2025 List Management Thread

[NAUGHTY100]

Lets say if English was 100% fit now do you think the club would still be interested in Crossley?

I dont think so i think the clubs idea was to add Brew to our list as cover for Libba , because he is the closest thing we have on our list to Libba . Brew will be terribly unlucky if he misses out on a spot .

[Mofra]

I dont think so i think the clubs idea was to add Brew to our list as cover for Libba , because he is the closest thing we have on our list to Libba . Brew will be terribly unlucky if he misses out on a spot .

I feel like Sanders & Kennedy are first choices as Libba cover, as much as Brew is more defensive than either of them.

[NAUGHTY100]

I feel like Sanders & Kennedy are first choices as Libba cover, as much as Brew is more defensive than either of them.

Agree but only because both Sanders and Kennedy have done the job at AFL level , Brew is an un known player at that level , but his VFL credentials are very impressive Liston winner, Premiership captain , and arguably the best inside mid in the VFL last year .

[jazzadogs]

I wonder if the surprisingly good progress of our five draftees impacted Brew's chances? I know that only Luke Kennedy plays a similar role, but all five of them are on the smaller side and have shown some really good form at stages in pre season.

Did the draftees process make us feel we had more coverage in the small-medium range, and that it was talls (particularly ruck) that was lacking?

[GVGjr]

I wonder if the surprisingly good progress of our five draftees impacted Brew's chances? I know that only Luke Kennedy plays a similar role, but all five of them are on the smaller side and have shown some really good form at stages in pre season.

Did the draftees process make us feel we had more coverage in the small-medium range, and that it was talls (particularly ruck) that was lacking?

I don't think they're quite factoring into it at the moment as other than Davidson I don't think the others are genuinely in the mix for the early stages.
Brew covers Libba and Treloar
Crossely for English and Gardner
That's basically what it comes down to.

[jazzadogs]

I don't think they're quite factoring into it at the moment as other than Davidson I don't think the others are genuinely in the mix for the early stages.
Brew covers Libba and Treloar
Crossely for English and Gardner
That's basically what it comes down to.

But Kennedy, Sanders, Garcia, West, Harmes can also cover Libba and Treloar, with others (including possibly/likely the draftees as the season progresses) backfilling their roles.

I wasn't trying to say that Jaques is going to replace Treloar at CBs in round one, but I think we have more confidence that if we were to have injuries later in the season we will have depth.

Compared to last year, we have added depth of five small-medium players and indefinitely lost one tall. I do think Brew's chances have been harmed by the strong performances of the draftees, and Crossley have improved because of Marra's absence.

[Axe Man]

WHY FIRST-ROUND PICKS ARE WAITING ON NEW DEALS

Harley Reid and Tasmania’s dynamic duo of Colby McKercher and Ryley Sanders will wait until later in the season to consider contract extensions as clubs and managers try to quantify the huge pay rises first-round picks will secure in their fourth seasons.

The national draft class of 2023 is the first group of first-round selections to sign mandatory three-year deals instead of two-year contracts.

It means many will be playing for cut-price rates in their third seasons – around $250,000 plus match payments – instead of the guaranteed $500,000 a year many first-round picks secured in their first contract extension for their third and fourth years.

The likes of McKercher, Nick Watson, Darcy Wilson, Nate Caddy and Sanders might require fourth-year deals of $700,000-plus before they sign on long-term.

Reid is in a different realm, with industry sources believing West Coast would need to offer $1.5 million-$2 million for him to sign a deal for his fourth season in 2028.

Melbourne’s Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup and Gold Coast’s Ethan Read are among the handful of 2023 first-round picks to already sign contract extensions past 2026.

But Reid is happy to wait as he assesses the club’s direction under new coach Andrew McQualter.

Despite a summer with its share of injury concerns he is open-minded about his future at the Eagles.

His partner Yasmin Duursma, a Carlton AFLW player, has been living in Perth with Reid since completing the most recent AFLW season but will at some stage this year return to Victoria to start pre-season.

It has helped him enjoy his time in Perth, with no rush for him to decide if he signs a multi-year deal or plays out his initial contract before a big call on trying to return home.

With rivals likely to offer $20 million, 10 year deals for Reid it makes sense for him to take his time, with West Coast not pushing him on a new contract.

To secure maximum contract leverage North Melbourne’s McKercher and Western Bulldog Sanders would sign one-year extensions to the end of 2027, when Tasmania enters the competition.

Both the Roos and Dogs could extend McKercher and Sanders soon if they were prepared to offer one-year extensions.

Instead they are prepared to wait until deeper into their three-year deals before hopefully signing the star midfielders on deals past Tasmania’s first season.

Hawthorn’s Nick Watson will be a player to watch this year given his vast marketability and upside that will factor into any contract discussions this year.

[Axe Man]

INJURY WON’T DETER VETERAN DOG DEAL

Liam Jones will have enough time to prove he is worthy of a 2026 contract ahead of mid-season discussions in June despite his horribly timed hamstring injury.

Jones will miss 8-10 weeks, which will put him out of at least the first round of the AFL season as his three-year contract expires.

Acting football boss Sam Power and Jones’ manager Shane Casley had agreed to postpone any contract talks until mid-season only days before his hamstring setback in an intraclub clash in Queensland.

He is about to turn 34 later this month but with 39 games in his past two seasons since returning to the Dogs from Carlton he has been a colossus in defence.

Something would have to go badly wrong for him not to be offered at the Dogs for 2026, with Casley adamant he will play on in the AFL next year.

[jazzadogs]

WHY FIRST-ROUND PICKS ARE WAITING ON NEW DEALS

Harley Reid and Tasmania’s dynamic duo of Colby McKercher and Ryley Sanders will wait until later in the season to consider contract extensions as clubs and managers try to quantify the huge pay rises first-round picks will secure in their fourth seasons.

The national draft class of 2023 is the first group of first-round selections to sign mandatory three-year deals instead of two-year contracts.

It means many will be playing for cut-price rates in their third seasons – around $250,000 plus match payments – instead of the guaranteed $500,000 a year many first-round picks secured in their first contract extension for their third and fourth years.

The likes of McKercher, Nick Watson, Darcy Wilson, Nate Caddy and Sanders might require fourth-year deals of $700,000-plus before they sign on long-term.

Reid is in a different realm, with industry sources believing West Coast would need to offer $1.5 million-$2 million for him to sign a deal for his fourth season in 2028.

Melbourne’s Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup and Gold Coast’s Ethan Read are among the handful of 2023 first-round picks to already sign contract extensions past 2026.

But Reid is happy to wait as he assesses the club’s direction under new coach Andrew McQualter.

Despite a summer with its share of injury concerns he is open-minded about his future at the Eagles.

His partner Yasmin Duursma, a Carlton AFLW player, has been living in Perth with Reid since completing the most recent AFLW season but will at some stage this year return to Victoria to start pre-season.

It has helped him enjoy his time in Perth, with no rush for him to decide if he signs a multi-year deal or plays out his initial contract before a big call on trying to return home.

With rivals likely to offer $20 million, 10 year deals for Reid it makes sense for him to take his time, with West Coast not pushing him on a new contract.

To secure maximum contract leverage North Melbourne’s McKercher and Western Bulldog Sanders would sign one-year extensions to the end of 2027, when Tasmania enters the competition.

Both the Roos and Dogs could extend McKercher and Sanders soon if they were prepared to offer one-year extensions.

Instead they are prepared to wait until deeper into their three-year deals before hopefully signing the star midfielders on deals past Tasmania’s first season.

Hawthorn’s Nick Watson will be a player to watch this year given his vast marketability and upside that will factor into any contract discussions this year.

Reid $1.5million in his fourth season? Bloody hell.

Sanders 750k? What? I'll give him 750k per year if he signs for five years, not for a one year deal.

[Mofra]

Reid $1.5million in his fourth season? Bloody hell.

Sanders 750k? What? I'll give him 750k per year if he signs for five years, not for a one year deal.

Reid lives on the back page of the West Australian. It would be a PR disaster if Reid leaves West Coast. He has a black cheque and they have a truckload of cap.

If TdK is worth up to $1.7m power year (!) to the Saints, Reid can get $1.5m + a healthy chunk of the Eagles' marketing budget too l.

[jazzadogs]

Reid lives on the back page of the West Australian. It would be a PR disaster if Reid leaves West Coast. He has a black cheque and they have a truckload of cap.

If TdK is worth up to $1.7m power year (!) to the Saints, Reid can get $1.5m + a healthy chunk of the Eagles' marketing budget too l.

Oh yeh I'm not really arguing that's what they will have to pay him to keep him - just that it's a crazy amount for a young guy. I guess in another two years when that contract is getting signed he could be a proven AFL star, but it's still a lot even with the salary cap increases!

[Mofra]

Oh yeh I'm not really arguing that's what they will have to pay him to keep him - just that it's a crazy amount for a young guy. I guess in another two years when that contract is getting signed he could be a proven AFL star, but it's still a lot even with the salary cap increases!

And if Oscar Allen walks, I think Reid could easily demand more

[azabob]

Reid lives on the back page of the West Australian. It would be a PR disaster if Reid leaves West Coast. He has a black cheque and they have a truckload of cap.

If TdK is worth up to $1.7m power year (!) to the Saints, Reid can get $1.5m + a healthy chunk of the Eagles' marketing budget too l.

If Harley Reid leaves the eagles for $1.5m over ten years - that would be great work by the footy club.

[Rusty12]

The purpose of this is not to be toxic. However, lists are turned over every year.

The Dogs have a very thin tail.

The following list of players, I doubt there are more than 1 or 2 still on the list in 2 years.

TRELOR - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Injury will determine if that is 1 or 3

BUSS - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut or traded

BAKER - End of his current deal, cut.

DURYEA - Final Year, Jaques in that role, probably before 2025 is out.

COFFIELD- End of his current deal, cut.

O'DONNEL - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut

LIBBA - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Concussion or knee degeneration will impact how long.

HARMES - End of his current deal, cut.

VANDEMEER - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

KHAMIS - End of his current deal, cut.

POULTER - End of his current deal, cut.

SCOTT - End of his current deal, cut.

MCNEIL - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

A JONES - End of his current deal, cut.

CLEARY End of his current deal, cut.

GARICA -Traded

JJ - End of his current deal, cut.

SMITH - End of his current deal, cut.

GARDNER - End of his current deal, cut.

[hujsh]