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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
hujsh
So at the oldest they're in the absolute prime of their life, right?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Bont the best Mid in the AFL, Treloar not far behind and getting more disposals than any other player and Libba a stoppage clearance king, averaging more than any other player in AFL, however, they are ageing and another reason why Smith must stay, Sanders fast tracked and guys like Garcia given a go.
Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
I just think we need more rotation through there. The more the merrier. Richards, Garcia, Sanders, West, Gags. Change it up when it is not working.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
hujsh
So at the oldest they're in the absolute prime of their life, right?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Bont the best Mid in the AFL, Treloar not far behind and getting more disposals than any other player and Libba a stoppage clearance king, averaging more than any other player in AFL, however, they are ageing and another reason why Smith must stay, Sanders fast tracked and guys like Garcia given a go.
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
azabob
I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
There is more to a team than just mids. The bottom six players must also contribute, and we have struggled this year because our bottom six have all been players with less than 50 games and still developing.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
azabob
I think hujsh was looking for his own validation and not necessarily validation for our midfielders...
Happy Days probably summed the whole thing up best. As an addendum I'm pretty sure I heard that 80 is the new 60 the other day so if we filter than down 32 is like 24 at most. In other words we should see the best of all 3 in like 5 years or so.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
A team with some champions, not a champion team
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
Mantis
Yep, they're all amazing and we're 11th on the ladder... go figure.
We have the best SuperCoach midfield.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.
1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)
Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.
1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)
Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
So what those rating systems are not flawless.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
PR0408
So what those rating systems are not flawless.
I mean, they're not but they are relatively objective, as much as objective inputs ruin discussion (so get your shit together Scorlibo).
TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
PR0408
So what those rating systems are not flawless.
Normally I would agree stats like this are meaningless but Scoribo tends to have a knack of nailing statistics and which rating systems to use for which argument. A few woof posters have tried to go head to head and have lost.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
azabob
Normally I would agree stats like this are meaningless but Scoribo tends to have a knack of nailing statistics and which rating systems to use for which argument. A few woof posters have tried to go head to head and have lost.
Lucky there's no narcs around who might name them.
TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
Scorlibo
Gallagher is still on track to crack the top 5 for lowest average player rating of all time for players to have played every game in the regular season.
1. Ryan Crowley - 4.15 (2013)
2. Bailey Banfield - 4.27 (2022)
3. Harvey Gallagher - 4.54 (2024)
4. Ryan Crowley - 5.03 (2014)
5. Noah Answerth - 5.12 (2022)
Garcia averages 9.9 and is 9th among Dogs players this year.
The relevant question for me is why someone like Gaggs is rusted in the team and others like Garcia are not.
My guess is turnover game which the coaches rate so highly ergo what he does without the ball. Not sure the ratings points pick up unrewarded acts like positioning and working hard defensively even if not involved directly.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
The relevant question for me is why someone like Gaggs is rusted in the team and others like Garcia are not.
My guess is turnover game which the coaches rate so highly ergo what he does without the ball. Not sure the ratings points pick up unrewarded acts like positioning and working hard defensively even if not involved directly.
I think you answered your own question with the last bit. Definitely not saying Gags should be in every week, but you look at the rest of that list and it's that type of player.
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Re: Garcia v Gallagher
Gags is down on confidence its bloody clear as day, Ive liked him from day one he has AFL attributes but he should have been back in the VFL weeks ago playing mid and developing his craft.
I just hope Garcia signs on, Bevo playing the long game with him I understand but that side we are putting out on the weekend its the worst side we have fielded on paper this year. He should be playing this week.