The Monday Soapbox - R21

[Hotdog60]

Get the next two and Ballarat will be a sell out.

[jeemak]

7:15 pm was an excuse - not a reason, but your concern is a reason.

If people really want to go, they will.

OK so it's a good excuse then. Not all excuses are bad, BAD.

[Happy Days]

It was a great win. Pity no one was there to witness it. "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Nah that was at the G, we lost the one at Marvel (James Harmes legacy game).

[The Doctor]

Watching Hawthorn v GWS in their regular jumpers. What an eyesore.

[DOG GOD]

Watching Hawthorn v GWS in their regular jumpers. What an eyesore.

100% agree Doc…horrendous viewing.

And a personal one for the Monday soapbox….today tested positive for Covid….my 5th time. Sick as a dog.

[comrade]

Watching Hawthorn v GWS in their regular jumpers. What an eyesore.

The Pies & Blues was also a hard watch.

[Grantysghost]

100% agree Doc…horrendous viewing.

And a personal one for the Monday soapbox….today tested positive for Covid….my 5th time. Sick as a dog.

Get well soon DG. It's really a horrible virus.

[chef]

Sorry to bang on about the same thing, but 33,000 to our game Friday is still poor. I know Demons supporters don't come out but surely if we have 60,000 members we can get more to a game. Especially since we are flying at the moment.

We only have around 20k who actually go to games, that 60k figure isn't real people.

[bornadog]

Crowd history versus Melbourne at Docklands.

Take out the post Premiership year and it was our biggest Crowd versus Melbourne in 21 games at the venue. Take out the zero COVID game. Average crowd is 26,168. So the crowd was +27% higher than the average between the teams with Melbourne on a very ordinary run of games.

Crowd Date
33,000 Fri 02-Aug-2024 7:15 PM
26,501 Sat 23-Jul-2022 7:25 PM
Zero Fri 28-May-2021 7:50 PM
26,781 Sun 14-Jul-2019 3:20 PM
28,485 Sat 02-Jun-2018 1:45 PM
33,667 Sun 18-Jun-2017 3:20 PM
27,805 Sun 16-Aug-2015 3:20 PM
24,953 Sun 29-Jun-2014 1:10 PM
22,176 Sun 01-Sep-2013 4:40 PM
29,516 Fri 01-Jul-2011 7:40 PM
27,446 Sun 13-Jul-2008 2:10 PM
18,946 Sat 11-Aug-2007 7:10 PM
24,584 Sun 13-May-2007 2:10 PM
28,478 Sat 08-Apr-2006 2:10 PM
26,307 Sat 02-Apr-2005 2:10 PM
25,107 Sun 18-Jul-2004 2:10 PM
20,714 Fri 01-Aug-2003 7:40 PM
20,790 Sun 13-Apr-2003 2:10 PM
30,789 Fri 26-Apr-2002 7:45 PM
21,146 Sun 02-Sep-2001 2:10 PM
26,180 Sun 28-May-2000 2:10 PM

Membership in same period

2000	18,056
2001	19,085
2002	20,838
2003	21,260
2004	19,295
2005	21,975
2006	26,042
2007	28,725
2008	28,306
2009	28,590
2010	34,842
2011	32,125
2012	30,007
2013	30,204
2014	31,725
2015	35,991
2016	39,459
2017	47,653
2018	43,246
2019	44,373
2020	38,876
2021	46,541
2022	50,941
2023	56,302
2024	59,751

GG and Chef are correct - we have a core group that go each week and that is my beef, because it doesn't happen with other clubs

[bornadog]

100% agree Doc…horrendous viewing.

And a personal one for the Monday soapbox….today tested positive for Covid….my 5th time. Sick as a dog.

FMD not again - hope you are ok.

[EasternWest]

Delete I can't even be bothered.

[Dry Rot]

Has anyone else noticed that the late-season rise of Brisbane and probable premiership favouritism has coincided with the Federal Government raising the national terrorist threat level from possible to probable?

[angelopetraglia]

Crowds have not grown at the same pace as club memberships for any clubs over the last couple of decades. You could draw the same conclusions looking at any club. In the year 2000 for instance, Collingwood only had 28,000 members. They now have well north of 100,000. Collingwood crowds are not four times larger than 2000.

Clubs have got more creative in selling memberships. It highlights more that membership numbers are really not that meaningful anymore.

Richmond and Collingwood both have more than 100,000 members. Have you ever heard of people complaining they can?t get a ticket to a H&A game when they play each other?

How many of Richmond?s 100,000 ?members? turned up when we played them at the MCG this year? Or when they only drew 19K against GWS?

[bornadog]

Delete I can't even be bothered.

It's ok, EW, this is just a whinge thread and a bit of fun, because we know the AFL will never listen to us.

[jeemak]

Crowds have not grown at the same pace as club memberships for any clubs over the last couple of decades. You could draw the same conclusions looking at any club. In the year 2000 for instance, Collingwood only had 28,000 members. They now have well north of 100,000. Collingwood crowds are not four times larger than 2000.

Clubs have got more creative in selling memberships. It highlights more that membership numbers are really not that meaningful anymore.

Richmond and Collingwood both have more than 100,000 members. Have you ever heard of people complaining they can?t get a ticket to a H&A game when they play each other?

How many of Richmond?s 100,000 ?members? turned up when we played them at the MCG this year? Or when they only drew 19K against GWS?

So the clubs have converted casual supporters who are regular attendees to members, and non-attending supporters to members rather than attracting new supporters and making them members and having them attend games. Kinda makes sense.