Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

[GVGjr]

If the Bali stuff is true, the club really need to take some responsibility for playing Marra in the Elim final and accept how that undermines all values they set around professionalism, integrity of selection etc, etc. It takes years to build that level of trust in a program.
Hopefully, they have put their hand up and made that a theme for the pre-season, if not, those cracks will start to appear in the 2025 season.

A few levels at the club made the wrong call leading into the elimination final regarding Marra's selection and we paid a price for our poor decisions.
While I agree it makes a mockery of the selection integrity we are probably all kidding ourselves if we don't understand there are multiple layers in terms of how rules and standards are applied to players.

[azabob]

I don’t think Marra will play in 2025.

I found it interesting that the club somewhat conceded publicly that Marra off field professionalism isn’t where it needs to be.

[Grantysghost]

Maybe time to shut this thread down. Not sure it's helping in any way.

[bulldogtragic]

Maybe time to shut this thread down. Not sure it's helping in any way.

A discussion forum, calming discussing the second biggest topic impacting the club (after Crossley) needs to shut down?

What’s the point of this forum
existing then?

Didnt we need to not discuss BS last year too?

[Grantysghost]

A discussion forum, calming discussing the second biggest topic impacting the club (after Crossley) needs to shut down?

What’s the point of this forum
existing then?

Didnt we need to not discuss BS last year too?

If you feel comfortable speculating about a young man's health have at it.
I don't.
What do you expect to get from any further discussion? I think it's all been said.

Whatever makes you feel comfortable about yourself though I guess is what's important.

[bulldogtragic]

If you feel comfortable speculating about a young man's health have at it.
I don't.
What do you expect to get from any further discussion? I think it's all been said.

Whatever makes you feel comfortable about yourself though I guess is what's important.

That’s cheap, bullshit. Be better.

[jeemak]

Nets.

[Grantysghost]

That’s cheap, bullshit. Be better.

Clearly hit the mark and you know it.

I'm going to have to leave woof for a bit as this Marra talk is getting pretty awful.

Gaz i think this thread should be closed.

[bulldogtragic]

Clearly hit the mark and you know it.

I'm going to have to leave woof for a bit as this Marra talk is getting pretty awful.

Enjoy your time away.

[bulldogtragic]

So you send me a PM saying you’re upset with my recent posts. I can’t see any posts in 1.5 weeks. The most recent posts didn’t speculate about him in any way.

feel free to repost these offending messages where I am speculating about his health or even disrespecting him or wishing anything but him to get health, happy and playing footy eventually again,

I get you don’t like the topic, but I don’t know what I’ve done to get your attention. But you’ve got mine now. So please, let me know publicly what I’ve said or done with receipts and either apologise or show me these recent posts I can’t see and know nothing about and then I will apologise.

No need for any more private messages.

[Dogs 24/7]

When I started this thread I can put my hand on my heart and say the only aim was to address the many rumors floating around and try and have a mature and reasonable discussion.
Until today I do believe the conversations have in the main stuck to that mature and reasonable level.
With Sam Powers comments today painting a non too positive short term outlook for Jamarra I've asked Gary to consider closing the thread or maybe even replacing it.
I know his affected both 1EyeDog and GrantyGhost and I do apologise for that. It was never my intention.

[Jeanette54]

Ok so I'll out myself a bit without being a wanker

I know Marra.

I've had dinners with him and I love the guy.

He probably would walk past me in the street, but I love him and my first moment with him was an event where I spent the night with his parents (my wife knows Alice marras mum).
His mum took photos of us, I teased him that id watch his moustache grow it was that level.

Over the years I've had the great privilege of spending time with Marra and he's an amazingly lovely person. Always; I mean always gives me a hug when we meet.

So this is painful.

Fk footy this is a young man who's going through something maybe none of us can understand.

So, I don't get the need for this thread. It's just going to be negative and he deserves better.

If a player obviously put in no effort on match day (for whatever reason) would that not be a fair topic of discussion on this site? On a pure performance level he is just not delivering, albeit in the pre-season. Now there is more than likely a good reason for this, however it should be no surprise that its up for discussion on this site.

[Grantysghost]

If a player obviously put in no effort on match day (for whatever reason) would that not be a fair topic of discussion on this site? On a pure performance level he is just not delivering, albeit in the pre-season. Now there is more than likely a good reason for this, however it should be no surprise that its up for discussion on this site.

What exactly do you want to discuss?

I mean you've just said Marra didn't put in any effort on "match day"

Maybe be bold enough to say which match.

He was our leading goal kicker last season so I need some clarification. Or are you here just to lay the boots in for some unknown reason.

[bulldogtragic]

If a player obviously put in no effort on match day (for whatever reason) would that not be a fair topic of discussion on this site? On a pure performance level he is just not delivering, albeit in the pre-season. Now there is more than likely a good reason for this, however it should be no surprise that it’s Iup for discussion on this site.

This is the point. It’s a discussion forum. I think we should be able to discuss a star player while respecting him without exception. Everyone wants him healthy, happy and when ready playing footy. It’s what we all wanted for passed players that went through various battles like Tom Boyd did. But we can discuss it, be respectful and call out posts which are highly speculative and not in the spirit of this community. Discussion also allows us to defend him from the BS media that will eventually come and to show support for him. I don’t think banning a topic of discussion is the answer here. In fact, if posters crossed the line about him I’d have no hesitation in calling that out. It’s a slippery slope banning speech when this forum has shown for nearly 20 years it can respectfully discussed difficult and nuanced issues. No one here wants anything but the best for him and I want the opportunity to offer full throated support and also defence if/when needed should the media start to get tabloid about Marra. But I can’t do that is discussing him is banned.

i think it’s a better policy to make clear there are multiple posters with close personal ties. Which is clear. I think also if anyone is upset at a comment then play the post and not the poster. Make people explain what they mean and offer a defence/support/rebuttal of why they made a comment. But banning topics or swiping posters such as myself who has been refraining from the topic out of respect (who mentioned banning wasn’t the way to go) doesn’t achieve anything.

[Jeanette54]

What exactly do you want to discuss?

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Well, at the moment we are discussing as to whether this is a suitable topic for discussion, a point you raised in your post.