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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    I don't think you should close this thread G I am enjoying the discussion,both serious and banter.
    Agree it's like when they clean the Yarra and the rubbish is all caught in one small corner.

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzadogs View Post
    Unrelated but I'd like to request Jordon Sweet in the 2023 Rocco Jones Norm Smith Sweep. Thank you.

    In the unlikely event he is unavailable, I will shotgun the best ruck in the grand final (who we will all know that Jordon Sweet would be better than if he was just given a chance). Thank you.
    Danjul gets first dibs on Sweet or Bont. You get the leftover.

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Agree it's like when they clean the Yarra and the rubbish is all caught in one small corner.
    Your new profile pick is dreamy yet offensive to me.
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by EasternWest View Post
    Your new profile pick is dreamy yet offensive to me.
    It's actually a Lippa doll.

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    You take that back.

    This is thread of the year clubhouse leader.
    But is Quantity > Quality > Kwality ?

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
    Tim was pathetic early, enabled Sweet to assert some hit out dominance.

    Sweet did nothing around the ground outside of an early goal. Tim kicked a couple and was more prominent around the ground.

    Disappointed in Tim's start, though strangely he wasn't given the first run at it. In a very cute coaching move they put Darcy into the centre to start the game. I'd have eyeballed Tim and put it on him to dominate Sweet from the start, too clever.
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
    Tim was the better player.
    Sweet was the better midfield cog and helped their mids dominate from the go.

    So considering the position they play. Sweet got the points for mine even though Tim played ok and was one of our best.

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by chef View Post
    Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
    Sweet gave his mids first use when it mattered. The goal he kicked on English in the second was a dagger.

    What English did in the second half was largely irrelevant.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    I'm not sure there was ~$700k difference between them which is a wild guess at their salary difference
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantysghost View Post
    Tim was the better player.
    Sweet was the better midfield cog and helped their mids dominate from the go.

    So considering the position they play. Sweet got the points for mine even though Tim played ok and was one of our best.
    Sweet 42 HO but only 9 to his clubs advantage - but that got them going. Tim only 4 HTA, but good around the ground.

    Also Sweet only 4 Cont Poss, Tim 10
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Sweet 42 HO but only 9 to his clubs advantage - but that got them going. Tim only 4 HTA, but good around the ground.

    Also Sweet only 4 Cont Poss, Tim 10
    English was starched when it mattered so the stats are irrelevant.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    This is why stats are useless to some degree.

    Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

    The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

    I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

    I genuinely do not rate him at all.
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    This is why stats are useless to some degree.

    Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

    The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

    I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

    I genuinely do not rate him at all.
    If we can get a top 10 pick in compo (missing finals) and the salary to chase Barass. Then it’s win-win. If Lobb wants to play he’ll play every game next year with us. And actually compete.

    I can’t make excuses any more. I was happy to keep him at a price. But I’m firm on wanting to see him go and use that movement to rebalance the list.
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    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bulldogs Bite View Post
    This is why stats are useless to some degree.

    Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

    The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

    I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

    I genuinely do not rate him at all.
    When there is a future Supercoach Hall of Fame, English will be the first inductee and legend. He always ends up with huge Supercoach numbers which are almost always in sharp contrast to his lack of actual impact on the game.

    He's a really 'nice' player. I'm wanting an awful lot more than nice for $1m a season for 5-7 years
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