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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Is Jake Lever fast?

    Good positioning, cutting angles and anticipating ball movement can cover a lack of speed pretty easily.
    Fast mentally. Positioning and decision making.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

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    He is nice with ball in hand. However, he just doesn't seem a player to me that's first round pick without it.

    I'm probably judging too hard with that pick in mind, it's not like he selected himself and was the best defender at our pick.

    What do you think the coaches are seeing that puts Buku in front? Gps data?
    I think Buss has time on his hands being a lot younger than Buku so no need to fast track him. I think they are taking the long term approach with him.

    Buku lucky that we have a few missing at the moment and he is filling the gaps. I don't think they would see Buku as a long term defender as they are aware he can't defend very well.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullies View Post
    I think Buss has time on his hands being a lot younger than Buku so no need to fast track him. I think they are taking the long term approach with him.

    Buku lucky that we have a few missing at the moment and he is filling the gaps. I don't think they would see Buku as a long term defender as they are aware he can't defend very well.
    Saw Buku as a halfback flanker and he played a good game a few years back against st Kilda when few others did. So we played him in the ruck, and as a forward and as a key defender. I suspect that he has not learned to specialise anywhere.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    The things that stamp Khamis's papers each time I see him play are the things you can't really teach through specialisation, or playing forward, ruck, or as an interceptor which in each case he shows positive traits.

    It's about the times he doesn't attack the ball or body when he should, or conceive the pressure he's going to be under if he gets his hands on the footy. There were a couple of glaring examples from last week, one of which resulted in a HTB where he was caught completely unawares, both hands on the footy at waist height instead of the inside (danger side) arm free to fend off, no turn of the body to protect what should have been a single arm carrying the ball.

    If he hasn't learned these elements of craft by now, he never will. And they're super important if you're playing defence and needing to run it out.

    He's OK as a back up, and you need back ups for back ups. But he's not going to be a key player/ best 22 for mine.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-...m_content=link

    Bont in doubt for game vs north, hopefully not too serious.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

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    The things that stamp Khamis's papers each time I see him play are the things you can't really teach through specialisation, or playing forward, ruck, or as an interceptor which in each case he shows positive traits.

    It's about the times he doesn't attack the ball or body when he should, or conceive the pressure he's going to be under if he gets his hands on the footy. There were a couple of glaring examples from last week, one of which resulted in a HTB where he was caught completely unawares, both hands on the footy at waist height instead of the inside (danger side) arm free to fend off, no turn of the body to protect what should have been a single arm carrying the ball.

    If he hasn't learned these elements of craft by now, he never will. And they're super important if you're playing defence and needing to run it out.

    He's OK as a back up, and you need back ups for back ups. But he's not going to be a key player/ best 22 for mine.
    Agreed he's too slow of mind.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Is Jake Lever fast?

    Good positioning, cutting angles and anticipating ball movement can cover a lack of speed pretty easily.
    Weitering isn't quick.
    The slowest FB option in the competition (Sam Collins) is one of the best too. Both of these guys do exactly what your bottom sentence suggests.
    In modern footy and zone defences, getting burnt on the lead is far less common than it used to be.
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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Thinking a couple of weeks ahead, do we accept that we have to play Buku or Buss on McKay or Curnow?

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    Thinking a couple of weeks ahead, do we accept that we have to play Buku or Buss on McKay or Curnow?
    Although still not ideal I would prefer JOD.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe Man View Post
    Although still not ideal I would prefer JOD.
    Oh whoops, yep I forgot JOD. But yeah, he is ideally very much your 3rd defender.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Just on Buss, like others have stated, there are plenty of gun KPDs with limited speed.

    Buss is a bit different to most as he has some clear strengths and weaknesses. Looks like he has a really strong ability to intercept and find the ball, which is massive. He seems like quality with ball in hand for a KPD too. On the other end, he is slow and still raw, easily exposed 1:1.

    IMO confidence is especially important to these types as their strengths are more on the offensive/rebound end of defending. If hesitant/ultra defensive mindset, he will be playing to his weaknesses more than his strengths. I think a bit risk to bring him in but honestly I don't see Buku as anything more than a KPD3 who's main upside in the intercept part. Not like we are getting 1:1 quality from him.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco Jones View Post
    Oh whoops, yep I forgot JOD. But yeah, he is ideally very much your 3rd defender.
    Why is JOD so regularly written off as a KPD? He is still developing but has the complete skill set and the size. Surely he is our future CHB, and with the injuries, our best option now

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Before I Die View Post
    Why is JOD so regularly written off as a KPD? He is still developing but has the complete skill set and the size. Surely he is our future CHB, and with the injuries, our best option now
    I rate JOD highly. More that he is young and also that being a 3rd defender isn’t a bad thing. He offers us the flexibility to play another guy suited to playing on KPFs.

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    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 VS North Melbourne

    Do we just play Truck as the 3rd defender instead of Buku?

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