Booing Adam Goodes.

[whythelongface]

Re: Booing Adam Goodes.

No idea, didn't watch the game. I am assuming that Jetta was booed in response to his gesture. The booing of Goodes immediately post his dance a few rounds back would have intensified as it was a combination of the clearly racist boo brigade and the more spontaneous reaction from people caught up in the moment.

Goodes didn't incite the crowd in any way to cop the treatment that he received. The treatment he is receiving is widespread based on him standing up for his beliefs; his people and having the courage to stand up to those who treat people, no matter the colour of their skin or their ancestry, with disrespect. There is no reason for crowds to boo him like they do. What they are saying is we don't like you making a stand for your beliefs we want you to comply with how we think you should behave, after all you are a mere footballer and this is not the place for such matters.

What he has done is bring to the fore the racist element in our society. It is now a mainstream issue again with commentators from both sides of the divide putting their case forward on what they perceive is the right behaviour. The AFL has reacted and needs to do something about it. It is also up to us, as supporter,s to not tolerate this type of behaviour against a decent human being (whether you like him or not).

[The bulldog tragician]

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Jordan Roughead was just on 774 about this issue and putting it in the context of our 'Be loud, be fair' campaign. Spoke well. One humorous moment, he was asked if he'd ever been booed on a footy field and he claimed he doesn't get the ball enough for it to be an issue!

[Scraggers]

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I pre-empt this comment with with my previous comments regarding my work and social history ... Please read that comment before reading this one (Page 7)

When the Essendon supporters were booing Paddy Ryder (a proud Noongar man) on the weekend, no one said it was race related. It was obvious that it was directed at him because he left Essendon to play for Port. The fact that everyone knew why Paddy was being booed took racism out of the picture. The reason media are saying the booing of Goodes is race related is because they have no other plausible reasons to attribute to it. When Reiwodlt was constantly being booed by the Melbourne supporters on the weekend, no discussion of racism, yet no real reason to boo him (other than the fact he is a tool).

The Race card is pulled way too quickly ... I boo people because they are knobs, I boo bad umpiring decisions, I boo bad sportsmanship on the field. I will not stop booing a person because of their race. This would be racism in reverse. I don't boo Nick Natinui, I don't boo Ahmed Saad, I don't boo Bacha Houli ... Not because it's racist to do it, but because they are not knobs.

The worst comment I have heard over all of this was Paul Roos last night ... He said if Goodes thinks the booing is racist, then it is racist ... Hogwash !!!

[AndrewP6]

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I've had my say on this thread, so I won't go on too much but I do find it fascinating that many seem to be able to read minds, and ascribe their own meaning to why the booing occurs. This, without being able to accept that people are free to make their own minds up and express themselves as they see fit.

[jeemak]

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I don't see why it has to be booing specifically for one reason, or another. Why can't it be for numerous reasons, of which race could be one?

[Murphy'sLore]

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Martin Flanagan put it well today when he likened the booing of Goodes to 'a rope with many strands.'

[Ghost Dog]

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http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/06/18/adam-goodes-still-getting-booed-might-ok/

[Ghost Dog]

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I don't boo Bacha Houli ... Not because it's racist to do it, but because they are not knobs.

The worst comment I have heard over all of this was Paul Roos last night ... He said if Goodes thinks the booing is racist, then it is racist ... Hogwash !!!

I reckon the Tiger army has that one covered.

Cutting insight there from Mr Roos, but don't quit your day job. Better focus on the inside of the basket-case footy club in which you find yourself, fella.

[jeemak]

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This is the attitude Goodes is speaking out against. How many in the crowd are either too smart to say something like this, or how many in the crowd who are stupid enough to say something like this aren't dobbed in by those accepting of casual racism?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/west-coast-eagles-fan-ejected-over-allegedly-racist-comment-says-it-was-banter-20150728-gim3m7.html

[The Pie Man]

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I hesitate to reference SEN callers, but I've heard more than once in the past week people call in saying 'race has nothing to do with it' and 'because he's a divisive figure off the field' in the same explanation.....

Can't wait to not hear about this anymore

[Happy Days]

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I think that both a racial element and the group theory argument has some merit to it for explaining the actual boos (there's no way that there are that many [overt] racists at the football), but not the reaction to them.

Call it white guilt or whatever, but there is nothing that a standard middle Australian can't stand more than being accused of being racist. The phrase "I'm not racist but" is uttered almost unilaterally before even saying the word "aboriginal" for a reason. That a racial element has been attributed to such a large group of people who are acting in an unconscious racially (at least somewhat) motivated way is what is inspiring the rabid defensiveness heard across the media. "He's a flog", "He dives", "He incited me with an imaginary spear", and "How dare he be offended by racist comments from a 13 year old" are not reasons for booing, they are explanations from angry and confused people determined to prove that they aren't racist. It's the #notallmen of race relations.

Gerard Whately summed it up perfectly when he said that even if you don't boo for racist reasons, the fact that there is an obvious attributable racial element to the booing makes it cut and dry.

I really feel for Adam, and too can't wait until this is all over.

[Sedat]

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Call it white guilt or whatever, but there is nothing that a standard middle Australian can't stand more than being accused of being racist. The phrase "I'm not racist but" is uttered almost unilaterally before even saying the word "aboriginal" for a reason.

[GVGjr]

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Jordan Roughead was just on 774 about this issue and putting it in the context of our 'Be loud, be fair' campaign. Spoke well. One humorous moment, he was asked if he'd ever been booed on a footy field and he claimed he doesn't get the ball enough for it to be an issue!

Our club should be commended for their "Be loud, be fair" campaign. All clubs should follow our lead.

The booing of Adam Goodes has gone to a level where is just flat out bullying and while I doubt many will stop there is a lesson the AFL could learn from the way other codes manage poor conduct from their fans and that is to fine the club or deduct points from them.

I'm not sure the whole booing of Adam Goodes is racially motivated but it's a poor reflection on society that so many people do it without a valid reason. If they are booing him for something that happened months ago then it's time to move on.

[Rocco Jones]

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Goodes booing thing is so easy. People boo him for 3 reasons:

1- because he is dives and other does annoying things on footy field.
2- because he is a minority who stands up for his race/ isn't just a good minority member and cops whatever, short version... they are being racist.
3- because they are sheep.

Even if you have a 'good' reason to boo Goodes, it's a bizarre call to wanna join in with sheep and racists. Also, booing is a really, really weird for an adult to do.

[Twodogs]

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Goodes booing thing is so easy. People boo him for 3 reasons:

1- because he is dives and other does annoying things on footy field.
2- because he is a minority who stands up for his race/ isn't just a good minority member and cops whatever, short version... they are being racist.
3- because they are sheep.

Even if you have a 'good' reason to boo Goodes, it's a bizarre call to wanna join in with sheep and racists. Also, booing is a really, really weird for an adult to do.

Good post. I've never liked the guy but I'm sure not going to bother booing him. Certainly not if I'm going to look like a redneck.

And you're right it is a really weird thing for an adult to do.