Early Trade Rumours 2023

[JanLorMill]

Absolute madness to even think of getting rid of Tim - I can't believe people even think it.

Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.

[bornadog]

Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.

Yes madness for being in deep shit with salary cap

[kruder]

I guess he's worth a second round pick.

Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.

[GVGjr]

Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.

A 3rd rounder is about right but we don't have one this year so it would have to be a future one.

I don't think we need him but clubs will likely ask the question.

[SquirrelGrip]

Billings will be cheap I reckon 3rd at best. I think he is better than Baker and Scott if we think his body is right.

The more of Billings salary a team is prepared to pay, the cheaper he will be.

[Axe Man]

Grundy at the time was way better than English is now. Madness by Collingwood.

2022 Grundy was way better than 2023 English? Couldn't disagree more.

[Axe Man]

Axe Man

I'm worth 5 Jack Billings!

[EasternWest]

I'm worth 5 Jack Billings!

The word jack is certainly in your value.

[Sedat]

Absolute madness to even think of getting rid of Tim - I can't believe people even think it.

Is English as AA 1st ruck going to help us win a premiership? Jury is out - what is fact is that his AA season couldn't even get us in the top 8 this year (not his fault). That's not to say anything about having him remain on a multi-year contract worth well over $1 million a season.

It is foolish and irresponsible not to consider the size/length of the salary and the specific role when managing current and future list and cap demands.

Grundy actually proves the point about the sky not falling in if English and the club decide to part ways for whatever reason - he was the best ruckman in the game (significantly better than English in 2023) but couldn't help his team to win a flag. As soon as he and his enormous salary was replaced (with a Clydesdale ruck on the cheap who competes hard, and an American who has many and varied flaws), they have won 39 out of 52 games en route to a premiership after finishing bottom 4 only 2 years ago.

[Bullies]

Are there rumours that Essendon are going to rise up from the ashes and actually win a final next year ?

Is Goldstein going there for potential or for more years ? I don't get it.

I believe he has been offered a role after this year in a Development role

[bornadog]

Grundy actually proves the point about the sky not falling in if English and the club decide to part ways for whatever reason - he was the best ruckman in the game (significantly better than English in 2023).

No he wasn't. Tim's numbers stack up to Grundy at the same age, if not better.

Player Statistics Comparison Brodie Grundy Name Timothy English Melbourne Demons Team Western Bulldogs Ruck Position Ruck 194 Career Games 108 Sturt Origin South Fremantle April 15, 1994 Date of Birth August 10, 1997 Turned 26 in 2020 Age 26yr 1mth 203cm Height 207cm 104kg Weight 103kg 2012 National Draft Last Drafted In 2016 National Draft Round 1, Pick #18 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #19 Collingwood Magpies Last Drafted By Western Bulldogs 2020 Stats for Season 2023 19 Games 23 5.5 Kicks 11.2 8.8 Handballs 7.9 14.4 Disposals 19.1 3.0 Marks 6.3 0.2 Goals 0.7 0.2 Behinds 0.2 3.6 Tackles 4.3 31.4 Hitouts 31.2 1.9 Inside 50s 3.2 0.3 Goal Assists 0.3 2.3 Frees For 1.8 1.5 Frees Against 1.5 8.9 Contested Possessions 9.2 5.8 Uncontested Possessions 11.0 10.6 Effective Disposals 13.9 73.6% Disposal Efficiency % 72.8% 2.5 Clangers 3.6 1.1 Contested Marks 1.3 0.3 Marks Inside 50 0.6 3.2 Clearances 3.3 0.7 Rebound 50s 1.9 2.2 One Percenters 4.3 0.1 Bounces 0.3 84.5 Time On Ground % 85.9 0.8 Centre Clearances 1.2 2.4 Stoppage Clearances 2.1 3.3 Score Involvements 5.3 99.8 Metres Gained 255.0 1.8 Turnovers 3.3 1.9 Intercepts 4.3 0.5 Tackles Inside 50 0.4 87.9 AFL Fantasy Score 118.7 118.4 Supercoach Score 128.0

[hujsh]

No he wasn't. Tim's numbers stack up to Grundy at the same age, if not better.

Don't think anyone disputes that Tim is a great pick for the supercoach team. More the impact he has on games

[bornadog]

Don't think anyone disputes that Tim is a great pick for the supercoach team. More the impact he has on games

Supercoach? I don't even look at Supercoach

[hujsh]

Supercoach? I don't even look at Supercoach

I don't think that really matters to the general point being made.

[angelopetraglia]

"My feeling is the Western Bulldogs are definitely interested in Nick Coffield. St Kilda have an offer to him, only one year at this point. He might be on the move if another team offers him multiple years."

- Josh Gabelich