Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

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  • Jasper
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 1238

    #76
    Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

    Agree we are a good chance this year, no finals played in April.

    Interesting to see two weeks out of three Hall has made high contact. This weeks it cost a goal in a low scoring game. Is Hall ok??
    Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10048

      #77
      Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

      Originally posted by Kelvinator
      Interesting to see two weeks out of three Hall has made high contact. This weeks it cost a goal in a low scoring game. Is Hall ok??
      It's got to be becoming a concern.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #78
        Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

        Originally posted by bornadog
        I know people are going to think I have gone mad, but the effort and the intensity last night was the best in all 6 games
        Agree. The tackling and pressure applied was unbelievable in the first half. The first quarter we just came out with the intensity we haven't seen yet this year.

        Also believe it will help us in the short term to get back on our feet, but you gotta feel kind of vulnerable playing Melbourne next week after a loss like that though.

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #79
          Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

          Originally posted by Kelvinator
          Agree we are a good chance this year, no finals played in April.

          Interesting to see two weeks out of three Hall has made high contact. This weeks it cost a goal in a low scoring game. Is Hall ok??
          There is no doubt that Hall gets marked differently to other players.

          Where are all the Riewoldt defenders? Hall was getting bumped off the ball far more heavily than the pissy little tap Riewoldt almost died over.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #80
            Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

            I think personally the coaching staff is to blame..
            We had alot of momentum, but kicked the ball backwards which was frustrating for everyone!
            No risks were taken all night, and the only reason why StKilda won the match, was because they were prepared to take risks in the last 5 minutes.
            That gameplan was so soccer-like it isnt even funny.
            Possession football sucks, it achieves nothing if you lose, like last night..

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15150

              #81
              Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

              Originally posted by B-RadBulldog
              I think personally the coaching staff is to blame..
              We had alot of momentum, but kicked the ball backwards which was frustrating for everyone!
              No risks were taken all night
              , and the only reason why StKilda won the match, was because they were prepared to take risks in the last 5 minutes.
              That gameplan was so soccer-like it isnt even funny.
              Possession football sucks, it achieves nothing if you lose, like last night..
              Isn't it up to the individual to determine where the kick goes?

              I know for a fact that the coaching staff were disappointed with our use of the ball especially in the 2nd & 3rd quarters when we went into our shells.

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              • Doc26
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2009
                • 3087

                #82
                Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Isn't it up to the individual to determine where the kick goes?
                To a point but also depends on what's expected of them after instruction. They were obviously trying to stick tight to a game plan by switching back and forth to stretch out the Saints zone to create an opening. Can lead to overuse when trying to setup that 'perfect' option which simply may not come. Assuming our forward line is appropriately structured and functioning we should at times ease up a little on the risk with more emphasis on the reward.


                I know for a fact that the coaching staff were disappointed with our use of the ball especially in the 2nd & 3rd quarters when we went into our shells.
                They weren't alone. Also in the last quarter where they didn't take the Saints on.
                Last edited by Doc26; 01-05-2010, 05:41 PM.

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15150

                  #83
                  Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                  Originally posted by Doc26
                  To a point but also depends on what's expected of them after instruction.
                  Instructions weren't to go backwards in the 2nd & 3rd quarters when we dominated general play.

                  Originally posted by Doc26
                  They weren't alone. Also in the last quarter where they didn't take the Saints on.
                  We were rooted in the last qtr.

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                  • alwaysadog
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1435

                    #84
                    Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Isn't it up to the individual to determine where the kick goes?

                    I know for a fact that the coaching staff were disappointed with our use of the ball especially in the 2nd & 3rd quarters when we went into our shells.
                    When an experienced team, not just one individual but the whole team can't find the way to follow instructions, it sounds like a case of being outcoached.

                    That's OK as long as Rocket doesn't tell himself the rubbish he tells the media and does something about it, because it's getting to be a regular occurrence.
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Isn't it up to the individual to determine where the kick goes?
                      True, but when it happens for 5 minutes without any benefit, it really makes you question the coaching staff and gameplan, aswell as the point of that gameplan itself! Since it didnt even get us the win in the end..

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                      • AndrewP6
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8142

                        #86
                        Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                        Originally posted by Kelvinator
                        Agree we are a good chance this year, no finals played in April.

                        Interesting to see two weeks out of three Hall has made high contact. This weeks it cost a goal in a low scoring game. Is Hall ok??
                        Hall has to put up with a lot from defenders, to me it's only human that he occasionally slips up. He gets held, pushed, elbowed etc, and unlike other high-profile players, gets nothing....So long as it's giving away a free and not belting the bejesus out of them, I can live with it. I'd prefer the free not to be given as we are preparing to kick for goal though...
                        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #87
                          Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          There is no doubt that Hall gets marked differently to other players.

                          Where are all the Riewoldt defenders? Hall was getting bumped off the ball far more heavily than the pissy little tap Riewoldt almost died over.
                          Yes, what he said....
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65435

                            #88
                            Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            There is no doubt that Hall gets marked differently to other players.

                            Where are all the Riewoldt defenders? Hall was getting bumped off the ball far more heavily than the pissy little tap Riewoldt almost died over.
                            and the little tap that Kosi got and fell to the ground in the first qrt.
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65435

                              #89
                              Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                              Originally posted by alwaysadog
                              When an experienced team, not just one individual but the whole team can't find the way to follow instructions, it sounds like a case of being outcoached.

                              That's OK as long as Rocket doesn't tell himself the rubbish he tells the media and does something about it, because it's getting to be a regular occurrence.
                              Originally posted by B-RadBulldog
                              I think personally the coaching staff is to blame..
                              We had alot of momentum, but kicked the ball backwards which was frustrating for everyone!
                              No risks were taken all night, and the only reason why StKilda won the match, was because they were prepared to take risks in the last 5 minutes.
                              That gameplan was so soccer-like it isnt even funny.
                              Possession football sucks, it achieves nothing if you lose, like last night..
                              Well look at it another way. The players followed the game plan, got the ball into the forward 50, but couldn't kick goals.

                              Lets see........... Hall, Gia, Grant, Hahn, Murphy, Gilbee and can't remember the others. How can the coach be blamed for players not being able to kick straight.
                              FFC: Established 1883

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: Game Day - R6 Western Bulldogs vs St Kilda

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Well look at it another way. The players followed the game plan, got the ball into the forward 50, but couldn't kick goals.

                                Lets see........... Hall, Gia, Grant, Hahn, Murphy, Gilbee and can't remember the others. How can the coach be blamed for players not being able to kick straight.
                                He can be blamed though for the lack of scoring shots..

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