Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[Sedat]

Not going to take his 20% cut?

If the deal can't get done, 20% of nothing is nothing. I reckon Connors is right to be pissed off.

[bulldogtragic]

If the deal can't get done, 20% of nothing is nothing. I reckon Connors is right to be pissed off.

I’d be royally pissed too. I’m sure he’ll get a good contract from Richmond or North…..

[Sedat]

I’d be royally pissed too. I’m sure he’ll get a good contract from Richmond or North…..

True, but there will be no under-the-table folding stuff without Cotton On involved.

Also Brand Bailey will take a hit if there is some shady stuff that comes to the surface, which obviously reduces his future commercial prospects.

[bulldogtragic]

True, but there will be no under-the-table folding stuff without Cotton On involved.

Also Brand Bailey will take a hit if there is some shady stuff that comes to the surface, which obviously reduces his future commercial prospects.

I’d like to be upset for him, but….

Screw ‘em all.

[Sedat]

I’d like to be upset for him, but….

Screw ‘em all.

I share that sentiment, but Connors has a huge stable and it plays in our favour to stay conciliatory (at least externally) with him and his team - he will be desperate to get the deal done to go to Geelong, and he knows that Smith's dumbass antics on the weekend have helped us potentially achieve a stronger result than otherwise might have been anticipated.

[Grantysghost]

I share that sentiment, but Connors has a huge stable and it plays in our favour to stay conciliatory (at least externally) with him and his team - he will be desperate to get the deal done to go to Geelong, and he knows that Smith's dumbass antics on the weekend have helped us potentially achieve a stronger result than otherwise might have been anticipated.

Mackie doesn't do better result for someone else.
We still have 0 hand I think Sedat and this is just adding to the public embarrassment for Boner Baz the $leazy $emi $mith.
Why, it even make the Cats go it's clear he's a loose unit so we will pay less!

[bulldogtragic]

I share that sentiment, but Connors has a huge stable and it plays in our favour to stay conciliatory (at least externally) with him and his team - he will be desperate to get the deal done to go to Geelong, and he knows that Smith's dumbass antics on the weekend have helped us potentially achieve a stronger result than otherwise might have been anticipated.

I get that, but we’ve done nothing wrong. Even if we go scorched earth he will know it was BS that created it and we are still on the moral high ground too. We don’t need to put his nose out, but his problems with BS are no longer anything to do with us. Thank ****ing Christ too.

[bulldogtragic]

Mackie doesn't do better result for someone else.
We still have 0 hand I think Sedat and this is just adding to the public embarrassment for Boner Baz the $leazy $emi $mith.
Why, it even make the Cats go it's clear he's a loose unit so we will pay less!

Nah I’m with Sedat 100%. Geelong & BS have overplayed their hands. We get what we want or Geelong get nothing and Brand Baz gets embarrassed. It’s a good thing in a perverse way.

[Grantysghost]

Nah I’m with Sedat 100%. Geelong & BS have overplayed their hands. We get what we want or Geelong get nothing and Brand Baz gets embarrassed. It’s a good thing in a perverse way.

It does sound nice

[bulldogtragic]

It does sound nice

We won’t get way overs or anything. But we now get something like a fair deal now. I’m sure BS will say he was just helping us get fair value for him being a non narcissist and all.

[GVGjr]

I share that sentiment, but Connors has a huge stable and it plays in our favour to stay conciliatory (at least externally) with him and his team - he will be desperate to get the deal done to go to Geelong, and he knows that Smith's dumbass antics on the weekend have helped us potentially achieve a stronger result than otherwise might have been anticipated.

We've got a lot of cards to play and I agree it's not in our best interest in sending a scorched earth message with Connors and run the potential of alienating him and his stable. That said, we need to make a few points very clear to him.

1 - We worked as closely with Smith as we could and bent over backwards to accommodate him training away from the club and going overseas for a holiday etc.
2 - We put in a few offers for him to consider and he chose to go somewhere else and that's fine and we wish him well.
3 - With that said, we are bitterly disappointed with images of him sitting with a Geelong group in the preliminary final even allowing he is an ambassador for Cotton On and especially when he hasn't confirmed his preferred destination with us.
4 - We will not accept a significantly unders offer from Geelong or any other club for a trade. We are open to picks this year and next, a pick and a player this year and two picks this year.
5 - We can't be jerked around and engage in a game of brinkmanship with Geelong that delays the deal until the last minute. If this cannot be completed professionally and fairly then we will reluctantly walk him to the draft. An offer of a first round pick this year or next isn't going to get it done.
6 - We would really appreciate the Connors Sports Management team working with Geelong to get this done if that is where he chooses but please understand that the extent of our flexibility is contained in point 4 and there isn't a lot of wiggle room.

[DOG GOD]

The club wouldn’t have the balls to send him to the PSD, so we will end up being bent over with this. Pick 15 which will be like pick 20, and who knows after that.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

When the hujsh attitude towards English and 2nds rucks changed that was when Jeenak took over.

Oh that Jeenak...

[GVGjr]

The club wouldn’t have the balls to send him to the PSD, so we will end up being bent over with this. Pick 15 which will be like pick 20, and who knows after that.

It's certainly not something that has been done too regularly by clubs but I do think most supporters, not all, would be okay with that position if the club felt that it needed to pull the trigger. In this unfair trade period it's really hard to strike the perfect balance because everyone is locked into a mindset of exact draft picks or points but it also doesn't mean any club should 'gift' players to stronger clubs.
Our position on the deal is only limited by our mindset and determination and clearly we should not accept a lopsided deal.
I've said it before but 50 cents in the dollar isn't acceptable in a trade for Bailey Smith given his best football could still be in front of him, but perhaps 80c is something we could live with and is something both clubs could aim for. We should be aiming higher though.

[Happy Days]

I want $1.20 on the dollar or he can go play for Richmond. We’ve already done the heavy lifting of playing without him, we don’t really have anything to be afraid of. Plus it will feel so good while we’re doing it which some of you aren’t considering.