Simple: YES or NO

[Happy Days]

When you consider that 7-7 could put us 12th (if Melbourne, Gold Coast and Brisbane all win their 14th games this weekend) then really it's not acceptable. But that also shows that it's a very even competition.

I had low expectations for the season, so it is probably on par with those, but that's more of a blight on the group than anything.

I don't know if we should be MUCH better than this, but I think we have shot ourselves in the foot a few times and will probably rue that in September.

Yeah I agree with this. In hindsight the actual annoying games were against Geelong that we still almost won with only 3 players showing up, and the first time against Freo that we completely bottled (even more so now given we’re apparently 12 goals better than them).

[Mantis]

Yeah I agree with this. In hindsight the actual annoying games were against Geelong that we still almost won with only 3 players showing up, and the first time against Freo that we completely bottled (even more so now given we’re apparently 12 goals better than them).

You can add the Hawthorn game in there too... we were out of the blocks quickly and had a 3 goals lead 6min in, but then played like a busted ass, were poorly coached and had a narrow loss.

Whilst Haw have found form since they were only just travelling going into this game and it's a game we clearly should've won.

[Happy Days]

You can add the Hawthorn game in there too... we were out of the blocks quickly and had a 3 goals lead 6min in, but then played like a busted ass, were poorly coached and had a narrow loss.

Whilst Haw have found form since they were only just travelling going into this game and it's a game we clearly should've won.

But kicking the first three goals and losing is our move. You wouldn’t expect Randy Orton to stop hitting the RKO.

[Sedat]

You can add the Hawthorn game in there too... we were out of the blocks quickly and had a 3 goals lead 6min in, but then played like a busted ass, were poorly coached and had a narrow loss.

Whilst Haw have found form since they were only just travelling going into this game and it's a game we clearly should've won.

I reckon the players have to hold 50-50 responsibility for this loss as well as the coaching on the day. We conceded something like 12 turnover goals out of 14, and from memory almost 60 points were conceded directly from defensive half turnovers - that sort of ball-butchery is impossible to defend against.

[jeemak]

I reckon the players have to hold 50-50 responsibility for this loss as well as the coaching on the day. We conceded something like 12 turnover goals out of 14, and from memory almost 60 points were conceded directly from defensive half turnovers - that sort of ball-butchery is impossible to defend against.

I don't remember the coaching issues, what were they?

There was pressure well applied by Hawthorn but the butchering of the footy was the thing that stood out to me.

[Mantis]

I don't remember the coaching issues, what were they?

There was pressure well applied by Hawthorn but the butchering of the footy was the thing that stood out to me.

We had Richards parked out HF for most of the game all the while whilst our midfield lacked drive and our defenders were poor.

If Ed wasn't part of the midfield rotations he needed to go back.

[SonofScray]

No.

We've underperformed based on expectations and look like finishing 10th.

[Bulldog Joe]

No.

We've underperformed based on expectations and look like finishing 10th.

From here I see us with a real chance to go deep.

Win the next 12 and we are premiers.

[SonofScray]

From here I see us with a real chance to go deep.

Win the next 12 and we are premiers.

We could do that, and I hope we do.

If we make it, we'll know on our day we are good enough. Almost on talent alone. Can we muster up enough of our days? Previous iterations of the team I believed we could, this iteration I hope we can.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Yes.