Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

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  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8845

    Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

    Originally posted by bornadog
    A win is a win, at least were winning.
    There was not one win last year that did not come without significant patches of poor performance. The win loss masked over a lot of issues. My worry is that nothing in the off season has addressed our most pressing issues.

    Our list this year is not as good as last year's. That is a problem as last year's was underwhelming.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15164

      Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

      Transported back to the B-Mac years.. *!*!*!*!ing disgusting.

      Had all pre-season to work on our game plan and we serve up that tripe... thought we’d kick 8 goals , but only got 7.. I suck!

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18202

        Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

        Originally posted by bornadog
        A win is a win, at least were winning.
        Yes it is a results driven game. We keep winning and will go places. Doesn't matter by how much although always good to win by more.
        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65536

          Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

          Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
          There was not one win last year that did not come without significant patches of poor performance. The win loss masked over a lot of issues. My worry is that nothing in the off season has addressed our most pressing issues.

          Our list this year is not as good as last year's. That is a problem as last year's was underwhelming.
          I really don't want to argue last year, my point is a win on the board is a win - you can pick holes in lots of wins

          However, I am not prepared to throw the baby with the bath water. Bevo is an exceptional person and coach. I agree the Wood experiment is not working, but appaude him for trying something different.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14444

            Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I really don't want to argue last year, my point is a win on the board is a win - you can pick holes in lots of wins

            However, I am not prepared to throw the baby with the bath water. Bevo is an exceptional person and coach. I agree the Wood experiment is not working, but appaude him for trying something different.
            Why try something different first up?

            You would think playing to your strengths would be the best way to start tge season, if things arent working then you should try something different.
            The curse is dead.

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            • always right
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 4189

              Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

              I don’t wish to plead poor but here is a difference between the top clubs like Geelong and ours.

              Libba comes back from a season ending injury and does his ACL.....again. We’re told he’s unlucky and there are millimetres in the incident. Selwood twists his knee in an incident but looks like he has been lucky to escape too anything serious......maybe a medial injury at worst. Footy gods at their worst. Apparently Selwood is tough.......suggesting he is tougher than Libba.
              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65536

                Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                Originally posted by chef
                Why try something different first up?

                You would think playing to your strengths would be the best way to start tge season, if things arent working then you should try something different.
                We didn't kick enough goals last year in matches. I don't agree with it but at least we are trying to do something about a deficiency.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65536

                  Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                  Originally posted by always right
                  I don’t to plead poor but here is the difference between the top clubs like Geelong and ours.

                  Libba comes back from a season ending injury and does his ACL.....again. We’re told he’s unlucky and there are millimetres in the incident. Selwood twists his knee in an incident but looks like he has been lucky to escape too anything serious......maybe a medial injury at worst. Footy gods at their worst. Apparently Selwood is tough.......suggesting he is tougher than Libba.
                  An ACL is so unlucky - feel so sorry for Libba after the great preseason he has had.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14444

                    Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    We didn't kick enough goals last year in matches. I don't agree with it but at least we are trying to do something about a deficiency.
                    Its madness. Our best 2 KPD are missing but will still throw Wood forward, Bevo is getting a bit carried away.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65536

                      Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                      Originally posted by chef
                      Its madness. Our best 2 KPD are missing but will still throw Wood forward, Bevo is getting a bit carried away.
                      Redpath suspension, Boyd and Schache under done. We put in English and Trengove to alternate up forward.

                      Wood forward didn't lose us the game.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6376

                        Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                        Originally posted by chef
                        Its madness. Our best 2 KPD are missing but will still throw Wood forward, Bevo is getting a bit carried away.
                        Yes, if we had an oversupply of similar types, and an experienced backline - then sure try one of the athletic defenders forward.
                        But with Morris and Adams out - and having lost Boyd and Murphy to retirement - Wood hasn’t never been needing MORE in defence.

                        In any case, nothing about Wood suggests to me that he could make it as a forward. He doesn’t have that forward nous. He does have pace - but its a straight-line, track athletics type of style - not a change-of-direction agility type of quickness that good forwards have.

                        And although he has that leap - using it as a forward and as a defender are two different things. As we saw today - where GWS defenders put a body on him, took his run - and he never really had an opportunity to leap at the footy.

                        We don’t have time for this pet project to happen in the season.

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14444

                          Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Redpath suspension, Boyd and Schache under done. We put in English and Trengove to alternate up forward.

                          Wood forward didn't lose us the game.
                          Nope, we lost the game because we didnt show up. Carrying on last seasons form which is a huge worry, Bevo needs to get them up.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14444

                            Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                            Originally posted by Ozza
                            Yes, if we had an oversupply of similar types, and an experienced backline - then sure try one of the athletic defenders forward.
                            But with Morris and Adams out - and having lost Boyd and Murphy to retirement - Wood hasn’t never been needing MORE in defence.

                            In any case, nothing about Wood suggests to me that he could make it as a forward. He doesn’t have that forward nous. He does have pace - but its a straight-line, track athletics type of style - not a change-of-direction agility type of quickness that good forwards have.

                            And although he has that leap - using it as a forward and as a defender are two different things. As we saw today - where GWS defenders put a body on him, took his run - and he never really had an opportunity to leap at the footy.

                            We don’t have time for this pet project to happen in the season.
                            Yep. It makes no sense at all.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13117

                              Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                              Originally posted by always right
                              Mark my words......the worst thing to come out of today is the injury to Libba......it just completely saps the spirit of the club. What do we now build from?

                              We still have a lot of youth/quality to come back from injury I’m optimistic about. Unfortunately this was the round where things combined to produce the result it did. I actually expected it.

                              Unlike others......and certainly the commentators......GWS are apparently the new elite. I’m not convinced. I think they’re front runners and over rated and they beat a team well down on firepower.

                              What I am mostly concerned about is our general lack of pace, the falloff in form from Wood since 2016, the continued injury run from Adams.
                              No. We find our men of mayhem again. See GWS today under pressure, folded like a deck of cards. But we only applied it for 5 mins Wallis for Libba and we need some venom up forward.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11041

                                Re: Game Day Round 1, 2018 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs at UNSW Canberra Oval

                                Originally posted by Ozza
                                In any case, nothing about Wood suggests to me that he could make it as a forward. He doesn’t have that forward nous. He does have pace - but its a straight-line, track athletics type of style - not a change-of-direction agility type of quickness that good forwards have.

                                And although he has that leap - using it as a forward and as a defender are two different things. As we saw today - where GWS defenders put a body on him, took his run - and he never really had an opportunity to leap at the footy.
                                Agree completely that the move of Wood forward is a bizarre one, and makes no sense in light of our defensive personnel issues at the moment. But any player who rates their talent and ability would embrace a new challenge head-on, and Wood was absolutely pathetic today. A skinny beanpole and mid-sized first-gamer did far more to keep the GWS defenders honest than Wood did today.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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