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03-10-2024, 10:29 AM
#1546
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bornadog
That's actually a ridiculous statement.
We improve the team through astute drafting not with rejects from other clubs. If we land a big name player, great, but I am not going to get depressed if we don't.
I don't understand your angst towards players from other clubs. Bramble did well for us after being delisted. At least keep an open mind and judge players on what they can potentially bring us.
The past isn't the future.
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03-10-2024, 10:40 AM
#1547
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
I 100% agree we tend to trade well for the role-player types. I've liked Bramble, Harmes, Baker. I also think our list management and drafting is excellent.
My beef is more watching talent we drafted and developed and rely on walk.
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03-10-2024, 10:58 AM
#1548
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bornadog
That's actually a ridiculous statement.
We improve the team through astute drafting not with rejects from other clubs. If we land a big name player, great, but I am not going to get depressed if we don't.
With what draft picks? We don't even have a first rounder.
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03-10-2024, 10:58 AM
#1549
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
Boots
I 100% agree we tend to trade well for the role-player types. I've liked Bramble, Harmes, Baker. I also think our list management and drafting is excellent.
My beef is more watching talent we drafted and developed and rely on walk.
Outside of Josh Dunkley which player has left and has made the club regret it?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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03-10-2024, 11:00 AM
#1550
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
azabob
Outside of Josh Dunkley which player has left and has made the club regret it?
I don't feel like Smith will be added to that list either.
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03-10-2024, 11:05 AM
#1551
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
azabob
Outside of Josh Dunkley which player has left and has made the club regret it?
Oh I just mean Dunkley and Smith. Not disagreeing with your post above, actually agree with everything you said & it's good context/reminder to stay level. Actually I'm pitching in on the resulting discussion between BaD and GVGjr here rather than building on my own post above.
But to answer your question, this latter comment is less about the club's regret, it's more about the fact we have to rely so heavily on the draft but have two high-profile players we drafted, and who play in positions of need, walk.
Thank heavens for Bont, and Libba, and that of our new crop, Darcy in particular has the family connection. And for Naughton's loyalty, and Marra's (so far, as frustrating a player as he can be). And Richards. And so on and so forth.
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03-10-2024, 11:07 AM
#1552
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
Boots
Oh I just mean Dunkley and Smith. Not disagreeing with your post above, actually agree with everything you said & it's good context/reminder to stay level. Actually I'm pitching in on the resulting discussion between BaD and GVGjr here rather than building on my own post above.
But to answer your question, this latter comment is less about the club's regret, it's more about the fact we have to rely so heavily on the draft but have two high-profile players we drafted, and who play in positions of need, walk.
Thank heavens for Bont, and Libba, and that of our new crop, Darcy in particular has the family connection. And for Naughton's loyalty, and Marra's (so far, as frustrating a player as he can be). And so on and so forth.
Yeah I agree it's an issue where drafted players are wanting to walk as they reach their prime. But we've also kept a good number. Dunkley is definitely the single regret here as I'm not too sure if the club is keen to see the back of Smith.
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03-10-2024, 11:07 AM
#1553
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
with what draft picks? we don't even have a first rounder.
smith
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03-10-2024, 11:09 AM
#1554
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bornadog
smith
You mean via a TRADE of one of our top 10 drafted players?
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03-10-2024, 11:10 AM
#1555
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
Yeah I agree it's an issue where drafted players are wanting to walk as they reach their prime. But we've also kept a good number. Dunkley is definitely the single regret here as I'm not too sure if the club is keen to see the back of Smith.
Fully agree. And I'm on record here as being blindly spiteful about Dunkley, under-playing the hole he left in our midfield, and death-riding his poor performances since 2021 in the vain hope he'd turn out to be less good for Brissie than he was for us.
Problem is, he was every bit as good as he seemed.
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03-10-2024, 11:11 AM
#1556
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
Boots
Fully agree. And I'm on record here as being blindly spiteful about Dunkley, under-playign the hole he left in our midefield, and death-riding his poor performances since 2021 in the vain hope he'd turn out to be less good for Brissie than he was for us.
Problem is, he was every bit as good as he seemed.
I was on record saying I didn't think we'd miss him that much but he's actually exactly what we've missed.
"It's over. It's all over."
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03-10-2024, 11:12 AM
#1557
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
Boots
Fully agree. And I'm on record here as being blindly spiteful about Dunkley, under-playign the hole he left in our midefield, and death-riding his poor performances since 2021 in the vain hope he'd turn out to be less good for Brissie than he was for us.
Problem is, he was every bit as good as he seemed.
Brisbane was perfect for him. They had fast, skilful mids that compensated for his slowness and poor kicking. He can just plod along and do his defensive thing which by the way he is very good at. We helped them out WAY too much.
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03-10-2024, 11:14 AM
#1558
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
EasternWest
I was on record saying I didn't think we'd miss him that much but he's actually exactly what we've missed.
I was on record saying we'd miss him dearly. And our reliance on English is proving me right.
#bringbackourruck
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03-10-2024, 11:14 AM
#1559
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
You mean via a TRADE of one of our top 10 drafted players?
Trade for a pick.
Do you want to blow away, say pick 15 on another player from another club. I would prefer that our first rounders should all be used for a draft pick - unless we were trading for an A grader - highly unlikely.
Of course we can try and trade in a player for needs, but I don't want to use good picks on getting them. It's a risk. Would we be better off with a young drafted players or a Poulter, Harmes, Baker? Yes sometimes it works out - Duryea, Bramble.
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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03-10-2024, 11:15 AM
#1560
Re: Trade Rumours 2024
Originally Posted by
hujsh
BTW the rumor in the cats board is that SDK is possibly part of a trade to get currency. Being mentioned as part of a 3-way trade with Carlton and Melbourne as part of Oliver's move. That would probably get them some extra currency to either give to us or hoard for themselves like the fat dragons they are (not the cool kind.) Like this guy. Fat off of our tax money (the real wefare queens) and free food from local companies
Cal Twomey said yesterday that SDK won't be going anywhere and wants to stay at Geelong. Not sure what's true but Twomey's mail generally seems pretty decent.