Tom Barrass

[GVGjr]

Its going to be fascinating to watch how it plays out with Barrass in terms of what the Hawks pay

West Coast will rightly ask for the world so the Hawks will have to do some maneuvering to make it happen.

[bulldogtragic]

In limbo. Reports Hawks had enough of WCE demands and just did the deal with Carlton.

Do we make another phone call or leave it?

[bulldogtragic]

For argument sake the deal WCE were slow walking was 14 and F2 for TB & F3 - 14 for Baker with Richmond happy

Say WCE won’t trade now. Say we get 17 & F1 for BS & F2

We can offer 17 and Geelong’s F1 for WCE F2 - 17 for Baker

WCE get two firsts (one drops into the 20’s and the other is an upgrade, but still two firsts) - We turn BS into Barrass & upgrade our second rounder…

Probably a better offer than the Hawks. If we were deadly serious about TB and if his only way out now is us?

[Go_Dogs]

Was happy enough to pass on him, but if it meant stuffing over the Hawks I’m for it.

[bornadog]

Explanation on X when I asked why did Hawks do this:

Because it basically created a bonus 2nd rounder out of thin air.
Even if Carlton win the premiership we still win the trade on points. If Carlton finish 4th or lower its a free second rounder.

We can now trade f1, f2(calton), f3(hawthorn) to Eagles for f3 and barras.

That's the exact same trade we already proposed (14 + f2 for barras and f3) but now there an extra f2 in there to satisfy westcoast while giving them more leverage to go for warner)
If barras deal falls through we have 2 r1s and 2 r2s next year to make something happen

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I'm still not getting it. Will wait for BT.

[bulldogtragic]

That’s a generous interpretation from X. That assumes that all works for WCE & Richmond with Baker. It will be genius or stupidity. Right now I’m not sure it’s the latter.

[bulldogtragic]

I'm still not getting it. Will wait for BT.

Sounds like a hawks fan trying to justify maybe missing their big fish.

[hujsh]

Explanation on X when I asked why did Hawks do this:

Because it basically created a bonus 2nd rounder out of thin air.
Even if Carlton win the premiership we still win the trade on points. If Carlton finish 4th or lower its a free second rounder.

We can now trade f1, f2(calton), f3(hawthorn) to Eagles for f3 and barras.

That's the exact same trade we already proposed (14 + f2 for barras and f3) but now there an extra f2 in there to satisfy westcoast while giving them more leverage to go for warner)
If barras deal falls through we have 2 r1s and 2 r2s next year to make something happen

So, they aren't adding the extra f2? Just keeping their own now?

Not sure their supposition that it satisfies WC works either. A f1 means a lot more and is less likely to be compromised than a f2. They wanted two F1s and were prepared to add a f2 to act as a pick downgrade (likely one of the best 2nd round picks in the draft) and I doubt that position changes

[bulldogtragic]

So, they aren't adding the extra f2? Just keeping their own now?

Not sure their supposition that it satisfies WC works either. A f1 means a lot more and is less likely to be compromised than a f2. They wanted two F1s and were prepared to add a f2 to act as a pick downgrade (likely one of the best 2nd round picks in the draft) and I doubt that position changes

Absolutely. I’d give them 17 & F1 (Geel) for Barrass & F2 right now. Hawks a little cute for a bloke under contract.