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Yesterday, 09:25 PM
#3346
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
azabob
If Smith has to go through the draft it will play havoc with his mental state.
Well we have looked after him all this time and he is walking - no sympathy
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Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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Yesterday, 09:49 PM
#3347
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
OK I googled and read what I believe are the relevant rules in terms of financial nominations for PSD.
Very amateur and probably misinformed view of it but here goes:
- if players are putting price on their head, it must be for a minimum of two years.
- you need to stick to the amount and years unless there's a change in total player payments that could not be 'reasonably anticipated' (Smith agreeing to spread out payments to help side go after a free agent they didn't forecast signing over a year ago).
In effect, off my very limited knowledge, I predict Bailey Smith nominates two year contract, say $1-1.1m for year one and $1.3m for year two. After a year, they change the contract citing something that couldn't be 'reasonably anticipated' 12 months in advance. AFL will accept it and they will rework contract to 5 additional years and the balance of what he was was going to be paid anyway.
If I have it right, I think biggest issue Cats will end up with is needing to rework something like $300k for next season's TPP (assume they have that space if chasing Oliver).
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Yesterday, 09:57 PM
#3348
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
OK I googled and read what I believe are the relevant rules in terms of financial nominations for PSD.
Very amateur and probably misinformed view of it but here goes:
- if players are putting price on their head, it must be for a minimum of two years.
- you need to stick to the amount and years unless there's a change in total player payments that could not be 'reasonably anticipated' (Smith agreeing to spread out payments to help side go after a free agent they didn't forecast signing over a year ago).
In effect, off my very limited knowledge, I predict Bailey Smith nominates two year contract, say $1m for year one and $1.3m for year two. After a year, they change the contract citing something that couldn't be 'reasonably anticipated' 12 months in advance. AFL will accept it and they will rework contract to 5 additional years and the balance of what he was was going to be paid anyway.
If I have it right, I think biggest issue Cats will end up with is needing to rework something like $200k or so from their TPP for next season.
I don't think you need to worry about justifying a change in the contract. Just sign an extension for 3 years at 600k (assuming his overall deal is meant to be 5*800k that would be 2.2m+1.8m) and tweak other players contracts to fit. Smith even gets his money earlier.
My understanding is it works the same for the ND too. You set a price but the length is 2 years
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Yesterday, 10:00 PM
#3349
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I don't think you need to worry about justifying a change in the contract. Just sign an extension for 3 years at 600k (assuming his overall deal is meant to be 5*800k that would be 2.2m+1.8m) and tweak other players contracts to fit. Smith even gets his money earlier.
My understanding is it works the same for the ND too. You set a price but the length is 2 years
Yep, only issue is Cats need to rework TPP over two years. Want a price that's too big for clubs to swoop in.
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Yesterday, 10:05 PM
#3350
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
FWIW I think we end up accepting something like what is currently pick 17 + 38 from Cats for Smith + 48.
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Yesterday, 10:44 PM
#3351
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
Rocco Jones
FWIW I think we end up accepting something like what is currently pick 17 + 38 from Cats for Smith + 48.
And watch the melts on socials.
Dogs are in a tough spot here. Very hard to spin anything in this period as a win.
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Yesterday, 11:02 PM
#3352
Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
And watch the melts on socials.
Dogs are in a tough spot here. Very hard to spin anything in this period as a win.
We lost when we let him get out of contract.
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Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
We lost when we let him get out of contract.
Bang on. That is 2 we have let run down and both times we have been in a difficult position.
We really need another club to come in and compete.