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Re: Booing Adam Goodes.
I notice some of the dog whistlers are all over Twitter sphere.
The same ones who want the right to boo, but are critical of support Goodes is getting
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Re: Booing Adam Goodes.
Freedom of speech .. What about freedom of booing ?
Same thing if he can have freedom of speech why can't we have freedom to boo ?
It works both ways doesn't it ?
I could say I feel he made a racist comment I'm English and he called me an invader.
Or is it the old story it's only racist if its against certain races ?
Or the minority ?
Isn't it being racist him calling whites invaders ?
If I take offence to it it makes it racist Doesn't it?
Personally I see a problem when we have two flags that's separatism for a start,
I would drop the Union Jack and drop
In the aboriginal flag , therefore making it a single flag that refers to all Australians.
Why do we differentuate Australian and aboriginal .. Should be called just Australian.
Why when I fill
Out surveys does it say are you a Torres Strait islander ? Isn't that racist ?Bring back the biffComment
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Rem I find some of the bandwagon jumpers just as disturbing as I find the booers. Where were these people in May? Where are these people under normal circumstances, since irrespective of what's happening to Adam Goodes right now the plight of our indigenous people is measurably becoming worse and worse as the days go by?
I'm really concerned about this episode becoming a festival of slacktivism of Get Kony proportions, where once Adam Goodes returns to the field without boo's we all feel better about ourselves in having quashed racism.
Now that the AFL and major media outlets are jumping on board I become more and more convinced any positive resolution is just another attempt to stage manage a papering over the cracks short term resolution to a problem that has now become a commercial one.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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We should drop the English flag, I agree .
I'm Irish , where's our flag?
They were invaded, murdered, raped .
Hmm wonder why it's called invasion day ?
Didn't get the right to vote until the 60's , yet they fought for our country?
We won't talk about a certain famine will we?Comment
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Yes Ledge, you're the victim.
Colonialism was horrible and people all over the world suffered because of it. I'm no history expert but I believe the only reason it wasn't called an invasion is because Europeans didn't recognition the rights of people who they didn't consider civilized. But what else do you call traveling to another country attacking the people living there and claiming the land as your own?
And the fact we do differentiate between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people makes it harder to ignore the facts like how much higher the incarceration rate is for native Australians.
As for the actual speech Goodes made this clip gives it a bit more perspective
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Wherever and whenever colonised people have attempted to assert their rights there has been a backlash against them by those who want to maintain the status quo or deny the impact of colonialism on those who were on the receiving end of it. Thus in the States we had 'the uppity nigger' and in Australia the urban aboriginal 'stirrer' causing trouble by sowing discontent in the aboriginal community.
I remember an old boy, long since dead, who was born to English parents in India. He was a young man when India won its independence in 1947. He left in 1949 because in his words the Indians has started to become 'cheeky'. It struck me as a strange adjective to use but actually it is perfectly apt for a man, who feels he is racially superior, to apply that term to the behaviour of those he feels to be his inferiors.
I speculate that some of those who boo Adam Goodes do so precisely because he won't stay in the box they have allotted aboriginal people. Others boo because those around them are booing. But we are all responsible for our actions. The booing of Adam Goodes is not a reflection of the sort of Australia we can be proud of; nor is the continual disadvantage suffered by aboriginal people on just about every measure of social well being that has been applied to our Australian community.
With respect I would suggest that many who boo Adam Goodes either have poor memories, or no memories at all simply because they have no knowledge whatsoever of the history of aboriginal Australia over the last 227 years. It was not until 1967 that it was required to include aborigines in the census and that the Commonwealth Government acquired the power to make laws on behalf of aborigines.
The first international Australian sporting team was composed entirely of aboriginal cricketers, mainly from the Edenhope region of Victoria. They toured England in 1868 and acquitted themselves very well winning as many games as they lost. They had only been playing cricket for a few years. The talent was obviously there; we have to ask ourselves - why wasn't it nurtured?
A similar case could be made for football. Apart from Sir Douglas Nicholls (Fitzroy 1930s) and Norm MacDonald (?? Essendon 1940s) there were no others until Charlie Stewart (Footscray 1961) Polly Farmer (Geelong 1960s) Bertie Johnson (North 1960s), Syd Jackson (Carlton 1970s), Barry Cable (late 70s) and then the Krakeour brothers and Robert Muir in the 80s. In the last 25 years we've seen an explosion in the number of great aboriginal players, yet, I believe, they have ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
So why didn't more of them make their mark earlier on? Answer - lack of opportunity. Remember it was not until after WW2 that Government policy towards aborigines changed. Prior to that, and according to the prevailing Social Darwinist beliefs, it was thought that aborigines were a 'dying race' and in the words of leading historian H.L. Crawford the best that could be done for them was 'to smooth the dying pillow.' What an indictment of the treatment of the powerless by the powerful.
Who remembers the Nancy Young case? An aboriginal woman dragged before the courts charged with the death of her infant. Living in squalid conditions in a camp on the outskirts of a town in western NSW the child died of gastro-enteritis. Was Nancy Young the only person responsible? Who remembers the first program to demonstrate the power of current affairs television? ABCs Four Corners expose of the living conditions of aborigines at Box Ridge near Kempsey. Sadly a similar program could be made today.
There are a lot of aboriginal people working hard to uplift their communities. Adam Goodes is one of them. He deserves our support.Last edited by westdog54; 02-08-2015, 01:24 AM.[URL="http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau"]http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau[/URL]
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Can you try and work some paragraphs into that please Merantau? That solid slab of writing is a bit impenetrable.They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.Comment
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Thanks merantau, the first half of that was good reading.
I didn't read the second half because I became nauseas. I can't wait for you to edit it and turn it into paragraphs so I can read the rest.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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American Indian / white man would be exactly the same as it is here I imagine.
Are they going through the same scenario ?
I'm not racist I treat everyone individually but I find it quite puzzling at times , we want to cut out racism but the person claiming it seems to be fuelling the fire.
I think last might at the scg was amazing all The crowd were brilliant in showing support for him, That could be an argument for the booing wasn't racist at all.
I hope Adam comes out and recognised what the crowd did for him
Yesterday .. That would go a long way to stopping it.Bring back the biffComment
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As with a lot of things the USA is a fair way in front of us.The curse is dead.Comment
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