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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Yes, but it doesn't feel the same without hearing ads for Robot Building Supplies and Ace Gutters every 5 minutes.
And Spitwater
"Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
azabob
North are offering Caleb Daniel a four year contract according to Mitch Cleary.
Currently he has two more years remaining.
He'd be mad not to take that. He needs to look after himself.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
He'd be mad not to take that. He needs to look after himself.
Yep. And North have to offer up 25 (30 after bids) too.
Win-Win.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
You can't say we don't have a clear plan re. the type of players we're after or that we're not turning over the list (or keeping our vets a year too long).
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
Scraggers
What is Sam Power's record when being bent over on deals? From my recollection he has stood firm and done us good. I can't recall a deal that was well-unders what we were asking for (please correct me if I'm wrong)
If I am correct, I am happy to play hard ball with Bailey Smith and let him walk to the PSD. I would rather get Sweet FA than lose a deal to Geelong. Happy to play real hardball here ... play stupid games, win stupid prizes ... happy to get nothing for him and Richmond get a free hit (like them more than Geelong)
We're running a business no one at the club would cut their noses to spite their faces, and rightfully so!
I wasn't happy with the Dunkley numbers or the Stringer numbers at the time but I was proven wrong on that count.
Yeah the Dunkley one wasn't great nor was the Kelvin Templeton one but luckily a bit before Power's time.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
azabob
North are offering Caleb Daniel a four year contract according to Mitch Cleary.
Currently he has two more years remaining.
This will be a huge test. He seems to love the club, players and coaches but a 4 year deal is compelling.
Most people in his position would ask the club to trade him but Daniel might not.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
This will be a huge test. He seems to love the club, players and coaches but a 4 year deal is compelling.
Most people in his position would ask the club to trade him but Daniel might not.
I wonder how the salary compares (I assume his current contract is good money?), and whether the Dogs would extend his tenure by spreading out his salary. Match the years, reduce our salary burden, get close to what north are offering?
I am also comfortable with him cashing in if north are offering more cash, assuming we get a return that reflects that.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
I wonder how the salary compares (I assume his current contract is good money?), and whether the Dogs would extend his tenure by spreading out his salary. Match the years, reduce our salary burden, get close to what north are offering?
I am also comfortable with him cashing in if north are offering more cash, assuming we get a return that reflects that.
North have some cap room so I'd imagine it could be a lucrative incentive for him.
Lets say he's on 650K with us. They might be offering 2M+ spread over the 4 years.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
azabob
North are offering Caleb Daniel a four year contract according to Mitch Cleary.
Currently he has two more years remaining.
Soooo, that's closer to a first round than a second round pick for him then.
He's contracted, we can afford him and we'll use him. If they want to double his tenure then it's time for them to pay up.
AA, Sutton medalist, still plenty of good years apparently. Late first is the compensation.
TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Yep. And North have to offer up 25 (30 after bids) too.
Win-Win.
25 isn't enough.
If they're willing to offer up four years then it's actually a massive deal. They need to throw in a sweetener.
TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
jeemak
25 isn't enough.
If they're willing to offer up four years then it's actually a massive deal. They need to throw in a sweetener.
Problem 25 is it’s the third pick in the second round. It’s a really good second rounder. Not sure they’d add a F2, unless it was a swap of F2 or swap of F3. If more was demanded and offered maybe their 43 for our 47? Then 47 to Sydney for Parker?
I agree the contract is in the minimum pick 25 range.
It’s definitely getting to the point of not convincing him to stay at this range. He, Jack & Smith is $2M plus the recently savings from Hunter, Schache (lesser) & Dunkley. If we could find players that wanted to play here and take it, that’s be huge.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Again I ask this, how can we expect a high 2nd rounder when we can't even find a place for him in the best 22. They can offer him 10 years, that does not change his value which we completely destroyed in 2024.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Again I ask this, how can we expect a high 2nd rounder when we can't even find a place for him in the best 22. They can offer him 10 years, that does not change his value which we completely destroyed in 2024.
Its not the value to us, its rather the value to them.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
ReLoad
Its not the value to us, its rather the value to them.
This. They really want him and he’s contracted. He’s a great addition for them to put their young guns in the middle and have him at HB. He makes them a much better balanced side and a great leader too. If they want that as they do then 25 (30) is the starting point.
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Re: Bulldog ONLY Trade News
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
Again I ask this, how can we expect a high 2nd rounder when we can't even find a place for him in the best 22. They can offer him 10 years, that does not change his value which we completely destroyed in 2024.
Assuming Macrae heads to the Saints then I'd say Daniel is right back into the 22 because basically they were fighting for the same spot.
Daniel actually meets a lot of the requirements that North are chasing and that's why they have put a 4 year deal in front of him.
They're not just taking on his contract, they're appear to wanting to invest in him for the longer term
Perhaps we have to give a little something back too North to even out the deal but if that trade goes through it's good for both teams.
North get the experience, versatility and great team player that he is and we get a pick in the top 30. Their list is already stacked with draft talent so they are open to bringing in a few players to work with and support those youngsters.
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