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19-09-2022, 01:30 PM
#2581
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Is there anyone at Brisbane on their way to, say, Collingwood? Anyone from Collingwood we might be interested in?
Isn’t McStay going to Collingwood. Surely a simple:
Dunks to Lions
McStay to Pies
Grundy to Dogs
would suffice
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19-09-2022, 01:31 PM
#2582
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
Isn’t McStay going to Collingwood. Surely a simple:
Dunks to Lions
McStay to Pies
Grundy to Dogs
would suffice
He's a free agent though.
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19-09-2022, 01:34 PM
#2583
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
He's a free agent though.
Damn I had not considered that.
If they just want him off the books then maybe whatever dog shit Brisbane offer will be enough to facilitate the deal. Say we get their future first and this years second from Brisbane, if we then send that first to Collingwood and they pay a considerable amount of his salary (as with Ads and as has also been rumoured there is a willingness to), then we could come out of this pretty well.
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19-09-2022, 01:42 PM
#2584
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
He's a free agent though.
Ah ok. Changes things then. Bummer
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19-09-2022, 01:47 PM
#2585
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
It's a classic case of offering the player the world and not having anything to match their supposed worth with the trading club.
If they believe he's worth a 6 year contract and x amount than they need to offer something of similar value.
I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk to North Melbourne if Brisbane don't play ball.
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19-09-2022, 01:49 PM
#2586
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
chef
At the end of the day this is just a job to the players and you have the try and take the emotional attachment off them.
Its sad thats how it is now, but I guess cheer the jumper not the guy in it.
Would you be so magnanimous if it was Bontempelli?
This is our best performed player of the last 12 months who is 25.
I get in a professional sporting world these things happen, but it's nothing like US or European sports here.
It's still a local game, built around communities and I'm ok with being cranky about Dunks leaving.
Not sure if I'm more annoyed with him, or the clubs inability to satisfy issues he had.
Also the destination, I can't see how we get a good deal here.
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19-09-2022, 01:55 PM
#2587
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Hotdog60
We could ask if Rayner or Berry want to come home and take one of them and the first for next year.
#BeastMode activated
BORDERLINE FLYING
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19-09-2022, 01:59 PM
#2588
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
#BeastMode activated
Ha! God I've missed these xD
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19-09-2022, 02:01 PM
#2589
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Would you be so magnanimous if it was Bontempelli?
This is our best performed player of the last 12 months who is 25.
I get in a professional sporting world these things happen, but it's nothing like US or European sports here.
It's still a local game, built around communities and I'm ok with being cranky about Dunks leaving.
Not sure if I'm more annoyed with him, or the clubs inability to satisfy issues he had.
Also the destination, I can't see how we get a good deal here.
Hard to compare Dunkley with Bont. Two entirely different characters - one really only about himself; the other loyal as hell. Deep down we all knew Dunks would leave at some stage - it was just a matter of when.
I am not sure the club could have done much more tbh. Maybe guaranteed 100% game time in the middle but still that wouldn’t satisfy him. He needs to be the big wig and that is impossible with the likes of Bont and Macrae only being a year or two older.
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19-09-2022, 02:04 PM
#2590
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Rocket Science
#BeastMode activated
Haha the barometer
The curse is dead.
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19-09-2022, 02:07 PM
#2591
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
Hard to compare Dunkley with Bont. Two entirely different characters - one really only about himself; the other loyal as hell. Deep down we all knew Dunks would leave at some stage - it was just a matter of when.
I am not sure the club could have done much more tbh. Maybe guaranteed 100% game time in the middle but still that wouldn’t satisfy him. He needs to be the big wig and that is impossible with the likes of Bont and Macrae only being a year or two older.
Neale and Mcluggage?
Youre right re character I was more comparing our best player this year who is imo Dunks.
Our Marcus would never leave!
I'll cool my jets until I see the deal. If we can turn it into something useful I'll be ok.
Out of interest I wonder what FA compo we would've got with that deal. 6 years x 700 ish you would guess.
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19-09-2022, 02:09 PM
#2592
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
Isn’t McStay going to Collingwood. Surely a simple:
Dunks to Lions
McStay to Pies
Grundy to Dogs
would suffice
I get this would need a bit of refining but Collingwood are getting the short straw in that scenario so would need something coming back to them especially if they're coughing up 300K in the salary.
McStay is a slightly above average footballer, Dunkley close to elite and Grundy is an elite ruckman.
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19-09-2022, 02:17 PM
#2593
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Would you be so magnanimous if it was Bontempelli?
This is our best performed player of the last 12 months who is 25.
Its also a player that most have expected was going to leave for the past 2 years.
He helped us win a premiership and then gave his all.
As long as we work out a trade he can go with my blessing.
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19-09-2022, 02:24 PM
#2594
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I hate it as a concept because he's a premiership hero but we need to change up our mix in the midfield, as having three see ball get ball midfielders who are all of similar pace and size is leading to us being exposed. Aside from Smith there's a distinct lack of zip in the midfield mix and that needs to change.
To me Jacko and Bont are untouchable, so that unfortunately leaves us with one major card to play to change things up and that's putting Dunkley on the market and seeing whether we can bring in a quick established midfielder (not a world beater, but with defencive cred) and a reasonably high draft pick (early to mid second) to secure another.
The reason that this is necessary to me is that we don't have anyone good enough to replace him in the side and nobody coming through who can materially change the way our midfield operates due to its sameness in personnel.
What does everyone think? What is he worth to us?
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19-09-2022, 02:24 PM
#2595
Re: Trade Dunkley? Not tonight Josephine.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
I get this would need a bit of refining but Collingwood are getting the short straw in that scenario so would need something coming back to them especially if they're coughing up 300K in the salary.
McStay is a slightly above average footballer, Dunkley close to elite and Grundy is an elite ruckman.
You also need to factor in the salary benefits that Collingwood are getting (think Treloar trade). Agree it's uneven, and irrelevant anyway because of McStays FA status.