat on the umpiring fraternity where they are having to make critical decisions within a milli-second because the league demands a more attacking / fast flowing game regardless of the look to our game.
Personally, the game is barely resembling what I was taught from a youngster, where the ball player was protected and rewarded. Now the player in the most damaging position is often the player that is coming in from behind, where they have honed their craft of immediately (& dangerously) pinning an arm to claim a holding the ball, or as with Josh Green or Picken pulling back from an offensive charge with the chance that the leading player (Short / Mills) under pressure might push the ball through for a favourable subjective assessment of 'deliberate'.
I would prefer that the player good enough to win the ball have the option of disposing of the ball in a manner that he deems best for his Team, whether that's for an offensive play or as with these so called unsightly 'deliberate' defensive actions, enable his Team to reset and setup play for their advantage.
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Stringer sanctioned
Western Bulldogs forward Jake Stringer has accepted a $1500 sanction for wrestling with Melbourne’s Neville Jetta during Sunday’s loss to the Demons.
Jetta has also been fined $1500 for the second quarter incident.
The pair are one of a number of players who have been cited by the Match Review Panel after round 13, with all players accepting the sanctions offered by the MRP.
Great BS tactics by Melbourne, just push and shove knowing you won't be smacked in the mouth for being a prick. (although Bugg left the field with blood flowing from his eye - good on you Wood ).
The umpires should have shut this down early by warning players and giving an immediate 50 metre penalty for continually harassing a player away from the general play. They lost control in the 2nd quarter
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Re: MRP thread 2017
The MRP have again showed that they play favourites.
How could anybody watched the replay of the Selwood elbow to Mitchell and not deem it intentional?
It was worse than the incident that got Jack Redpath rubbed out for a week last year.
Selwood has got the Fyfe/Judd treatment that was never available to Chris Grant.
IT IS A DISGRACE!!!!
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21-06-2017, 01:14 PM
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Great BS tactics by Melbourne, just push and shove knowing you won't be smacked in the mouth for being a prick. (although Bugg left the field with blood flowing from his eye - good on you Wood
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The umpires should have shut this down early by warning players and giving an immediate 50 metre penalty for continually harassing a player away from the general play. They lost control in the 2nd quarter
The off the ball incidents that were not picked up has me wondering if the umpires have eyes that work. At minimum I counted about 3 of our players dropped behind play while the ball was nowhere near them. If Melbourne want it that way I hope there club and their suddenly cocky supporters are prepared to get it back. They're becoming a GWS V2 with there fake tough guy BS.
I'm praying we run into them again this year. I really am.
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21-06-2017, 02:23 PM
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Great BS tactics by Melbourne, just push and shove knowing you won't be smacked in the mouth for being a prick. (although Bugg left the field with blood flowing from his eye -
good on you Wood ).
The umpires should have shut this down early by warning players and giving an immediate 50 metre penalty for continually harassing a player away from the general play. They lost control in the 2nd quarter
Good on him for giving away another goal when we were starting to see a shift in momentum?.. It was idiotic by Wood.
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21-06-2017, 04:14 PM
#102
Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Good on him for giving away another goal when we were starting to see a shift in momentum?.. It was idiotic by Wood.
He's been getting sucked in for a few weeks now. Couple of the Aints players got under his skin.
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21-06-2017, 06:00 PM
#103
Re: MRP thread 2017
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Good on him for giving away another goal when we were starting to see a shift in momentum?.. It was idiotic by Wood.
That was an umpire decision - Wood was retaliating to dickhead Bugg's go at him from behind - gutless wonder. There should not have been a second shot at goal
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26-06-2017, 04:49 PM
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Re: MRP thread 2017
Easton Wood, Western Bulldogs,
has been charged with striking Taylor Garner, North Melbourne, during the first quarter of the Round 14 match between the Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday June 25, 2017. In summary, as a second offence of this kind, he can accept a $1500 sanction with an early plea.Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the North Melbourne Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with low impact to the body. This was a second classifiable office which was classified as a $2500 sanction. An early plea enables the player to accept a $1500 sanction.
Ben Cunnington, North Melbourne,
has been charged with striking Toby McLean, Western Bulldogs, during the fourth quarter of the Round 14 match between North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday June 24, 2017. In summary, he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea. Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Western Bulldogs Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with low impact to the head/neck/throat area. The incident was classified as a two-match sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a one-match sanction.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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26-06-2017, 04:55 PM
#105
Re: MRP thread 2017
Will Scofield has been offered a week for the hit on Clayton Oliver ... You are kidding me !!! The elbow didn't even connect !! Oliver took the biggest dive since Greg Louganis in the 1984 olympics. The MRP is a joke !!